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#1 Doubletap Nov 15, 2011 03:35 PM

Extreme Flyers X350 5A2, 5 CH Coaxial, flies in wind/Fast forward Flight capable.
 
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Extreme Flyers 5A2 coaxial 5 CH, 2.4Ghz, brushless upgrade ready.



http://www.extreme-flyers.com/en/ima...n/x350-5A2.jpg

Specs:

Main Motor: 2x 180#
Tail Motor: N30
LiPo Battery: 11.1V 850mAh 22C LIPO
Balance Charger 15VDC, 2-3S LIPO cells, output: ≤ 1A charge
AC Adapter: 100-240VAC 50/60Hz, output 15V/1A
Transmitter: 2.4GHz 5ch GFSK
RC Distance ≤200 m
Rotor diameter: 476mm
Fuselage length 515mm
Height: 250mm
Weight: 427g
Servo: 2 x 8g
Receiver 5in1 2.4GHz GFSK integrated controller

Patent design of Anti-wind, perfect for out door flight;

Patent No.:PCT/C N2010/002183;

Durable main blades for your practic flight;

Users can fly inlow speed or high speed flight mode;

Smart "5 in 1 " mix controller works with head lock gyro, no need to

adjust any gain or proportional.

"5 in 1 " controller can directly upgrade to brushless motor systems;

5-channel radio system;

http://extreme-flyers.com/en/index.p.../helicopter/74

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...ort-body.html#
http://extreme-flyers.com/en/index.php/helicopter


Extreme X350 Heli (0 min 56 sec)

#2 TimJohnson Nov 17, 2011 01:28 PM

This looks like it could be fun! Hmm...Wonder if I can install a camera on it...LOL

#3 Stamp Nov 17, 2011 08:52 PM

I don't know about the whole outdoor thing.
Coaxes don't handle wind well. I'd like to see more outdoor video. Not just a few secs worth.
Jim

#4 Doubletap Nov 17, 2011 09:06 PM

Watch this video of the X350 5B1 flying FFF outdoors, notice the flags blowing in the background, pretty good performance and authority in wind. It's obvious how it is done, the 5th channel mixes the pitch with the main motors throttle, so like cheapo 3 channel helis, the tail rotor will pitch the airframe so that the main rotors lift are vectored forward and throttle is applied for forward or rearward thrust,

http://extreme-flyers.com/en/index.p...x350-5b1-video

#5 Stamp Nov 17, 2011 09:25 PM

For the price no thanks.
A four channel does the same with a swash instead of a tail rotor.
Any fixed pitch heli will not handle much wind.
Jim

#6 TimJohnson Nov 18, 2011 11:31 AM

That is a pretty narrow view on things?

#7 Stamp Nov 18, 2011 11:37 AM

Just reality.

#8 Sparky Paul Nov 26, 2011 05:40 PM

Both of those have swash plates, not relying on only changing rotor speeds for control.

#9 Reluctant Nov 26, 2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubletap (Post 19904391)
Watch this video of the X350 5B1 flying FFF outdoors, notice the flags blowing in the background, pretty good performance and authority in wind. It's obvious how it is done, the 5th channel mixes the pitch with the main motors throttle, so like cheapo 3 channel helis, the tail rotor will pitch the airframe so that the main rotors lift are vectored forward and throttle is applied for forward or rearward thrust,

http://extreme-flyers.com/en/index.p...x350-5b1-video

Looks like that config would reduce or eliminate blade strike issues requiring one or two less mods. Still wondering if a BNF Eflite CX120 at 129 and 70.00 worth of parts would get me further than this 199.00 coax.

#10 Doubletap Nov 26, 2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reluctant (Post 19978466)
Looks like that config would reduce or eliminate blade strike issues requiring one or two less mods. Still wondering if a BNF Eflite CX120 at 129 and 70.00 worth of parts would get me further than this 199.00 coax.


No, because you still have the same problem, cyclic alone with any helicopter doesn't provide enough percentage fwd/rwd thrust of the total lift from the main rotors, this includes single rotor fixed pitch and CP setups, to be able to fly effectively into wind, you must have adequate fwd/rwd thrust. the problem with conventional helicopter designs, the percentage of thrust vectored away from the primary lift thrust to just keep the VTOL aircraft aloft by cyclic pitch is just not enough to really yield adequate longitudinal velocity to overcome the prevailing head/tail wind speed with any authority.

#11 kodak_jack Nov 27, 2011 07:17 AM

Subscribe. Interesting.

#12 TimJohnson Nov 27, 2011 10:44 AM

In that video it did not look like the heli had any problem in the wind.

#13 kodak_jack Nov 27, 2011 11:58 AM

In the case of the RCINTHEBOX 450 size heli, the prop in the back is pushing the heli in FFF. In the case of this X350, the prop is pointing up, just like on 3 channel heli's. If it's pointing straight up and does not pivot, what exactly is that thing doing? That heli, in FFF, looks like any other heli with forward bias from shifted CG. Most of us aren't into 3 channel heli's, so, we don't know about the rear motor and prop.

#14 Doubletap Dec 07, 2011 09:45 AM

Extreme Flyers X350 5A2, 5 CH Coaxial, flies in wind/Fast forward Flight capable.
 
X-350 5A2 now in stock at Hobby People






It's on it's way, ordered today with Hobby People.net Free shipping promotion,

Free shipping is good from 12/7 thru 12/11



anxious to try it out, I am a half mile from the Pacific ocean, and rarely is there a breeze less then 5 mph anytime, typical wind speed here is 8-10 mph. X-350 is rated for 8 mph wind. It would be nice to have a large heli like this that can be flown in my fairly small yards in normal wind conditions. Will post my impressions, pics and flight report upon receipt.:cool::)

#15 TimJohnson Dec 07, 2011 09:49 AM

Yep, can't wait to get mine.


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