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#1 SGTalon Jul 12, 2010 01:17 AM

Enterprise-A - 1:300 Scale =) - Kit and plans now available!
 
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So i have been seeing a lot of people trying out the Constitution Class Enterprise and not having a lot of luck getting it to fly. I thought it would be worth a shot to see what i can do.... Not that i don't have enough to do!

Doing basically the same controls i have on the Enterprise-D. Aileron and Elevator on the lower hull. I put a nice long - 3" elevator on there.

Saucer is 22" Dia, 46" Long. Should weigh in the neighborhood of 15-17 oz. Probably use the Towerpro 2409-12T like i did on the D. Now it is the Turnigy L2210-1650

Anyhow. Just spent a couple hours putting together a design. I will try to get to the build sometime soon.

Check it out!

Kits and Plans are now available!

Here is the link to the Build Instructions
http://www.sg-ideas.com/linked/enter...structions.pdf

*******Recommended Hardware********
2.6oz 250w Motor and Speed Control with 8x6 prop Turnigy L2210-1650 - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...tor_250w_.html
Going to need some connectors for the motor and esc - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...irs_20pc_.html
Servos - Hextronic 9g and 5g servo (1 of each) - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...cro_Servo.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...cro_Servo.html
Battery - 2200 Mah 3s 11.1v LiPo http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html
Radio Hardware - Any 3 channel or higher radio will work
*********Build Materials*********
Carbon Tube for foam Reinforcement - 4mm OD x 3mm ID x 750mm long - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...w_4x750mm.html
Carbon Tube for nacelle support 3mm x 2mm Tube - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...3x2x750mm.html
Carbon Flat for Saucer Reinforcement - 1mm x 6mm or so. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...5pcs_set_.html
Gorilla Glue
Razor Knife / Single Edge Safety Razor Blades
Pushrod Wire - i usually use .037 but you can use any size you like
Control Horns - I usually make my own from old credit cards.
Hinge Tape - I use 3m Fiber tape 1/2" wide and make overlapping hinge strips. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=16

#2 springer Jul 12, 2010 08:52 AM

Ok, a wierd idea: What if you hinged the leading edge of the saucer and did kind of a canard thing?

#3 SGTalon Jul 12, 2010 09:41 AM

I have found with these planes that it is really just a Nutball that has a tail.

The saucer is the whole wing, the stuf hanging off the back just acts like the feathers of an arrow. They just keep it going straight. I can alter the trajectory of the plane a bit by moving some control surfaces in the back but the main stuff happens with the saucer.

At least i think so!

A lot of people seem to be having trouble with controlling the Old Enterprise. I just want to see if i can solve some of those problems. The D seems to work great! You saw it. It just flies like a regular plane.

I am not sure when i am going to get a chance to build this guy with how busy i am but i am going to try.

#4 rcshirt Jul 12, 2010 12:23 PM

:popcorn:

#5 PaulDaniel Jul 12, 2010 12:28 PM

Like this:
Star Trek Enterprise RC plane (2 min 0 sec)

#6 SGTalon Jul 12, 2010 12:44 PM

I've seen that one. I hate that the engine nacelles are attached to the saucer! It totally takes away the realistic look of it.

It does fly nice through. I think adding the extra horizontal to the lower hull along with the nacelles and pylons will help keep the level flight going. By adding the ailerons it will be very controllable.... at least that is my theory :)

#7 zedz Jul 12, 2010 01:39 PM

SG, I don't know if it's been tried or not but what if you make the lower body a tube and put a edf in it vs the prop?

#8 SGTalon Jul 12, 2010 02:43 PM

Hey Zedz!

It would never work for a few reasons. #1 is the balance! The CG on this guy is gong to be right behind the prop slot or maybe a little farther forward!

The other reason is i think i am going to need the flat surface there to help with lift. That is also where i am putting my elevator.

After building the first Enterprise-D i found that the CG is much farther forward than i thought.

#9 mastrsn Sep 19, 2010 09:23 AM

TOS Version
 
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Here are some plans that I dug up on the web of the TOS Version. When printed, they will give you a 12" saucer. A Tower Pro 21 should be ample power for it and the size comparison to SGTalon's Enterpise-D should be real close to "scale". Whit some cleaning up, they should be good for skins as well.

#10 mastrsn Sep 19, 2010 11:42 AM

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Using model rocket body tubes for the engines, this is how I'm planning to build it.

#11 SGTalon Sep 19, 2010 04:18 PM

Looks scary Mastrsn! Rockets? 2? Holy crap that is going to be insane!

Make sure you do glide tests before you let it fly. You want to be sure you can at least control it a little!

#12 mastrsn Sep 19, 2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SGTalon (Post 16090363)
Looks scary Mastrsn! Rockets? 2? Holy crap that is going to be insane!

Make sure you do glide tests before you let it fly. You want to be sure you can at least control it a little!

You've said that once before about this design. NO ROCKETS! You can buy the Body Tubes the Estes rockets are made of. They come in different sizes. I figure a hollow body tube about the same size as the TOS' warp engines might be aerodynamic enough to help with flight. I.E.- my "Hoopster Stick"

Hoopster Stick pt 2 (4 min 9 sec)

#13 SumthinsFishy Sep 19, 2010 07:38 PM

Looks like a fun plane to me!

#14 SGTalon Mar 22, 2012 12:26 PM

Construction of NCC-1701-A Commencing
 
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With the arrival of my Model Plane Foam, I now have a large supply of pure white foam to build planes!

Well this is just dying for me to build my Enterprise-A.

So here goes.

I tweaked the design a little. I increased the size of the non-saucer horizontal surfaces by about 20% to help with lift in the tail.

Here are the templates ready to go. It is pretty big! Nacelles are much bigger than the -D or Voyager.

I will be cutting it out tonight!

Stevo! How about a decal kit?

Pretty excited about this one.

#15 scousethief Mar 22, 2012 12:49 PM

Should work perfectly fine the Enterprise glider on youtube uses the same control method and that flies very nicely in the vid


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