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#1 typicalaimster Oct 29, 2008 09:55 AM

The AMA and FPV...Supplement Code 550
 
Today the AMA has officially released its stance on FPV. This wouldn't of been possible without the countless efforts of our community. Many thanks to the RCG folks, The AMA and members of the EC that made it happen.

Yesterday I updated our US Guidelines for FPV in preparation. These guidelines include use of FPV craft at AMA fields. The AMA has narrowed it down to 4 of their own guidelines. This can be found as Supplement Code 550. You can find all the codes in PDF format on the AMA's web page.

This information is new and word trickles down slowly. I'd highly suggest working with your safety coordinator at your local AMA field regarding FPV. The new code will allow FPV at AMA fields, however 'No Fly Zone' restrictions may apply at certain fields. Usually these restrictions are due to a lease agreement stating where activity at the field will happen. Once again work with your fields safety officer!

During this trial period of these new rules FPV will be under the microscope. Keep this in mind and be on your best behavior when flying FPV at AMA fields. This trial period can, and probably will, be observed by the AMA, FAA and ARC committee! Once data has been collected on the safety and impact of FPV at AMA fields we can revisit the rules, and revise them, in the future.


FLIGHTS AT AMA SANCTIONED AIRFIELDS

Preface: Some AMA fields are located within congested or populated areas. Furthermore these sites may have contractual agreements with land owners restricting activity within a limited flight zone. These areas do not have the space requirements for FPV flying and should not be used. The AMA model aircraft Safety Code will apply at all times!

Quote:

1. An FPV-equipped model must be flown by two AMA members utilizing a buddy-box system. The pilot in command must be on the primary transmitter, maintain visual contact, and be prepared to assume control in the event of a problem
2. The operational range of the model is limited to the pilot in commandís visual line of sight as defined in the Official AMA Safety Code (see Radio Control, item 10).
3. The flight path of model operations shall be limited to the designated flying site and approved overfly area.
4. The model weight and speed shall be limited to a maximum of 10 pounds and 60 miles per hour.
Always keep in mind:
Flying FPV at a AMA field is a privilege and not a right! Please do not get into arguments regarding FPV at AMA fields. Arguing if you can fly FPV will only give FPV'ers a bad name!

So there you have it folks. That being said.. Who's wants to host the first FPV fun fly?

#2 mdw21 Oct 29, 2008 10:20 AM

THANKYOU all involved.

#3 airmcn_3 Oct 29, 2008 12:18 PM

Very cool!

Great work!

#4 wyldryce Oct 29, 2008 12:39 PM

Wow. I never ever would have believed that this all could be accomplished inside the space of a single year, which it primarily has. Fantastic work everyone! :)

It's more restrictive than I would like in a few respects (ie: how does one utilize a headtracking device if the transmitter has a buddy box plugged into the trainer port?) but its an amazing opportunity to get our foot in the door. :p

Once again, thanks for all the hard work.

-ross

#5 AnthonyRC Oct 29, 2008 12:48 PM

This is great news!. I guess the 60mph limit rules out the FPV Funjets though :-)

Just a note on the headtracker/buddy setup, the TrackR2 does allow the 'bridging' of a master and student Tx, to support this configuration. The pan/tilt channels are mixed into the signal from the student box before being passed to the trainer.

#6 mdw21 Oct 29, 2008 01:00 PM

This is great news!. I guess the 60mph limit rules out the FPV Funjets though :-)


1/2 throttle ?

#7 typicalaimster Oct 29, 2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyRC
Just a note on the headtracker/buddy setup, the TrackR2 does allow the 'bridging' of a master and student Tx, to support this configuration. The pan/tilt channels are mixed into the signal from the student box before being passed to the trainer.

Plus doesn't the TrackR1-DIY version have this feature? I believe I read it in the manual for setting things up. I haven't tried it yet, but I might make a cable for it.

#8 PeteSchug Oct 29, 2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdw21
This is great news!. I guess the 60mph limit rules out the FPV Funjets though :-)


1/2 throttle ?

I think this is largely unenforceable except for blatant violations. Sixty mph is pretty fast for an easy star, though I am sure there are a few that can go sixty straight up. I'll have to clock mine one of these days. Maybe we can borrow the town's radar for an hour or so and see just how fast (or slow) these things go.

I bought a twister, still in the box. I guess I am not flying it FPV unless I do so slope soaring!

As Anthony points out, head tracking is still possible.

What I would like at this point is some really good goggles. I have yet to find goggles that are good under normal sunlit flying conditions. I can record pretty good video, but the ground looks black in my goggles.

Hmm... If I can resurrect my Eyetops I wonder if I can fly without the buddy box? I can follow the plane with one eye and glance at the Eyetops when needed, or visa versa. I only used them once, and hated them, but they have more adjustment than anything I've gotten my hands on since. I've been thinking of sawing them up and fitting the eyepiece to some cheap sunglasses, centered just below my right eye.

Pete

#9 Blaze.45 Oct 29, 2008 01:38 PM

Awesome job guys. Thanks!

-Chris

#10 sokiii Oct 29, 2008 01:50 PM

Great news!
I don't like buddy box rule, but maybe I want too much now.
60mph rule is hard to control and is "artificial" for me. But idea of black-white-black color FPV police planes with light bar flying over the AMA field and bumping other planes for speeding looks interesting for me.

#11 typicalaimster Oct 29, 2008 01:54 PM

Well once again the Buddy Box rule is a small compromise for a HUGE leap forward. Yes it'll be a small inconvenience. Once we have a established safe track record we can revisit the buddy box rule.

#12 sokiii Oct 29, 2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by typicalaimster
Well once again the Buddy Box rule is a small compromise for a HUGE leap forward.

I agree.

#13 tychoc Oct 29, 2008 02:21 PM

Congratulations to all that made this happen. Also, I'm impressed that AMA moved so quickly on his issue and actually did listen to this section of the hobby. I definitely will renew my AMA membership now.

thanks again,

-tychoc

#14 Blaze.45 Oct 29, 2008 03:27 PM

I think I will submit for my Park Flyer Membership now, maybe upgrade if I find a decent club.

-Chris

#15 goliathman Oct 29, 2008 09:07 PM

Congratulations for a job well done!


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