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#1 Sleedo Sep 09, 2007 06:20 AM

Windrider Fox
Has anyone seen the news on the EPP Fox that Ming from Windrider has been developing? I came across this post while browsing the scale forum: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=34
There's a video of the prototype earlier in the same thread.

I have been eager to see the progess on this plane since Ming first mentioned that he was working on a prototype. His planes fly great and are affordable. I know I will buy a Fox once they come out. How long do you think it will take before we see a Predator Fox? ;)

#2 mr_editor Sep 09, 2007 07:02 AM

Hubba Hubba!

#3 Windknot Sep 09, 2007 08:07 AM

I did ask Ming about this a while ago, and he said the project had been shelved- projected sales didn't warrant the expense, or words to that effect.

#4 The Predator Sep 09, 2007 09:34 AM

I begged too!!!! Same result. It does look SWEET though!

#5 Sleedo Sep 09, 2007 10:42 AM

it appears that he's had a change of heart. have you read this post?


Originally Posted by Ming
1.6m Epp Foam Fox Glider at Hong Kong Wa Shan (3 min 56 sec) (3 min 56 sec)

Flight test on prototype is success.
Will start the tooling ASAP.

Here's the link to the post: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=30

#6 Windknot Sep 09, 2007 03:44 PM

I'll definitely order one when it becomes available!

#7 The Predator Sep 10, 2007 11:26 AM

Omg, How Sweet!!!!!!!!

#8 raptor22 Sep 10, 2007 11:49 AM

Very cool! Tons of wing flex in that vid, though. I'm sure Karl will find a way to fix that ;)

#9 Daemon Sep 10, 2007 12:34 PM

I just want Ming to put a fast airfoil on it. We'll do the rest in terms
of making it super rigid.


#10 A10FLYR Sep 10, 2007 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Daemon
We'll do the rest in terms
of making it super rigid.


How? I have 4 ribbon spars and 1/4" X 1/2" balsa drag spar in the RockSlide, (EPP Kulbutin/MadSlide), and I'm totaly dissapointed. I'm considering bagging 1/64th ply from the high point back to the drag spar and Goop/Kevlar from high point forward.

Dean, who needs help getting rigid.....;)

PS. I may need my vacubaging stuff back if you're finished with it......

#11 Daemon Sep 10, 2007 01:21 PM

Won't know until we get one in hand. Perhaps use a router bit and
straight edge, and route in the proper depth groove, top and bottom
and use thicker rectangular carbon stock instead of ribbons.
I also think the molded EPP Ming uses is probably more rigid than
the cut EPP you used for your plane.

But my point was, I don't care what else is in the kit, as long as Ming
puts a fast airfoil on it. We don't need a fox shaped Easy Pro,
which has a very floaty, slow airfoil. What we want are fast
molded EPP gliders. If they need to be made stiffer, we'll find
a way to make them stiffer.

I can get the bagging gear back to you if you need it. Unfortunately that
pump just doesn't pull enough vacuum to pull the skins down on any
of the wings that I set out to repair (XP3 wing with folded delam, XP4 wing
with folded delam, bagged 2M Extreme wing with folded delam etc..).
At full vacuum, there's still voids between skin and foam.
Andrew said he's got a more serious pump I can borrow, but I didn't hear
about it until the trip to Kansas weekend before last.


#12 The Predator Sep 10, 2007 03:56 PM

I've got a few ideas and should be getting a proto soon! I'll keep you all posted. I've been thinking ALOT about new spar systems, new types of spar matrial as presented by the Canuck and I THINK I have a VERY simple and elegante idea for this guy! Tough stiff and fairly easy to do! with minimal work but a dremal or router is KEY. As it is, a double ribbon spar should be good for front side acro but, I plan on taking it WAY farther then that!!!

#13 A10FLYR Sep 10, 2007 04:14 PM

I'll meet you guys on the hill to discuss this more now back to regular programing. Sorry for the hijack.

I want a new Fox as well.

PS. ...Ian, I may have a pump for you but it will need some modification. (Old refridgadator servicing device).

#14 Sleedo Sep 13, 2007 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ming
I aim to launch the Fox on 15th of Oct.



#15 MattyB Sep 13, 2007 12:12 PM

Hmmmm.... I'd like to see it in decent lift. Looks kinda like it's designed for light conditions to me with a relatively slow airfoil - not sure it'll be a viable candidate for turning into a speedster, even if extensively carbonised. I guess I just prefer the 4m glass variety - not really a fair comparison though! :D

4m Fox at Ivinghoe v2 (2 min 39 sec)

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