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#1 JGuilty13 Mar 22, 2011 02:50 PM

HobbyKing CL-415 Canadair 1390mm wingspan Foam Kit
 
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Just wondering if you guys have seen this kit yet? Personally Im going to wait till the US warehouse gets it in stock.

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...dProduct=16548

#2 gotime242 Mar 22, 2011 03:18 PM

Wow, i havnt seen that. Id like to hear how it flys.

#3 ggtronic Mar 22, 2011 09:54 PM

subscribed... ordered... will sea ;) :popcorn:

#4 kensp Mar 23, 2011 05:38 AM

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I plan to order one tomorrow morning. I have previously scratch built a 52 in span Catalina and converted a GWS Islander to a seaplane.

When I built and flew the Islander conversion I thought that I would like a larger seaplane of similar configuration and the CL-415 immediately came to mind. Now this kit looks to be just what I want.

Ken

#5 ggtronic Mar 23, 2011 07:21 AM

The New Canadair CL-415 Water Bomber Amphibious Plane (9 min 2 sec)

#6 kensp Mar 23, 2011 07:39 AM

ggtronic

Thank you for posting the video. If I had not made the decision to buy before watching the video then I would definitely be buying it now. It flies a bit faster than my Catalina but not by too much.

Ken

#7 ggtronic Mar 23, 2011 08:04 AM

oh and congrag on your black catalina... looks great !

agree with you... seems little heavy thus flying faster :confused:
maybe 1100g AUW ?

I want to fly it in FPV mode so weight is important !

i`m totaly sold to this plane since i live
40km away from the BOMBARDIER plant !
http://www.bombardier.com/en/aerospa...01260d80018aa7

Oh & thanks to Saucisse down here who actually find this plane
and gave hint to me !

#8 saucisse Mar 23, 2011 08:50 AM

Thanks for posting the video my friend! I also have one coming in (ordered yesterday morning) so cannot to put my fpv gear on it and go to the lake!

#9 baddb1 Mar 23, 2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ggtronic (Post 17762164)

Nice plane!:D I wonder what the Nitroplanes.com price will be..?

This looks like it flies very similar to my Catalina, which is one of my favorites! I guess I now have something to spend my tax refund on!! :cool:

#10 hpiguy Mar 23, 2011 04:54 PM

I started a thread about this in the Parkflyer forum as well when I got the HK email.

Cool plane.

#11 kensp Mar 23, 2011 05:04 PM

My 415 has been ordered. I chose the following to go in it.

TURNIGY Bell TR2410-12Y 1000kv Outrunner http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=6664

HobbyKing 12A BlueSeries Brushless Speed Controller http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11429

HobbyKing Micro UBEC 3A / 5v http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=15212

HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...?idproduct=662

I plan to fit GWS 9 x 5 DD propellers which are the same diameter as the ones used in the Nitroplanes video. http://www.gwsprops.com/direct_drive.htm

Once the Model is shipped I will purchase some ZIPPY Flightmax 2200mAh 3S1P 20C batteries from the Hobby King Australian warehouse http://www.hobbyking.com/unitedhobbi...dProduct=16753 It should take about 2 weeks for the kit to arrive.

Ken

#12 kensp Mar 23, 2011 06:40 PM

I have looked on the Nitroplanes web site to try to find more details of the CL-415 but it is not yet on their site. They did list a similar size Catalina kit that is priced at US$44.95 http://www.nitroplanes.com/4chcararecoe.html

Ken

#13 ggtronic Mar 23, 2011 07:51 PM

hello Kensp

i`m not shure your 12A esc will keep up ?
sometime its better to use higher amp in case of
motor upgrade (your motor description ask for 20ampESC)

i already had a twin power setup in stock to built something else...

motor: 40g 9$ http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo...4&productname=

i may use 8x4.7 prop to limit max amp to 18 ?

ESC : 18g 10$ http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?gOo...8&productname=

this combo should provide 300w peak to retrieve that
ship from water...

#14 kensp Mar 23, 2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ggtronic (Post 17768337)
hello Kensp

i`m not shure your 12A esc will keep up ?
sometime its better to use higher amp in case of
motor upgrade (your motor description ask for 20ampESC)

I normally prop my motors to run at half the rated maximum Watts. Then they tend to last longer and run at higher efficiencies.

For my set up MotoCalc predicts a current draw of 8.3 Amps per motor, a 1:1 thrust ratio and a top speed of 2 1/2 time the stall speed. In my opinion to go for more performance will give lower efficiency and so waste energy. Going to an Amp draw of 12.5 amps will drop the efficiency of the motor from 70% down to 42%. The power losses will rise from 26 watts to 77.5 watts and most of these losses are caused by heat generation. So the motor temperature will rise from around 100 deg F to 400 deg F.

Ken

#15 Rudi Mar 24, 2011 02:01 AM

Hi Guys,

I build a lot of wonderful models (included a CL-415) and I enjoyed every second of building and flying but I was never able to build one for 38.- bucks :eek: I ordered one just for summer fun :eek:on our wonderful lakes here in austria:cool:

Rudi

Thx for the video !!!!


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