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#1 brianshell Jan 04, 2012 02:34 PM

Top 10 things I wish I'd paid attention to when getting started in FPV.
 
As a thank you to all who helped me through the first few weeks / months of my adventures into FPV, I wanted to write up a short list of important things I learned that I FAILED to pay attention to when I was getting things going.

Background: I'm a network engineer and a ham radio operator of 15+ years, and I came into this with plenty of experience flying "Park Flyers". I got into RC planes SPECIFICALLY to do FPV, but figured I'd better learn to fly first. =)

So here we go....

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Lesson 1) Start simple. I initially did a ton of research and bought every component I thought I wanted. (OSD, Autopilot, TX, RX, goggles, diversity, antenna tracking, head-tracking, etc.). I spent countless hours trying to get it all working together before I even attempted my first flight. I figured my technical prowess made me somehow immune to the KISS rule and I'd be fine diving in head first. All I accomplished was making myself frustrated.

Eventually, I stripped the system down to the bare minimum (Camera, transmitter, receiver, and LCD screen) and just FLEW (with a spotter, of course). It was AWESOME! I landed the plane, took it home, and added the pan-tilt system, then flew again. Then I added the goggles, and flew again. I learned that each component made the experience completely new again, and even more complex. The downside? It takes a LOT of time. Like most of you, I have a day-job and a family, which means LIMITED time to work on this stuff.

Besides, had I managed to get myself flying with all the gizmos on day-1, I likely would have crashed due to "too many moving parts". Despite having a nearly unlimited budget, and lots of technical prowess in both electronics and radios, I was eventually forced to walk before I could run.

Accept the fact that it's going to take you a few weeks (or months) to get all the toys working, and focus on the small victories.

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Lesson 2) The little things matter. A LOT. I really thought the "little things" were for people trying to squeeze an extra half-mile out of their setup, or trying to make the picture just a little more clear. I was dead wrong. It turns out, the little things are the difference between amazing success and complete failure. When someone tells you that you ought to install a filter somewhere, or shield your wires, or move your GPS a little further from your transmitter, DO IT. I learned that these (seemingly) little things can have more of an impact then spending hundreds of dollars on newer / better gear. And in some cases, they're the ONLY solution.

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Lesson 3) A lot of this gear doesn't work with each other. Do a LOT of homework before you buy stuff to make sure it's all going to be compatible. (Example, I bought a pair of FoxTech goggles, only to learn that the built-in receiver wouldn't work with my ImmersionRC transmitter!). A little research before my purchase would have saved me a lot of headaches here. It simply did not occur to me that a 5.8ghz receiver might not be compatible with another 5.8ghz transmitter. Another example? None of the head-tracking systems will work with my JR-9503. Choose your gear carefully.

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Lesson 4) When deciding whether you should be using 5.8ghz, 2.4ghz, 1.2ghz, or 900mhz -- the answer REALLY IS "it depends". I just couldn't come to grips with the idea that there would be such dramatic difference between these. Here's the rub: There are pros and cons to each (you should do enough research to know EXACTLY what those pros and cons are). But in the end, it really depends on where you happen to be standing. A half-mile in any given direction might completely change your choice. So how do you pick? The truth it, you're probably going to end up trying them all.

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Lesson 5) We all dream of flying 15+ miles and zooming around the countryside, but it's not realistic until you've got years of experience. I know, I thought I was immune to this rule too. I figured if I spent enough money and bought top of the line everything, and all the different gear I needed, I'd have my plane flying 10+ miles within a week or two. "Surely", I thought, "the only reason MOST people aren't flying those distances is because of budget, or lack of RF knowledge". I got humbled REALLY quick. My first flight where I flew beyond the range of my spotter was an immense victory (it was probably my 10th flight). I'm still aiming for the 2-mile mark. Set your goals small, and know that big goals mean big-time experience.

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Lesson 6) This stuff is actually not that complex, but if you're not comfortable holding a soldering iron, it's probably not for you. Lots of wire cutting, splicing, soldering, and other such fun. At first, I wanted to avoid all that and try to get something that would "just work". After dozens of hours and countless dollars trying to do just that, I picked up a soldering iron a fit of frustration one day and realized it's MUCH easier to just build the things you need than it is to try and find / order everything.

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Lesson 7) A little understanding of RF theory goes a long way. Thank heavens I came into this with tons of ham radio experience, so I understood simple concepts like why you don't want to run a transmitter without an antenna, why the orientation of the antenna matters so much, or why 500mw on 5.8ghz is less effective than 200mw on 900mhz. Get your ham radio license and really understand what's in the test rather than just memorizing the Q&A.

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Lesson 8) The gear works, but it's not commercial grade by any standard. I was surprised to find that most of this stuff comes straight from China, it's poorly (if ever) documented, and it's really up to you to figure out how to make it all work together. While not the end of the world, it certainly was not what I was expecting to be getting myself into. The fact that the gear is not particularly robust makes it all the more important to spend the time to get it EXACTLY right, and test it, test it, and test it some more.

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Lesson 9) To whatever extent possible, try to be alone. I'm not saying you should fly without a spotter (you should have a spotter, especially when you're new). But I learned quickly that if I was with a group, there was a lot of pressure to perform. I learned that my time in the field was best spent when I could spend as much time as I needed on a particular problem, without feeling the pressure of having other folks watching or waiting. Find a wide open space where you can tweak, fly, repeat as much as you need.

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Lesson 10) The guys here in rcgroups are actually super nice and helpful as long as you approach them with the appropriate level of humility. I've been extremely impressed with the community here. Ask your question nicely, provide the relevant detail, and explain clearly the results you are trying to achieve. Then, re-read your post to make sure you don't sound like a whiny little ass before you submit. Be prepared to do a lot of reading (sometimes answers to questions come in the form of long threads). Be understanding if nobody wants to repeat what's already been discussed.

#2 rsands2801 Jan 04, 2012 02:41 PM

Good post. Totally agree with 6

#3 doggit Jan 04, 2012 02:49 PM

i would say lesson 5 is so right, i think we all start off thinking we will be out flying 5 miles away after a couple of flights, but there is so much to see when you fly a couple of hundred yards / meters away,
carl

#4 Daemon Jan 04, 2012 02:55 PM

Should make this a sticky.
Good advice, all of it.

ian

#5 Rrated Jan 04, 2012 03:07 PM

#9 so true friends always want to go with me to watch , but they think its ready to fly in 2 min , and some times you can over look the smallest adjustment that could lead to a crash!!

#6 malcr001 Jan 04, 2012 03:28 PM

Excellent I found all of this to be true. It should be a sticky for newbies to FPV.

#7 Wingnut13 Jan 04, 2012 03:34 PM

Sounds like solid advice I wish a had a year ago. I've learned a lot but this is still good to hear.

#8 FPVilicious Jan 04, 2012 04:12 PM

Excellent post, but #10 is not my experience thusfar, but maybe I just talked to the wrong people. Might want to post this up on FPVlab too!

#9 Blue Chip Jan 05, 2012 05:00 AM

Learning to solder - especially with a needle tip and under a magnifying glass is one of the keys... Get yourself a solder station - one with a couple of arms with aligator clips. It will make your life sooooo much easier.

Agree with keeping it simple as well.

Nice write up.

#10 gundamnitpete Jan 05, 2012 05:32 AM

definitely a good post. Rule #1 is key.

#11 galaxiex Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM

Bump.

I think this should be a sticky.

#12 Toysrme Jan 12, 2012 10:44 PM

i do too. there are guides all over the place & a new one is written on a monthly or bi-monthly basis.
this is short & to the point & not exactly a "guide" as much as it is "how to save yourself from your own ignorance".


it's all so true also. the devil really is in the details.

#13 V Jan 12, 2012 11:01 PM

Lol no.1 is so true
I'm still working on my ground station after all this time & I haven't flown FPV yet. I was out of the hobby for a while for different reasons but still
P.S.Pics of my GS are on my home page if anybody is interested

#14 renatoa Jan 13, 2012 12:45 AM

7) is true, but example was poor. Power and band choice is not all.
I am flying actually more km with 200mw on 5.8ghz than I ever flown with 700mw on 1280mhz.
Notice the power levels are reversed vs. the original post.

#15 Daemon Jan 13, 2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RENATOA (Post 20408481)
7) is true, but example was poor. Power and band choice is not all.
I am flying actually more km with 200mw on 5.8ghz than I ever flown with 700mw on 1280mhz.
Notice the power levels are reversed vs. the original post.

With exactly same style of properly tuned antennas on both systems? Color me skeptical.
My omni range on 1.3Ghz easily matches the high gain range of my buddy on 5.8Ghz.
There was nothing wrong with the OP's example.

ian


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