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#1 Casey_S Nov 17, 2012 12:39 AM

KK2.0 - For a good cause
 
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Recently, Sid3ways was gracious enough to donate quadcopter equipment to my robotics club (thanks again dude, the mentor of the club is trying to figure out a way he can write this up as a tax cut for you). It's been assembled for about two weeks, but we're stuck on the Naze flight controller. The extremely scarce amount of documentation has really been killing us - we have all the proper equipment and a FrSky setup for CPPM but it's just not working, and we can't find any possible answers as to why.

I can tell the members are starting to get a little fed up and are losing interest in the copter, and I can't let that happen. So I'm looking for a KK2 LCD to swap out the Naze with. It seems like it'd be the perfect drop-in FC for a club copter. I'll most likely be paying for it out of my own pocket, so if I have to I'll just order it direct from Hobby King but considering how long this has already taken I'd rather not have to make the club wait through HK's slow shipping.

PM me if you have any on-hand.

http://piercerobotics.com/

#2 tech69x Nov 17, 2012 12:46 AM

You can get them in the U.S. from here got to pay a little more
http://gothelirc.com/shopdisplayprod...ler%2FMultiWii

#3 unfaix Nov 17, 2012 01:02 AM

do you want a copter control board?

#4 Casey_S Nov 17, 2012 01:10 AM

An OPCC? Depends on the price I guess. Might not be the best choice for a first FC for the club but I suppose it has much more longterm potential.

#5 unfaix Nov 17, 2012 01:15 AM

yeah I know, I am wondering what they want to achieve.

having fun flying, or having fun learning how flight controller and PID contribute to a fun flying machine, then flying.

You know?

Like if the Naze32 looses the members' interest, then I could only think that, the problem is connecting the controller to pc, change some PID then test, then to pc again, then test, etc.

And going to the KK2 with the buttons and lcd built in would allow more flight time, with less pc involved but still have to configure.

Otherwise, I dont know of any controller that's super simple other than dji

#6 KKUSA Nov 17, 2012 01:15 AM

What FrSky receiver are you using? Are you sure you have one with CPPM out? Only a few of them do.

If you are sure it does, and your wiring is correct then its as simple as below.

Connect to the Naze using a serial terminal (i like realterm) at 115200 baud.

Then execute the following commands.

# <send> (enters CLI mode)
mixer quadx <send> (sets mixer to X mode)
feature ppm <send> (enables CPPM)
save <send> (saves changes and reboots)


After that, download the Multiwii GUI for version 2.1. Connect to the port it is connected to. Watch the radio channel bars to the right as you move your sticks, they should move. If not, check your wiring again.

That should literally be all that is needed. Then you can make sure your motors are spinning the right directions, and is responding to sticks properly. Leave props OFF for all this.

#7 Casey_S Nov 17, 2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by unfaix (Post 23290058)
yeah I know, I am wondering what they want to achieve.

having fun flying, or having fun learning how flight controller and PID contribute to a fun flying machine, then flying.

You know?

Like if the Naze32 looses the members' interest, then I could only think that, the problem is connecting the controller to pc, change some PID then test, then to pc again, then test, etc.

And going to the KK2 with the buttons and lcd built in would allow more flight time, with less pc involved but still have to configure.

Otherwise, I dont know of any controller that's super simple other than dji

An OPCC would be better as an educational tool, which I'm sure the executive board would prefer. Actually, that is probably a good idea. An OPCC would make the copter an ongoing educational project whose results we can see in the real world, and its user friendly interface makes it approachable. The KK2 would make it more of a toy we'd probably lose interest in eventually anyway.

Again, depends on the price though. I can rationalize all I want but in the end cash is king, and ours is in another castle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKUSA (Post 23290059)
What FrSky receiver are you using? Are you sure you have one with CPPM out? Only a few of them do.

If you are sure it does, and your wiring is correct then its as simple as below.

Connect to the Naze using a serial terminal (i like realterm) at 115200 baud.

Then execute the following commands.

# <send> (enters CLI mode)
mixer quadx <send> (sets mixer to X mode)
feature ppm <send> (enables CPPM)
save <send> (saves changes and reboots)


After that, download the Multiwii GUI for version 2.1. Connect to the port it is connected to. Watch the radio channel bars to the right as you move your sticks, they should move. If not, check your wiring again.

That should literally be all that is needed. Then you can make sure your motors are spinning the right directions, and is responding to sticks properly. Leave props OFF for all this.

We're using a D8R-II Plus flashed with the D8R-XP's latest firmware essentially turning it into one. I've tested it myself, the CPPM is fully functional.

As far as connecting to the Naze, we don't have the proper equipment. The closest thing we have to that would be the FUC-3 FrSky serial cable for upgrading firmware which didn't seem to work.

#8 wingspinner Nov 17, 2012 10:36 AM

Since it's a club and non-profit (right?) all you guys have to do is give whoever donates something a receipt saying they donated whatever it is and the value with the name of your club and the donors name. Then the donor will have documentation in case he get's audited.

#9 KKUSA Nov 17, 2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey_S (Post 23290114)
We're using a D8R-II Plus flashed with the D8R-XP's latest firmware essentially turning it into one. I've tested it myself, the CPPM is fully functional.

As far as connecting to the Naze32, we don't have the proper equipment. The closest thing we have to that would be the FUC-3 FrSky serial cable for upgrading firmware which didn't seem to work.

All you need to connect to the Naze32 is a USB mini cable, nothing special required. Im certain somebody has one of those!!!!

#10 unfaix Nov 17, 2012 11:23 AM

and configuring the naze32 couldnt be any easier, you got option of using the comman line, gui from pc or android.

#11 Clavin01 Nov 17, 2012 02:40 PM

Hello
I have an I86 from HK it does not get any simpler to set-up
set the switches and go fly. I used it then went to the Naze32
Let me know if interested. Thanks

#12 kauaicuda Nov 17, 2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KKUSA (Post 23292089)
All you need to connect to the Naze32 is a USB mini cable, nothing special required. Im certain somebody has one of those!!!!

Maybe they're using an 8-bit Naze and not the Naze32?

#13 Clavin01 Nov 17, 2012 06:05 PM

yes I noticed that in the original Post, he said naze
not naze 32

#14 Derek_S Nov 19, 2012 07:23 AM

Have you thought about a multiwii?

I dont know what all your requirements are in an FC or for your club goals, but here you can get one as low as $19, and for a little more even get GPS and sensor addon capability.

I have the FLIP controller and it is great, although I just fly it around, no sensors or GPS.

http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/fli...ntrollers.html

#15 KKUSA Nov 20, 2012 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek_S (Post 23306520)
Have you thought about a multiwii?

I dont know what all your requirements are in an FC or for your club goals, but here you can get one as low as $19, and for a little more even get GPS and sensor addon capability.

I have the FLIP controller and it is great, although I just fly it around, no sensors or GPS.

http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/fli...ntrollers.html

Thats essentially what he has!!!!


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