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#1 sebbe Jul 01, 2010 07:43 AM

Futaba fasst compatible receivers ?
 
Have you heard anything about it, a link maybee ?

I know they are comming out soon, should be a bit cheeper the Futaba original.

#2 Fly2High Jul 01, 2010 07:54 AM

I had gotten emails from FrSky stating they were working on a FASST compatible Rx but nothing is listed on their website.

#3 Silent-AV8R Jul 01, 2010 07:55 AM

Not sure what you are asking/saying here. I think it is unlikely that there will be after market non-Futaba FASST receivers. FASST is a proprietary technology that Futaba is very unlikely to license other companies to make.

So what have you heard about??

OK, just saw the post above mine. I'll stick with the known quality of Futaba. I wonder if FrSky is authorized by Futaba or not?

#4 pda4you Jul 01, 2010 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent-AV8R (Post 15443549)
Not sure what you are asking/saying here. I think it is unlikely that there will be after market non-Futaba FASST receivers. FASST is a proprietary technology that Futaba is very unlikely to license other companies to make.

Just ask Spektrum how well that has worked for them. :( DSM is as well, but has been copied, produced and sold here in the US.

Sadly it is a fact of the global economy, and the simple fact that not all play by the rules.

#5 Fly2High Jul 01, 2010 08:17 AM

To me it is a good thing. It will force the manufacturers to re-evaluate their prices and bring these things closer to reality.

If they do come out, I will finally be able to afford a FASST radio and receiver!

#6 LAN Jul 01, 2010 08:20 AM

Here are links for the Simprop compatible ones:
http://www.simprop.de/Seiten/Modellb...1GigaScan5.htm
http://www.simprop.de/Seiten/Modellb...9GigaScan7.htm

According to a post on a Swedish forum, these receivers uses OEM chips from Futaba, and in that case they appear to be licensed. Since Simprop is a German company, I would suspect that they made sure they are not violating any patents. The pricing of these are very close to Futaba's own receivers.

I would suspect many Futaba users are waiting for clones or copies from China, and I guess this is what the OP is asking for.

/Leif

#7 swede-rcgroups Jul 01, 2010 08:39 AM

There was a breif reference to a Futaba RX copy coming to Hobbyking but I looked on the HK site just now and can't find it. Who knows when it will come out and how long the first batch will last at HK. They will sell out quickly.

S

#8 Fly2High Jul 01, 2010 09:01 AM

To me, Transmitters are like game consoles now. The manufacturer makes little on them. It is the receiver where the real money is made now that everyone is propietary.

These small outfits are merely looking to get in on the piece of the pie.

To me, spektrum is all over because they were first with a 'regular joe' system (not a ,'I'm a hollywood model maker on a custom system'). That is why they are everywhere.

Maybe by allowing for 3rd party manufacturing, they will better be able get their radios out there and take up more of the market. Spektrum is doing it . My guess is to hold their share of the market.

Once you own a Futaba, you will sometime spend the extra for that special plane for a Futaba made Rx. Some will have a bad experience on the cheap stuff and now be forced to get OEM stuff. Either way, I see it as a win-win situation.

I think this is why Atx and Hitec have kept their prices for stuff low. If there is little markup, 3rd parties will be less likely to make Rxs and they will be in better control. Also, if price is the driving factor, you can start from the beginning with a better pricepoint on Rxs with them.

I don't know about you but I use plenty of 3rd party Rxs for 72mHz. Why, cheaper, lighter and in some cases better than what the OEM was selling. It also offer options for the Tx user.

they each have their own marketing strategy. time will tell which is best....

#9 John Kim Jul 01, 2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent-AV8R (Post 15443549)
I wonder if FrSky is authorized by Futaba or not?

It is not a license production nor clone. It will be an independently developed receiver compatible with Futaba.

As long as compatible receiver is not a copy of Futaba, it does not violate patent. Anyone can receive the braodcast on air wave with own receiver.

#10 RC Man Jul 01, 2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kim (Post 15444927)
It is not a license production nor clone. It will be an independently developed receiver compatible with Futaba.

As long as compatible receiver is not a copy of Futaba, it does not violate patent. Anyone can receive the braodcast on air wave with own receiver.

Its mainly software so I would expect to see receivers from China that will be compatible with various Transmitters. It only a matter of time until they get it working.

I agree as long as they are independently developed receivers they are not violating any laws. However if they just copy the hardware and firmware then it may not be legal in all countries.


:)

#11 Fly2High Jul 01, 2010 02:55 PM

What I would be interested to see is if FrSky makes FASST rxs if they will be making a FASST module too.

#12 Silent-AV8R Jul 01, 2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pda4you (Post 15443609)
Just ask Spektrum how well that has worked for them. :( DSM is as well, but has been copied, produced and sold here in the US.

Sadly it is a fact of the global economy, and the simple fact that not all play by the rules.

I was speaking of authorized use, not stolen. If people are OK buying clearly stolen or illegally copied technology, then I guess that is up to them.

#13 renatoa Jul 02, 2010 07:09 AM

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Ok, if no more a secret, then lets have a picture "leaked" :)

Fly2High, yes, there will be a module too, to benefit from FrSky telemetry.
This way Futaba guys will enter in the telemetry world :p

#14 Fly2High Jul 02, 2010 07:13 AM

RENATOA,
They have a hint listed on their updated website too

no major info though....

#15 RC Man Jul 02, 2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RENATOA (Post 15450941)
Ok, if no more a secret, then lets have a picture "leaked" :)

Fly2High, yes, there will be a module too, to benefit from FrSky telemetry.
This way Futaba guys will enter in the telemetry world :p

Can someone explain how telemetry works? Does it use the same 2.4 frequency hopping scheme as the FASST transmitter or is it on another band?


:popcorn:


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