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#1 bigfella65 Oct 18, 2012 04:02 PM

Turnigy H.A.L. (Heavy Aerial Lift) Hexacopter Frame
 
Might have to add this one to the collection I thinks...

HobbyKing Daily - HAL Hexacopter (1 min 25 sec)


I like the landing gear on this one , looks a lot stronger than the quad version.

#2 aForcefulThrust Oct 22, 2012 05:37 AM

Anyone have any info/builds on this? Think it would be hard to mount the aeroXcraft payload rails on this hex for my gimbal/battery?

#3 aForcefulThrust Oct 27, 2012 07:50 AM

I ordered one, no one else with one yet?

#4 morris.hans Nov 11, 2012 09:29 AM

Pm me if you have updates or pics that will help others by posting on here on the first page.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...4-24_804-1.jpg

My Parts List:

1. HK HAL 775mm Hexacopter
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ame_775mm.html

2. Turnigy 2826 1200kv http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...dProduct=26820)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00KV_315W.html

3. 28 Series Motor Accessory Pack
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...sory_Pack.html

4. 10x4.5 Slow Flyer Props, 3 clockwise 3 counterclockwise (IVE BROKEN SEVERAL OF THESE PROPS MID AIR, FIND SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE HEXACOPTER)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ion_Blue_.html

5. HK Blue 30a escs, they will re-flash for simonk program.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ontroller.html

6. HK Octo Distribution Board
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ion_Board.html

7. HK KK2 Flight controller
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...rol_Board.html

8. HK Orange Receiver (For DX6i)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Sat_Port_.html

9. HK Orange Receiver Satelite Port (better range & signal strength)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._Receiver.html

10. HK Male to Male Servo Extensions (RX to KK2)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0pcs_set_.html

11. Battery Mount (I forgot to order this part)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...unt_Plate.html

12. Battery 3000mah 20-30c 3s *PREFERENCE* Im going 3500mah+ on next battery
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html
and 4000mah
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...3S1P_20C_.html

13. Plastic Contol Board Mounting Accessories (Wish I had bought a couple packs of these instead of one)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...cer_10pc_.html
and
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0pcs_bag_.html

Optional Parts:

1. LED's
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0pcs_set_.html

2. HK 3 Axis Camera Mount
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...era_Mount.html

Build Notes:

1. Landing gear may or may not fit together from the factory, do not try to force it together as it will easily get stuck in place requiring you to drill it out and start all over. Some people were able to use lubricating oil, but I used a 5/16" drill bit to make it slide together easy. The diameter of the legs are bigger than the diameter holes they cut for them to fit in.

3. On the motor-to-esc wiring I used 18 gauge wiring from radio shack. (Heat-shrink, Zip Ties, Blue Thread-Lock, Velcro)

5. Frame Alignment. See this before build to avoid taking frame apart multiple times
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=22

6. Help for first timers on HEX wiring and KK2 basics.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=26

7. KK2 voltage sensor solder point.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=11

8. KK2 tuning guide
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1675613

9. Multiple pics below from build.

Flying Weight With No Battery: 1684 Grams / 3.71lbs

HK HAL Hexacopter Flight (0 min 0 sec)


****ORIGINAL POST**** (12/3/2012)

The bracing for the legs aren't drilled for the right sizing of the legs :( I'm gonna have to buy a drill bit and widen the hole to the correct size or sand the legs down thinner :( !!!!!!! Nearly tore up a legs trying to put them together hahaha. The rest of the kit is ok so far. This frame is stout. Arms have thickness to them. Seems like this is going to be a rigid aluminum frame.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-02-21_399.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-33-48_468.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-52-32_600.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-53-37_944.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-53-48_172.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-55-39_520.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...9-30-22_31.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-39-35_937.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...9-29-10_79.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-31-36_759.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-38-50_924.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-39-15_280.jpg

#5 hobiej Nov 22, 2012 11:24 PM

Just hit the order button for this one too! I've been toying the idea between carbon, or Alum. I went the alum for the fact there will be not motor twisting, and I've got all the gear already
Can't wait!!!!

#6 FlyingMcCoy Nov 28, 2012 11:46 PM

Heavy frame.

#7 morris.hans Dec 03, 2012 11:05 PM

Got started on the HAL
 
Post Moved

#8 aForcefulThrust Dec 03, 2012 11:31 PM

Looking forward to seeing more of this from you!

#9 morris.hans Dec 04, 2012 10:52 PM

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-28-58_664.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-29-17_841.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...7-09-07_26.jpg

I USED THE BULLET PLUGS THAT I CUT OFF THE MOTORS FOR CHEAP/FREE BULLET PLUGS FOR ESC POWER :)
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-25-25_302.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-55-28_765.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-02-22_989.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-09-05_551.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-23-33_227.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-21-34_859.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-22-16_470.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-18-04_511.jpg

So far so good. I flew it a few inches off the ground and everything is stable and going right. It feels like a stable helicopter

Landing Gear: The very bottom of my landing gear is stuck in place as far as I could get them. I was able to drill out the rest of the landing gear and put it to use. Dont make the mistake I made and try to force/slide the landing gear together ***IT IS NOT CUT RIGHT FROM THE FACTORY***

#10 morris.hans Dec 05, 2012 10:46 PM

Gear Fix with drill bit persuasion. This is the only flaw in the whole kit. I used a 5/16" drill bit to make it right. If you try to put them together without drilling them and it starts getting snug.....its too late. Every move accumulates more and more aluminum so it wont slide backwards or forwards. In the end I ended up with good long landing skids and the stock ones are tiny:confused:. So far id highly recommend this multi copter. Day maiden coming.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-54-52_629.jpg

Wooden Gear (ca hardened) next to stock gear. I think the stock gear is too short and I will replace the wood with even longer carbon fiber skids.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-16-08_661.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...8-17-58_18.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-26-26_280.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-32-21_690.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-45-07_705.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-45-16_406.jpg

Cheap battery tray made of packaging tape. I forgot to order one but this should work for now.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-07-10_360.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-07-35_167.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...51-57_41-1.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...4-24_804-1.jpg

No Battery 1684 Grams / 3.71lbs.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-03-38_739.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-04-51_168.jpg

1919 Grams Flying weight with Turnigy 3000mah 20-30c 3s.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-05-20_887.jpg

Led test and maiden came all at once lol. Led's are plugged straight into the power distribution board. Now i have one more 12v out from the power distribution board, which will be for the camera equipment.
Self Level Off in video, I thought it would be a bad idea to maiden with self level on. I wanted to feel the trim which needed no adjustment.
LED HAL HEXACOPTER NIGHT MAIDEN (3 min 22 sec)

#11 morris.hans Dec 07, 2012 09:03 AM

Camera Mount / KK2 Voltage Sensor
 
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-14-38_467.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-22-02_925.jpg

Single wire to positive for KK2 to read battery voltage. I went straight to the positive on the octo power distribution board using another unused clipped off motor bullet plug.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-21-12_149.jpg

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...-29-17_910.jpg

#12 morris.hans Dec 07, 2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aForcefulThrust (Post 23112787)
I ordered one, no one else with one yet?

Did you ever get yours going?

#13 urukhai Dec 10, 2012 10:56 AM

Whaouh, very clean build
can you please post screens of kk2.0 with all your settings?
PID gain, misc,
this could help ofr adjusting our own heaxcopter?

Do you think i can mount 6 turnigy 2217 16turn 1050kv outrunner? or these are not enough powerful?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Outrunner.html

#14 Appfan Dec 10, 2012 11:31 AM

I'll echo the others - clean build.

I'm curious how many amps you're pulling through the power distribution board. I see where it's only rated for 10 amps on HK's website.

#15 morris.hans Dec 10, 2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urukhai (Post 23490724)
Whaouh, very clean build
can you please post screens of kk2.0 with all your settings?
PID gain, misc,
this could help ofr adjusting our own heaxcopter?

Do you think i can mount 6 turnigy 2217 16turn 1050kv outrunner? or these are not enough powerful?
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Outrunner.html

I think 6 of the 2217 will definitely fly this thing. They make 900grams of thrust at 15A on a single motor. So 6 x 900 grams will give you about 5400 grams of theoretical lift which should be more than enough to tote this ~2000gram hex. The bigger you make the gap between actual weight and thrust the better (all things equal like a battery that can supply 15A x 6 = 90A without puffing. I wish I had opted for the 35 series motors cause im so used to overpowered helis, but what I have now is more than enough for sport.

I actually just started playing with the PID settings when I realized that I left my charger at home. I started out with stock settings but have since changed since I activated self leveling / dampening. I will post vids and pics when charger arrives later this week.


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