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#1 bobbart Nov 16, 2012 05:27 AM

Need your opinion on the two below jets
 
Need your opinion on the two below jets. Which one do you think is the better one? Just give me your opinion why?
Thanks So Much,
bobbart

NEW A-10 Warthog Remote Control Electric RC Fighter Jet Plane Airplane RTF EDF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-A-10-War...271#vi-content

or

F/A-18F RC READY TO FLY Electric RC Jet plane EDF Plane F18 RTF

http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-A-18F-RC-R...:X:AAQ:US:1123

#2 Low Hover Nov 16, 2012 05:49 AM

Go to this website http://www.bananahobby.com/super-fig...5416-prd1.html. Purchase a good radio like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spektrum-DX7...item337dc209d6. Save about $150 bucks:cool:

#3 bobbart Nov 16, 2012 06:40 AM

Thank You for your reply back
 
Thank You for your reply back. But the jets are sold as a complete package with radio.

Bobbart

#4 CoolerByTheLake Nov 16, 2012 09:17 AM

I would pass on both! Why? First the radio. http://www.bananahobby.com/product_78360_detailed.html First a good 12 channel radio is going to be in excess of $1000.00. This one sells for $83.90 and takes AA batteries!

The description of the plane is wonderfully vague. Says alot, tells little. I love this one: " Super scale, strong and durable threaded rotary shaft driven retract system (no more stripping servos)" He just could have said electric retracts!

The biggest factor is Quality. It's all low end at best. Most people will buy the airframe and put quality components in.

Before you throw away your hard earned money, do some research on these. Check out the the foamy section for threads on these.
http://www.rcgroups.com/foamy-edfs-377/

#5 phantomphan Nov 16, 2012 10:01 AM

Not that I like playing firefighter but both of those are overpriced for what youd be getting.
The Tx is likely just ok but Id question how user friendly it is. We've seen a lot of that with the cheaper stuff. Heres the Tx but you have to download a manual if there is one, download software to a PC to be able to setup the thing.... Id call them and ask questions if you can get them on them phone or search the forums to see how well people like em.
The charger will likely be questionable as well, quality and functionality wise.
RTF's commonly come with the least amount of battery as well. Capacity and C rating. A 3000mah for a twin 70mm (A-10)? Give me a break. The thing has twin 50A esc's. So accounting for some overhead lets say each motor/fan pulls 40amps. So 80A total draw on 3000mah means about a 2 minute flight at full throttle. Throttle management might stretch the flight to 3.5??
Watch some of Banana's videos to see for your self. They regularly fly with better radios (JR/spectrum), use better chargers, and batteries.

And we havent even got to how poor some of the gear in the airplanes are; landing gear, servos, motors, ESC's, unbalanced fans...

At the end of the day theres no such thing as an RTF airplane in the price bracket we're talking about.
Cheers.

#6 stoneenforcer Nov 16, 2012 10:04 AM

i have to agree wiht these reponses. those RTF birds, if purchased, if they even function out of the box, wont live or operate very long. Prob not past a 30 second flight. I wouldnt waste your money on them. there's much better rtf options available for you to view.

as for banana, i paid for items which never shipped and they never refunded me. so be warned.

#7 bobbart Nov 17, 2012 07:05 AM

Thank You for your feedback
 
Thank You for your feedback. I'm not going to buy the jet from banana
Question, what about the below site for this jet?
eRC F/A 18E Super Hornet 90mm ARF Jet (OVERSIZE)

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/erc_f_a_1...ueryId=3581647

Can you review "Everything You'll Need" on that page and let me know what you think and your opinion. It looks like the total
price for the above jet .....everything would be around $900.00

Bobbart

#8 Double E Nov 17, 2012 09:24 AM

Bobbart,

Hobby Lobby is a reputable supplier and the majority of their products perform as advertised. I would say that the F-18 you referenced is about as complicated a foam EDF jet you can buy and unless you are an experienced EDF pilot, I'd recommend something a little less expensive and less complicated. The Stinger or the Rebel are great beginner EDF jets. To give you some perspective, the average lifespan of a first EDF jet might be one or two weeks.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/stinger_6...36475_prd1.htm

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/rebel_70_...34702_prd1.htm

#9 CoolerByTheLake Nov 17, 2012 09:35 AM

Valid point Double E. Aside from the plane, invest in the best radio you can afford.

#10 bobbart Nov 17, 2012 11:53 AM

Thanks for you help.
 
Thanks for you help.
I am not an experience EDF pilot.
Can you suggest a smaller fighter jet then the F-18?

The F-18 would be to complicated for me (F/A-18F RC READY TO FLY Electric RC Jet )....you right.

Thank Again,

Bobbart

#11 stingeragents Nov 17, 2012 12:08 PM

Um, have you ever flown a plane period?

#12 Double E Nov 17, 2012 12:12 PM

I've always liked the Phase 3 F-16 from Hobby People. It's a pretty simple build and if you invest in a descent radio like a Spektrum DX6 or 7 then you'll have a nice beginner EDF with a radio that will let you grow in the hobby.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...r-and-esc.html

An even easier build would be the F-86 or Mig-15 from Hobby Lobby.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/f_86_sabr...34360_prd1.htm

#13 bobbart Nov 18, 2012 06:53 AM

Looking for the below jet, I would appreciate your help locating one
 
Looking for the below jet, I would appreciate your help locating one.

* Fighter Jet
* Retracts
* Prefer fiberglass or if not form
* Twin 75mm or twin 55mm ducted fans
* Pilot
* Not looking for oversize

Yes, I only flown a small Prop plane

Thank You for your help,
bobbart

#14 Boogie_ Nov 18, 2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Yes, I only flown a small Prop plane
That's great.

These are great jets to get started in EDF.
You are setting yourself up for disappointment with the requirements you listed above.

Also, forget about the radios that come with those in those ARF packages. They are dead-end single model Tx's.
Better to invest in an entry level multi-model radio system that will allow you to grow into it as you progress. You will need expo, dual rates and mixing to fly EDF in the long haul.
Even if you decide to get out of RC you can sell your radio and recoup +60% of you money back.

#15 badfrog Nov 18, 2012 07:38 AM

Hey bobbart...
Hobby lobby is my local hobby shop (LHS)... Good folks and good products. Give them a call, tell them what your experience is and what you are wanting to do and ask for recommendations... Crazy Larry won't steer you wrong!
If you are just getting into flying, any one of the jets you have mentioned so far will be a handful...
As others have mentioned, a good radio will make a huge difference in your flying, planks (planes) or helis...


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