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#1 drambuidhe Nov 02, 2012 01:30 PM

s033g -27mhz to 2.4ghz
 
Can anyone help please? I've just removed the 27mhz pcb from my s033g and fitted a 2.4mhz board from a DH 9118 which runs the same 390 mains and n20 tail motors at the same 7.4v. Everything plugs in exactly the same. However, when the throttle stick was moved smoke came from the little black suppresser things on the motors. I immediatly stopped and unplugged the motors from the board to check the voltage coming out.I have proportional voltage coming from one but nothing from the other. I know the motors WERE good but now they are both dead. If the polarity was wrong to the motors? would'nt they just run backwards ?When I checked the voltage out of the board using the red wire from the motor as the assumed live in showed it as negative. Could it be that some strange reason they have changed the polarity out of the plugs and if so is this why the motors smoked?The tail motor works ok but forward and reverse are the wrong way round?:confused:

#2 Boris13 Nov 02, 2012 01:42 PM

Could be that you blew those black diodes on top of the motors. - on account of reversed voltage as you said. If so, then the motors are probably ok, but not the diodes :D

If you can replace them with something similar you may be OK. Just a suggestion. I'm no expert.

#3 drambuidhe Nov 02, 2012 02:01 PM

Yes I think you are right.The cunning g-ts have altered the polarity ouputs.I've no out put from one plug now so what would have blown on the pcb and can it be repaired? Iblew one of those suppresser things once before but just pinched one off a worn out spare which cured it , so hopefully the motors are ok.:mad:

#4 Boris13 Nov 02, 2012 02:04 PM

Yep, maybe the output transistors could be damaged too, if your unlucky. Think they're usually FET types.

#5 drambuidhe Nov 02, 2012 02:27 PM

Are they the big black square things with metal heatsinks or the smaller semi circular thingsof which there are four?? Having just waited 4 weeks for this pcb from China I'm hoping I can repair it. Especially since its all an experiment and the pcb may not last long on the s033g anyway. I really hope I'm not gona have to buy another:confused:

#6 Boris13 Nov 02, 2012 05:59 PM

I'm pretty sure they're the big ones with the heat sinks, though I've never replaced these myself.

Just a thought, you might be able to use the transistors from your old FM receiver....
They may even be idenentical to those used on the 2.4G pcb.
You need to read the numbers written on them.

#7 drambuidhe Nov 03, 2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris13 (Post 23167661)
I'm pretty sure they're the big ones with the heat sinks, though I've never replaced these myself.

Just a thought, you might be able to use the transistors from your old FM receiver....
They may even be idenentical to those used on the 2.4G pcb.
You need to read the numbers written on them.

I think had I connected the motors up the otherway round all would have been good.I've ordered a replacement so will now have to be patient and try again later. Hows the s33? do you think it's better than the 33g?Thanks for your help.

#8 drambuidhe Nov 03, 2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drambuidhe (Post 23173785)
I think had I connected the motors up the otherway round all would have been good.I've ordered a replacement so will now have to be patient and try again later. Hows the s33? do you think it's better than the 33g?Thanks for your help.

sorry It's not you with the new s33 ,think I'm having a senior moment!!

#9 Boris13 Nov 03, 2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drambuidhe (Post 23173860)
sorry It's not you with the new s33 ,think I'm having a senior moment!!

Yep, I don't even have one.:D
I'm only here because the title looked interesting.

#10 drambuidhe Nov 03, 2012 05:52 PM

What I don't understand is why these components blow if the polarity is reversed.I used to make model boats using similiar motors with noise suppressors on them and they reversed??:confused:

#11 xtian3188 Nov 03, 2012 09:54 PM

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i got the same problem recently also. the small black square thingy (diode) on the motor pcb smoked and i managed to fix it. here are some photos.


edit: it should be diode in the middle with the gray strip pointing to the positive terminal of the motors (white and red).

#12 drambuidhe Nov 04, 2012 11:57 AM

Thanks a lot for that! Two questions though. Where can I get those from and do they allow for a wally reversing their polarity?? P.s how did you blow yours in the first place?Cheers!

#13 xtian3188 Nov 04, 2012 03:35 PM

you can get those at your local electronics shop. any small diode will do. the round one is ceramic disk capacitor (i think). the diode act as a one way valve so you dont want it to be reversed. i tried using old esc from my rc car to run my s033g then i accidentally reversed the polarity on one motor.

#14 dwtriac23 Nov 07, 2012 06:47 AM

diodes have a polarity, ceramic disc capacitors do not, if that helps

#15 drambuidhe Nov 23, 2012 04:31 PM

s033g 27-2.4
 
Well looks like I'll be back in the air tomorrow, weather depending. However,not on 2.4-YET! My 27mhz replacement pcb turned up today but still no signs of the long awaited 9118 2.4ghz pcb to replace the one I shorted out!! At least I can see if the floats I've made are going to work. I've tried them tonight indoors and the signs aren't good, looks like even at around 100g they are taking some lifting:(


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