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#1 warthox Sep 26, 2011 07:28 AM

Flycam / KK Blackboard / Naviboard / Sonar Thread
 
i think many questions about the flycam boards get lost in the big main kk thread; so this thread should be for discussion and sharing infos about the flycam kk blackboard, naviboard, sonar and software from minsoo.

site from minsoo: http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/

blackboard manual: http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.html?modea=manual
naviboard manual: http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.ht...ea=navi_manual

blackboard firmware: http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.html?modea=flycamfc
naviboard firmware: http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/index.ht...=navi_firmware


http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...0&d=1315348954

#2 warthox Sep 26, 2011 07:28 AM

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photos of the electronics

blackboard

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...2&d=1317048736

naviboard

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...6&d=1317048736

gps modul

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...7&d=1317048799

sonar modul

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...8&d=1317048736

#3 warthox Sep 26, 2011 07:29 AM

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photos of my quad with the flycam electronics

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showa...2&d=1317049204

#4 warthox Sep 26, 2011 07:29 AM

videos


flying with naviboard on [gyro+acc] and off [gyro only]

kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard on/off (2 min 22 sec)


kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard on/off 2 (2 min 27 sec)



naviboard gps position hold and alt hold with baro in wind

kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard gps ph / alt hold in wind (2 min 32 sec)



naviboard gps position hold, coming home and alt hold

kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard gps ph during spin (2 min 27 sec)


kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard gps ph/ch (2 min 21 sec)



sonar for alt hold

kk quad // flycam blackboard + naviboard sonar test (2 min 12 sec)

#5 pdemon Sep 26, 2011 07:36 AM

Nice idea warthox,
I'm keeping an eye on the naviboard: so little reviews, but seems interesting.
I like the simple philosophy of KK and hope the naviboard will follow the rule, but performing like it should. There are so many deluded people around when GPS and other gymnicks have been added to known boards....

#6 Quad_Addict Sep 26, 2011 08:56 AM

cool warthox, but where is your insight, how do you like it whats your take on it?

#7 warthox Sep 26, 2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quad_Addict (Post 19424476)
cool warthox, but where is your insight, how do you like it whats your take on it?

my impressions of the system so far.

stablemode works great. on of the best i flew so far.
acromode flies also great. basically its flying with the blackboard. navi off.
sonar works good. high is hold very precise in low alt.
baro works. its going up and down a bit. found out that i got the best result when i activate it in near hover and giving just a bit more throttle when activated. the pot is set to max atm.
gps ph works. in wind it stays in the area where u activated it, with no wind its more precise but its not 100% stationary. i would say the quad stays in a diameter of arround 2-10m. u can manually fly away when gps ph is activated and if u release the sticks the quad nicley comes back to its ph position. not to fast and not to slow. sometimes the quad 'overshoots' the position but it comes back.
gps ch works. the quad comes to the position where u armed the quad the last time before activating gps ch. precision is the same as with ph. i have the feeling that the quad flies faster to the home position than when it comes back after u flew away in ph mode.
sometimes i had to recalibrate mag/gps to get a gps fix for the first time a day.

due the gps/sonar etc is adjustable i cannot guarantee that i found the best settings. so maybe its possible to get better result.

#8 Quad_Addict Sep 26, 2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by warthox (Post 19425357)
my impressions of the system so far.

stablemode works great. on of the best i flew so far.
acromode flies also great. basically its flying with the blackboard. navi off.
sonar works good. high is hold very precise in low alt.
baro works. its going up and down a bit. found out that i got the best result when i activate it in near hover and giving just a bit more throttle when activated. the pot is set to max atm.
gps ph works. in wind it stays in the area where u activated it, with no wind its more precise but its not 100% stationary. i would say the quad stays in a diameter of arround 2-10m. u can manually fly away when gps ph is activated and if u release the sticks the quad nicley comes back to its ph position. not to fast and not to slow. sometimes the quad 'overshoots' the position but it comes back.
gps ch works. the quad comes to the position where u armed the quad the last time before activating gps ch. precision is the same as with ph. i have the feeling that the quad flies faster to the home position than when it comes back after u flew away in ph mode.
sometimes i had to recalibrate mag/gps to get a gps fix for the first time a day.

due the gps/sonar etc is adjustable i cannot guarantee that i found the best settings. so maybe its possible to get better result.

Wow all sounds great!

#9 rcimports Sep 27, 2011 12:15 PM

Thanks for starting this new thread Marcus!

I've got the Naviboard installed on my TriCopter, and this is my impressions and some help and assistance please?

Alt hold work OK. Like you say, basically hover it first, then switch and then it holds pretty good. One weird thing is I have to keep trimming it level when switching between modes? I did the ACC calibrations.

GPS Hold or RTH does not work at all?? I've done the calibrations, the blue LED lights up, but when I switch to PH it just goes into a direction and never stops, allways in a Northern direction, no matter what orientation I'm in,

Any advice please?

GPS and Alt pots both on 50%, Nic 60%/Roll 60%/Yaw 75%

Cheers
Dion

#10 Minsoo Kim Sep 28, 2011 05:12 AM

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Hi all
Now, I'm fixing the navi firmware. Before release the latest version.
please download the beta version and see the video for the compass initialization.

Move and hold the elevator stick to the left for three seconds. The sounder will beep and the Blue and Red LED will be flashing.
Take hold of the copter in both hands and rotate it as described below:-
1. tilt it 90 degrees though its pitch axes (tilting front to back) and roll axes (tilting left to right)
Repeat this step until the sounder will beeb once, twice and three times
2. A beep will sound indicating it has been successful.

During the above procedure, be sure to avoid any metal objects such as a car, or high-tension electrical cables; these distort the magnetic field around them etc.


FlyCam NaviBoard v1.2 - Calibrating the magnetometer (compass) (3 min 39 sec)


FlyCam Naviboard - Buzzer (2 min 21 sec)


Thanks in advance
Minsoo

#11 P.I.Engineer Sep 28, 2011 08:36 AM

i'm super interested in this board, when is the osd going to be available?

#12 warthox Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcimports (Post 19436095)
Alt hold work OK. Like you say, basically hover it first, then switch and then it holds pretty good. One weird thing is I have to keep trimming it level when switching between modes? I did the ACC calibrations.

u have to trim when you activate baro? i dont saw that on my quad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcimports (Post 19436095)
GPS Hold or RTH does not work at all?? I've done the calibrations, the blue LED lights up, but when I switch to PH it just goes into a direction and never stops, allways in a Northern direction, no matter what orientation I'm in,

the blue led is blinking till it has found enough satellites. when gps is ready the blue led lights permanent.

if this not happen redo the mag/gps calibration.

it can take some seconds till the board has a gps fix.

gps ph/ch won't work until the blue led lights permanent.

#13 rcimports Sep 28, 2011 10:32 AM

Thanks,

That is exactly what I said, the Blue LED lights up permanently and buzzer beeps, so sat is fine. PH or RTH still doesn't work, just goes in one direction.

Yes, trim is different between normal and alt hold?

Cheers
Dion

#14 tarrigo Sep 28, 2011 05:16 PM

Will all the Flycam naviboard functions like sonar and hold mode for tricopters with the KK blackboard.

#15 Minsoo Kim Sep 28, 2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrod155 (Post 19444290)
i'm super interested in this board, when is the osd going to be available?

Dear Sir
We have developing the osd board and will release in Oct.

Thanks in advance
Minsoo


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