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#1 beenflying Sep 25, 2011 09:33 PM

New Tarot ZYX/ZYX-S/ZYX-S2 Flybarless System
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I just found this Tarot ZYX flybarless 3 axis gyro system:

Attachment 4305696 Attachment 4305697 Attachment 4479038 Attachment 4479039 Attachment 4550632

Attachment 6218120 Attachment 6180001

Says it's for 200 to 700 size helicopters on the box.

They have used the single plug with 3 Rx wires to keep the size down.

This unit can be programmed by the Tx or by a programming box. The Tx programming works fine, but the larger values are trickier to set. Setup is easier with the program box and a lot more options are available.

Note: This gyro does not have a total limit setting or a cyclic ring, so it is not possible to stop binding at stick corners.

!!! HOT !!!
The new ZYX-S2 - 32 bit processor, new MEMS sensors: Details Link - New Software Link
Dr.M's 3D plane settings: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10031
IFHELI's Quad setup: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9447
ZYX v4 compared to VBar v5.3: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8380
V4.01 for the ZYX and ZYX-S: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7092 - See this also: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7206
-V4.01 has separate versions for helicopter/airplane and quadcopter. The heli/plane version does not initialize the servos until after the gyro initializes to avoid a servo kick.
-Safe v4 upgrade steps: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7608
V3.50 for the ZYX and the ZYX-S: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4014 - PLEASE READ THIS ALSO: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4039
The new Tarot ZYX-S and ZYX v3.0: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1843
John_nz's PC application and information: http://fbl.net.nz/

!!! NOT HOT !!!
-None of the ZYX/ZYX-S tools (bluetooth adapter, program box, PC app) work with the ZYX-S2
-Fusuno canopies. Poor customer service and very slow to ship. It would seem their canopies all come from Vietnam. When it did finally arrive they had also forgotten to put the 4 mounting holes in the canopy, and had not provided any grommets.
-Compass Warp 360. Poor inconsistent quality, causing crashes.
-xmseller/xmhobbies/CNC helicopter. They say you only find out how good a company is when something goes wrong. I found out. :(

It's come to my attention that people don't want to post in this thread, because they think their question is too simple or should be obvious. Quite the contrary! Hey, we all had to start with zero knowledge of FBL and FBL controllers and we don't all have time to search the entire forum, so please, no matter how simple you think your question is, ask away. There are a lot of kind people subscribed to this thread that are happy to share their knowledge of FBL with you. Look forward to your post. David :)

NEW STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!
What's in the box: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=22
Installed in a 250: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=29
Setting the limits: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=402
Flight report: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=30, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=43
Flight video 500EFL Pro: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=830

Tail/yaw settings: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1836

My 250SE with DFC setup file: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=3402
My 450 Pro setup file: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2986

Spektrum/JR Rx connection diagram: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=796

ZYX-S Binding instructions:
Video (thanks bionicbone): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10185

What's inside the Tarot ZYX (thanks Desmogod): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=95

37 x 25 x 13

Cyclic timings: (thanks eagle777)

bionicbone's howto Downloading, unzipping and Installing all the required software: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10076
Arey's getting started tips: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=3286
sp00fman's basic beginners steps: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5795
Dr.M's advanced tuning and troubleshooting: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=485789
My recommended initial setup: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9064
raven_darkcloud's installation and setup manual: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9173
IFHELI's Quad setup: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9447
Dr.M's 3D plane settings: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10031
2Doggs USB driver installed correctly: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9788
wc_wickedclown's bank switching video: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=10756

Setup video using the Tx (thanks ZeroPitch): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=308

Setup guide for PC App and flybarless conversion: (a big thanks to sgbfly/Simon)
Part 1 to 5: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2311

Flight video 250 (thanks MikeHRC): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=62
Flight video 250 (thanks queadlunnrau): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=269
Flight video miniTitan (thanks RaptorTechnique): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=53
Flight video Blade 400 (thanks ZeroPitch): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=229
Flight videos Trex 450 (thanks zhnme523): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1712
Flight video Trex 550 (thanks pitchp) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1975
Flight video Trex 600 (thanks unochen): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=477
Flight video Trex 700 (thanks unochen): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=311
Flight videos (thanks pitchp): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1629287

Flight video Trex 700 (thanks pitchp): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5012

ZYX/ZYX-S v3.5
Flight video 450 (thanks peter24): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7668
Flight video 450 SE (thanks pani): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5023
Flight video Trex 500 (thanks DerClown) : http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5685
Flight video Protos 500: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4823
Flight video Gaui X5: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4674
Flight video Trex 550 (thanks pitchp): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4275
Flight video M-3D 600: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=4340
Flight video Logo 600SX: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=5539

ZYX/ZYX-S v4.0
Flight video 450 (thanks sp00fman): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7244
Flight video 450 Sport: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7322
Flight video 450 (thanks sgbfly): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7323
Flight video 450 (thanks wc_wickedclown): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2288
Flight video 450 (thanks wc_wickedclown): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8965
Flight video Mini Protos (thanks Sp00fman): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=9171
Flight video Protos 500 (thanks pani): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7554 & http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=7564
Flight video Logo 400: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8977
Flight video Logo 550SX: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8035
Flight video Logo 700 Extreme (thanks pitchp): http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=8390

John_nz's PC application and information:
Main site: http://fbl.net.nz/
Information: http://fbl.net.nz/info

USB/Bluetooth link PC software:

USB Link tips:
1/ Make sure the USB link is assigned a COMs port of 4 or less (COM1, COM2, COM3, or COM4). This is done in device manager.
2/ The gyro must also be initialized to connect (Tx and Rx on and the single red or blue LED lit on the gyro).

PC Connection issues:
Thanks JetPlaneFlyer: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=6522

Windows 8:
Thanks ahamay: Post 6420, Post 6444 & Post 6454
Thanks pitchp: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=6445

Advanced Manual: (thanks to Dave Settle and Jaakko Haavisto)

Wiki Page: (thanks RobinBennett)

Firmware updates (gyro and program box):
See here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1568592

Tarot ZYX: http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/p...oducts_id=7609
Tarot ZYX-S: http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/p...oducts_id=8201
Tarot USB Link: http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/p...oducts_id=7935
Tarot Program Box: http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/p...oducts_id=7853

Tarot ZYX with 250 head: http://www.oomodel.com/tarot-zyx-3-a...2-p-61906.html (NOTE: I prefer the Align DFC head now)
Tarot ZYX with 450 head: http://www.oomodel.com/tarot-zyx-zyx...d-p-61907.html
Tarot ZYX with 500 head: http://www.oomodel.com/tarot-zyx-3-a...d-p-61851.html

Note: These are just links for reference material. They are not necessarily the best prices or best service available.

#2 beenflying Sep 25, 2011 10:07 PM

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Looks like it could be this Helicox TG-1 rebadged to Tarot:

Attachment 4305780 Attachment 4305790 Attachment 4305791


#3 pitchp Sep 26, 2011 04:32 AM

How much is it BF?

#4 beenflying Sep 26, 2011 04:40 AM

I'm not sure what price the Tarot one is going to be. The Helicox TG-1 appears to be $98 from Hobby-Wing, but that doesn't appear to include the programmer. The strange thing is, I can't find the programmer listed on it's own, so perhaps the text in the listing is wrong.

#5 pitchp Sep 26, 2011 06:52 PM

i guess we'll find out the price in about a weeks time. infinity-hobby has them aswell

#6 cap231ex Sep 30, 2011 08:16 PM

Saw it too , been you going to test this one when it's avalible?

#7 beenflying Sep 30, 2011 08:44 PM

I'm no sure yet. It probably depends on how well the ALZRC unit flies. The 3GYS gyro on it's own is going to be pretty cheap, and I like how it works so far, but it all means nothing if it doesn't fly well.

#8 beenflying Sep 30, 2011 10:04 PM

Infinity Hobby have put up a video:

I don't see the cable tie in the installation hardware pack. ;)

#9 jockstrap Oct 01, 2011 12:12 AM

The Tarot one has 3 LEDs on it thou? So there are some differences ?

Maybe just a newer model..

#10 ridge_racer Oct 01, 2011 02:58 PM

I love all this. Maybe once I go FBL to reduce repair time between crashes, I'll be more compelled to fly my heli more...

#11 emberjelly Oct 09, 2011 09:17 PM

Any news on the release date yet?

#12 Desmogod Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM

Mid October according to infinity.

#13 pitchp Oct 10, 2011 12:20 AM

looks good on the big birds. I hope it will perform just as good on the small birds. :D

TAROT ZYX 3axis Gyro Test (3 min 16 sec)

#14 pitchp Oct 12, 2011 06:43 AM

I might try this one day



TAROT ZYX 3AXIS GYRO with Trex 250 FL TEST (5 min 6 sec)

#15 cap231ex Oct 12, 2011 01:11 PM

Not a bad price , and seems to include the 250 FBL head as well.

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