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#1 gtstubbs Oct 06, 2006 04:20 PM

Too much, too little or just right
 
6 years, too much, too little or just right ?



Quote:


Boy Gets 6 Years in School Shooting Plot
By Associated Press
11:45 AM PDT, October 6, 2006

CAMDEN, N.J. -- A 15-year-old boy prosecutors described as the masterminded of a failed plot to shoot up a suburban school was sentenced Friday to six years in prison.

Judge David G. Eynon scolded Edwin DeLeon over the threats made last April.

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"There are a lot of people who are very lucky you didn't get your hands on weapons," Eynon said, noting recent deadly school shootings, including one in nearby Lancaster County, Pa.

DeLeon and three other teens pleaded guilty in the scheme to shoot students and teachers. Authorities said they planned to open fire at Winslow Township High School in Camden County, where DeLeon and two of the others were students.

Despite attempts, the teens failed to get a gun before school officials heard about the plans and the boys were arrested.

DeLeon apologized in court, telling the judge, "I regret ever thinking of this idea. I didn't mean for it to get out of hand like it did."

One other boy, Peter Cunningham, was sentenced to five years in prison. Penalties for the other two boys are being handled in juvenile court.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...tion-headlines

#2 Arbo Oct 06, 2006 04:51 PM

man! I thought this was gonna be about a 'lovely pair of coconuts' with pictures or something.... damn

#3 Viper Pilot Oct 06, 2006 04:54 PM

Sounds about right. No gun was involved, although it can be consideed terrorism.

#4 Ledbetter Oct 06, 2006 05:29 PM

"Plot to kill??!!" Not enough time.
 
Defective Unit. Semi-human.

Will be a predator the rest of his life. Why subject the rest of humanity to him in the future?

#5 Highflight Oct 06, 2006 07:03 PM

A kid who can plan that kind of thing at 15 years old is a lost cause.

My money is that when he gets out at 21 years old, it won't be a year before he hurts somebody... hopefully, himself.

Highflight

#6 CoastalFlyer Oct 07, 2006 03:08 AM

I completely agree with Highflight :)

#7 Arbo Oct 07, 2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CoastalFlyer
I completely agree with Highflight :)

Beacause you are a mean heartless republican. If you'd give someone the benifit of the doubt for a change, and realize that they just need to feel cared for and they will be better, and the anger will leave their hearts, then we could quit stuffing all the prisions full of the people that you don't care about because they would vote different than you!


(none of the above is real or serious. for the humorly impared, it contains a dry humor. if you don't get it, move along)

#8 Moe M. Oct 07, 2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Highflight
A kid who can plan that kind of thing at 15 years old is a lost cause.

My money is that when he gets out at 21 years old, it won't be a year before he hurts somebody... hopefully, himself.

Highflight

In most of these cases the courts hands are tied by pressident or the age of the accused or some other factor of law, but don't be so sure that he will be released after his six year sentence has been served, there will be alot of evaluating going on in those kids lives as they serve their sentences and if the powers that be feel that they should not be released, chances are they won't.
For example, there's a case in Little Rhodey where a young man with absolutely no remorse was sentenced to serve 4 years for killing a young girl that lived next door to him, at the time he was 14 years old, the girl was 14 years old, she was raped and strangled to death, at fourteen yeas old this kid was six-one and weighed in at 225 lbs., the court could only sentence him to serve time until his 18th birthday, within a year of his release he beat up another kid serving time for being a public nusence or smething, and another year was added to his sentence, five months before being released in the fifth year of his imprisonment he was found guilty of assaulting a guard at the prison and his sentence was increased another 10 years, a year later (last year) he was accused of conspirering with someone on the outside in a plot to kill the guard that accused him and was found guilty and was sentenced to life in prison without the chance of parole.

#9 Punkie Oct 07, 2006 08:49 AM

Its nice to know you have such faith in the reforming ability of your prison service.

#10 Highflight Oct 07, 2006 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Punkie
Its nice to know you have such faith in the reforming ability of your prison service.

Who gives a d*** about reform?

It's not about changing people from being who they are. Evil people are evil people and that's what they are.

It's not about punishment either, because if there was EVER a hint of punishment in the American justice system, it was removed a long time ago.

It's ALL about confinement in order to protect the people in society who matter from those who don't.

Animals who victimize others don't matter anything to anyone, so just keep them locked up in a very small space until they have a chance to die and relieve the rest of humanity from their existence. They had their chance at life, now get rid of them so that others can have their chance at life and making a decent existence for themselves without the scum of the earth getting in their way.

Tell me Punkie; how many of your societal pieces of trash does YOUR country "reform"?

Highflight

#11 Punkie Oct 07, 2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Highflight
Who gives a d*** about reform?

It's not about changing people from being who they are. Evil people are evil people and that's what they are.

It's not about punishment either, because if there was EVER a hint of punishment in the American justice system, it was removed a long time ago.

It's ALL about confinement in order to protect the people in society who matter from those who don't.

Animals who victimize others don't matter anything to anyone, so just keep them locked up in a very small space until they have a chance to die and relieve the rest of humanity from their existence. They had their chance at life, now get rid of them so that others can have their chance at life and making a decent existence for themselves without the scum of the earth getting in their way.

Tell me Punkie; how many of your societal pieces of trash does YOUR country "reform"?

Highflight

Frankly I have no idea how many get reformed. But some do. I have worked with, drank with and passed time with people who have done bad things. Some are people who should be locked up for ever, some are people who just made a mistake and will never commit a crime again, but most and that includes my nephew, are people who make bad choices and sometimes they can be helped to make the right choices, not always but some times. Just locking people up for ever if they commit a crime is a crazy and expensive way of treating the problem, at what point do you start locking them up for ever. If you are only going to lock them up for a short while how do you stop them committing crime when they are released? the very act of putting them in with other criminals encourages them to commit crime as they are surrounded by people who will see criminal behaviour as normal. Reforming them is both helpful for them but for society as a whole.
Prison is part of the answer but not all. As for this boy, thankfully he was caught. But when you where a boy did you never do or think something stupid? OK it will not be anything like as bad as these boysí actions but do you think you should be punished for it for the rest of your life?
By the way maybe you should see someone about all this hate you seem to have, if you donít get it sorted its possible you may commit an act you may regret.


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