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#1 kanai Aug 06, 2011 10:02 PM

Bird type airplane
 
It is a glider which does not have a vertical tail like a bird.
This bird changes a camber and circles.
http://www.youtube.com/user/inakakoubou#p/a

#2 nono1928 Aug 07, 2011 05:05 AM

Thank you very much for the link to your channel!

#3 kanai Aug 07, 2011 07:32 AM

today
 
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It is a test flight in last week and a mountain.
It has painted and flown today.

#4 kanai Aug 07, 2011 09:09 AM

methods
 
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I have developed the bird type airplane without a vertical tail from ten years before.
The methods of circling are two methods, split aileron and camber aileron.

http://www.youtube.com/user/inakakou.../1/KYrgAvATo_g

#5 Kinkade Aug 07, 2011 01:58 PM

Kanai,

Nice models you have there, but you say you developed these..are you not aware of Bob Hoey's bird models? He was making models like this in the late 80's, early 90's.
Plans were published in various RC magazines I think.

Here's his beautiful turkey vulture model...

R/C Turkey Vulture Flying With Real Vultures (9 min 30 sec)


I would really like to build one of these and simply make it flap for aesthetics even if it didn't produce thrust. With the double surface ribbed airplane style wing they glide really well.

#6 nono1928 Aug 07, 2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kinkade (Post 18980134)
I would really like to build one of these and simply make it flap for aesthetics even if it didn't produce thrust.

That's my plan too :)

#7 G-LO Aug 08, 2011 03:04 AM

Hi Mr.Kanai! Welcome to Rcgroups..finally! I'm a subscriber to your YouTube channel, Valkyry5. I have always been a fan since my brother told me about you a few years ago.

I was so impressed of you work that I'm trying to attempt to try it on my epp falcon.

Its really grand to see you here on the ornithopter thread, but I think your contribution and help would be very appropriated here on this thread.... ;) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=950519

However you've came to the right place to converse with a person you have subscribed to and that is "Bluefalconholland" or "Avisfactisus". That's Robert Musters. And Kazu-kaku or Kazuhiko kakuta.
I'm glad you've made it to our neck of the woods. Welcome.

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#8 khaled_abobakr Aug 08, 2011 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkade (Post 18980134)
Kanai,

Nice models you have there, but you say you developed these..are you not aware of Bob Hoey's bird models? He was making models like this in the late 80's, early 90's.
Plans were published in various RC magazines I think.

Here's his beautiful turkey vulture model...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLHpQAoS61k

I would really like to build one of these and simply make it flap for aesthetics even if it didn't produce thrust. With the double surface ribbed airplane style wing they glide really well.

I can imagine you casting your NODS spell upon such a bird and make it flap really like a real vulture ... ;) ... Come on ... I'm still waiting .. :)

Khaled

#9 kanai Aug 08, 2011 06:49 AM

The 1st method, split aileron
 
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Thank you for the information.
I had not seen this video.
Development of my bird type airplane started in 2002.
At first, although it was the method of moving wind end wings, this was able to turn only at a few.
Then, I investigated the frame of the bird and considered how to move by a frame.
Then, I thought of how a bird is stale about the back of wings.
By this method, rapid revolution became possible.
This method is split aileron.
http://www.youtube.com/user/inakakou...20/P0wcXZQUVdA

However, by the method of a split aileron, revolution of the sea gull with the thin point of wings is well impossible.
Now, the method of circling by the method of changing a camber was added.
I think that a camber aileron system becomes the method of using by a flapping-of-wings mechanism.

#10 SkyNet Aug 08, 2011 11:16 AM

Welcome to the "flock"
 
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Originally Posted by G-LO (Post 18985904)
Hi Mr.Kanai! Welcome to Rcgroups..
...I have always been a fan

I second that!!!
I'm a subscriber myself (HDfoodie). I've been downloading copies since the "Oiseau rc" clips =)

In case you (or any others here) are interested - some old links:
http://www.pbs.org/saf/1109/video/watchonline.htm
Click on "PLAY VIDEO" for the "Is It a Bird?" segment.
The segment is really about Paul MacCready but
it shows Bob actually flying the Vulture (0:00-1:15)
and gives a brief explanation of how wingtip ailerons work (3:10-4:25)

Then there's the TWITT pages for
The Turkey Vulture:
http://www.twitt.org/1partdrib.html
The Seagull:
http://www.twitt.org/2partdrib.html
The Pelican:
http://www.twitt.org/3partdrib.html
and The Raven too:
http://www.twitt.org/BirdLtrPics.html
http://www.twitt.org/BirdLetters.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkade (Post 18980134)
Plans were published in various RC magazines I think.

Plans for the Raven
Plans for the Turkey Vulture

I bought the Vulture plans years ago, but life caught up with me and I never had the chance to build it.
Maybe this winter I might have the time....
...unless I come across one Sean's birds first!!!:D

#11 G-LO Aug 08, 2011 11:58 AM

This is very good! :) This guy Lee Aston welcome All type of bird plane on his thread.Matter of fact I had posted several of Kanai's YouTube footage on his "Epp Falcon/dragon & fff eagles" thread http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=950519. BUT, if nobody mind having it here, I don't mind either :). Bring it on!

But take a look at Lee's thread and y'all please share what you like ...
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#12 G-LO Aug 08, 2011 12:13 PM

Hey this guy Scpeng55555 is ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE TOO! I Love you BOTH!! CHECK. THIS OUT:popcorn::cool:
2010-01-02 朝陽飛場 地面測試無動力像真鷹機1 (0 min 37 sec)


I don't know, but it seems -to me- that everyone from different parts of the world came up with the same system:confused::D I guess great minds think alike;).

#13 khaled_abobakr Aug 08, 2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-LO (Post 18989352)
Hey this guy Scpeng55555 is ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE TOO! I Love you BOTH!! CHECK. THIS OUT:popcorn::cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYJOe...e_gdata_player

I don't know, but it seems -to me- that everyone from different parts of the world came up with the same system:confused::D I guess great minds think alike;).

Hi G-LO

It looks so alive with all these control surfaces moving independently ...:)

Khaled

#14 kanai Aug 21, 2011 08:24 AM

Tombi2011
 
TOMBI2011 has been flown yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/user/inakakou.../0/-BSp622YT4E

#15 seagull10 Aug 21, 2011 11:06 AM

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