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#1 Randall Miller May 28, 2001 05:05 PM

Does anyone know anything about Jack Stafford kits?
 
My latest ingenious plot is to convert the Jack Stafford 90" b-24 Liberator to electric. This is one nice looking plane as seen here; http:www.cbpu.com/jackstafford/B-24.htm

Unlike the Royal B-17, there's no wood blocks or engine cowls to carve out. And it's BIG! I'm getting no response to this same question about this Stafford B-24 Liberator elsewhere, so can anyone tell me perhaps about the Jack Stafford line of models in general? Ie: Is it quality made scale stuff that's worth the bucks, and time spent?

#2 DaveW May 28, 2001 10:52 PM

Hi,
I had a friend in San Jose, Ca who built one of the B24's He is a very competent modeler and it took him forever to build, he was still working on it when I left the area.
Just a very complicated model I guess.

Beautiful model but a lot of work, throttle linkages and fuel tank capacity were real problems to Ted.

FYI, Dave

#3 Randall Miller May 28, 2001 11:12 PM

Hmmmm, the only other reply I've received so far is "don't do it! It's an old builders kit with old bell-crank technology from the 60's. My friend started it and gave up".

Do I see a pattern of warning flags coming up here?

Appreciate your help. -Randall

#4 Paul Susbauer May 28, 2001 11:16 PM

The Jack Stafford kits have been around for years, and the people I've talked to loved the kits (Especially the Ercoupe) There was a review of the B-24 a few years back in Scale RC Modeler. The October 1996 issue, in fact, I'm holding it right now. The reviewer liked the kit but made a few changes.

The Reviewer did away with the fowler flaps, and made split flaps, and omitted the bay doors and retractable belly turret.

He used Century Jet Retracts as they make a set specifically for the Lib.

If you want the article, I'll copy it or send the whole magazine to you.

#5 CaptQuirk May 29, 2001 07:47 AM

I have a Jack Stafford Rearwin Speedster kit on the shelf for my next "winter project".

The plans and materials are top notch but it is definately a builders kit. There is little to none of the interlocking box technology of modern kits, just lots of formers, stringers and longerons that need to be measured and positioned carefully. If you are looking for something to go together fast this isn't it.

If you are willing to take the time and work carefully you could turn out a very scale airplane that looks and flies great.

Quirky

#6 Randall Miller May 30, 2001 02:21 PM

Gentlemen, I appreciate your replies. Finally getting some scattered info, over the webs. Took a couple of days. General consensus is that they are good detailed kits, but like the Royal Kits, you really got to want to build em. If one wants a rather different electric(and a BIG one), it's worth considering.

RC_Eflyer I'll EMail you.

#7 dave_lilley May 30, 2001 02:44 PM

http://www.cbpu.com/jackstafford/images/lg_b-24.jpg
www.cbpu.com/jackstafford/B-24.htm

#8 dave_lilley May 30, 2001 02:48 PM

It may be a builders kit, but I had to post the pic. That is one sweet looking boxcar.

#9 _HypnoToad_ Feb 28, 2009 11:15 PM

man this thread is old!



lol

#10 Art Schmitz Mar 01, 2009 08:04 AM

Back in the 60's I built the EAA Acrosport and the 72" Piper Commanche, with a stabilator,flaps, and pneumatic retracts. Nice flying plane..VERY scale !
The EAA Acrosport looked good , didn't fly that well. ( Probably my fault, first bipe )
The kits were well thought out and the wood and f.g. work was excellent.

#11 eddiebeardsley Mar 01, 2009 11:56 AM

When I lived in southern California back in the 60s, 70s 80s I knew Jack Stafford well. I judged him in scale at the 78 Nationals at March Air Force base. and was involved in F1 racing. What a great craftman he was and a wonderful man. he would help anyone on the spot. I have built many of his models, Ercoup, B-24, piper Commanche, single and twin models, Midget mustang a F1 racing model. there is a guy in South Carolina who still makes his models and some of Joe Bridi's scale models on is the Areo Commander twin. I will try and find his address. his name is Paul and his company is kittyhawk models. I will see if he has a web page and get back to you guys. One of my friends converted a single pipercommanch to electric a few years ago. It flew great. I have a picture of his model.

#12 eddiebeardsley Mar 12, 2009 09:56 AM

Informaio on The Jack Stafford kits. here is a address of where to find out about the kit line.


Kitty Hawk models
2657 E Country RD
250 N
Paoli, Indiana
47454

His name is Paul Clements

#13 E-Challenged Mar 12, 2009 11:49 AM

Take a look at WowPlanes foam bomber models. Foam and molded plastic construction, fair amount of spackling, sealing and finishing needed for very scale-like models. Intro kit price on 60" B-25 is $99. There is a build thread on Scale Electric Planes forum, go to the end to see some nicely finished examples. These appear state of the art for electric power , fly very well and are light for their size. Kieth Sparks collaborated in producing these kits. Judge for yourself.

http://www.wowplanes.com/

#14 dave rave Jul 20, 2010 01:34 AM

Cool ads in rcm, man ..his mustang had a groovy Miss America paint scheme.
I bet it flys well, I will soon have a kit won on e. Lets just see what's in a Jack Stafford Kit


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