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#1 bryadelm Oct 29, 2008 07:35 PM

United Hobbies EDF Ducted Fan Unit 7 Blade 5 inch 127mm
 
Has anyone installed the United Hobbies EDF Ducted Fan Unit 7 Blade 5 inch 127mm, along with United Hobbies - KB45-08XL 1600kv Brushless Inrunner (or equivalent), and TURNIGY Sentilon100A HV 2-12S Speed Controller (or CC 110 HV)?

Did you get the calculated (see http://www.s4a.ch/eflight/fancalc_e.htm) 7-9 lbs of thrust, substituting a DS-75 and Neu Motor 1515 1.5Y for UH EDF 5 inch and UH1600kv Brushless Inrunner, using 2 x 6S 3700 Lipo's?

#2 jjantti Oct 30, 2008 04:12 AM

Sentilon is know to work with EDF- abuse. Go for it.
But UH/HC/HK doesn't have any motor for that big fan. kv you suggested is way too high. It needs to be somewhat third of that. ;)
see here: older disscussion about the fan and motors
/Jyri

#3 Scarey Oct 30, 2008 08:01 AM

That fan is a Amp hog. Lots of high pitched blades. You will need a large low Kv motor ran on 9S + to get 9+ Lbs static and keep your Amps < 100.

A good motor (inrunner) that weighs around 600 gms will do it. But it will be hard to find an inexpesive one (Neu makes them but there not cheap).

#4 Scarey Oct 30, 2008 08:53 AM

Read this thread same type of fan
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935467

You can get more thrust out of a Midifan Pro with greater efflux (top end speed) Read this

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846287

#5 bryadelm Oct 30, 2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjantti
...But UH/HC/HK doesn't have any motor for that big fan. kv you suggested is way too high. It needs to be somewhat third of that. ;)
see here: older disscussion about the fan and motors
/Jyri

Thanks, I will search for a lower Kv motor to use with this fan.

#6 bryadelm Oct 30, 2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarey
Read this thread same type of fan
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935467

You can get more thrust out of a Midifan Pro with greater efflux (top end speed) Read this

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846287


Unsure of where the first of two above threads is leading yet... Second one is for 90 mm fan, while I need shroud outer diameter to be 133 mm (E-Turbax) for 5 in/127 mm inside diameter.

#7 Scarey Oct 30, 2008 08:42 PM

All I was saying is that this fan by design is an Amp hound. For a needed amount of thrust 9Lbs can be easily achieved with a 90mm Midifan and your jet would be lighter and much faster and cheaper. But if you can`t or don`t want to re-work the ducting then so be it.

#8 bruff Oct 30, 2008 09:10 PM

I have installed a Hacker A50-14S outrunner in one the great results. It was pulling 62 AMPs at 22500 RPM about 8 lbs of thrust on a 10S LiPo pack.
Bob

#9 bryadelm Nov 01, 2008 06:08 PM

I found test data to answer my questions at:http://myhobbycity.com/showthread.php?t=351

#10 bryadelm Nov 03, 2008 06:42 PM

On Saturday, I met with Danny, who has experience with installing two EDF's on a Nitromodels Honda Jet (posted here at RCG), at my AMA club field (VFSS). He will be working with me on bench testing out 5 inch fan/motor/ESC/bat combo's this Fall prior to us installing it in my BAE Hawk and Dannys' Nitromodels Formost 160. Thus, we will also obtain our own test data here.

#11 CarreraGTSCS Nov 06, 2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruff
I have installed a Hacker A50-14S outrunner in one the great results. It was pulling 62 AMPs at 22500 RPM about 8 lbs of thrust on a 10S LiPo pack.
Bob

Bob-- Is it the Midifan or some other fan that you're referring to here?

Thanks,
Mike


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