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#1 jkarpy Feb 22, 2007 11:22 AM

SLOW-STICK X Build (Original)
 
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This is the start of the Slow Stick X Build thread. The intention of the thread is to cover both the kit and ARF version. Post number one will serve as an index to the body of this thread and other related threads. Post number one can change daily as new information and ideas are available. Relevant posts are any thing related directly to the Slow Stick X or any product that can be used with the Slow Stick X.

Slow Stick X links

Slow Stick X with Floats
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=707903
Slow Stick X in Flight
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=Slow+Stick+X
Build Video Part 1 (Wing)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=Slow+Stick+X

Build Video Part 2 (Tail Feathers)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652409

Slow Stick X in Flight
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=Slow+Stick+X

Flying indoor at Perry
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651528


Slow Stick X Specifications

Wing Dimensions: Length trailing edge 43 leading edge 39.5 Width 12

Wing Cord: Full symmetrical constant cord and is 2 at its widest point.

Wing Weight: without a servo installed and covered with a light model covering the wing weighs approximately 6 7/8 oz

Total Model flying weight: without a battery installed the plane weighs between 16 and 20 oz, depending on your setup. Keep it light for best performance!

Flight Characteristics: The Slow Stick X Can fly slow or fast. It has an extremely slow stall speed yet it is a fully aerobatic model. The SSX also flies well in windy conditions. Inverted flight characteristics are also excellent. When balanced properly the SSX will fly inverted as well as it does upright.
The Slow Stick X is an excellent model for novice to expert pilots. It is an extremely versatile model. On low rates the model can be docile and easy to fly. On high rates it can be an extreme stunt machine.
Motor
Sport class: 740Kv -1000Kv Brushless Outrunner with 10-3/8 APC SF prop
Extreme Flight: 4200 KV Brushless Inrunner Geared 7.6:1 with 12-6 APC SF prop or Hacker A20-22L with a 10-4.7 SF prop

Battery recommend 1320 mah 3 cell LiPO Note: other batteries will work as long as the model is balanced.
I have flown this model on the stock GWS setup using Nimh batteries with some successes. However, I do not recommend it for acrobatics.


Balancing
Always balance with the battery you will fly with. If you go to a lighter battery, you will need to rebalance. When balancing, just move the wing and plastic mounts forward or aft. The balance point is at the spar. I would also recommend placing your servos and receiver toward the tail section when the model is nose heavy. Never add weight to balance when you can just change the position of components. Keep the wing leading edge 5.5 6 inches from the front tip of the fuselage stick. It is also a good idea to balance the wing tip to tip.

Note: Recent testing has shown that the CG can be pushed back slightly. This will improve inverted flight and hovering. I have been balancing with the side of my fingers touching the trailing edge of the spar.

Covering

Recommended covering: Solite is the lightest. However, it punctures easily. I like to use transparent Ultracote. I use Monokote for my travel models because of its durability. The model flies well with almost any covering.

MAIN WING: Tack all four corners first; just like you are putting a sheet on a bed. Keep wrinkles to a minimum. Use low heat just in case you mess-up. This way you can pull the covering off and start over. Then tack the middle leading and trailing edge. Next tack the middle tip and middle/center of the center decking. Now turn the heat up. Run the iron up the main spar and start pulling the covering over the leading and trailing edge while ironing it down. Save the wing tips for last. I typically have about 2 of overhang on the covering when doing the wing. After you trim it off, you can use the leftover for the ailerons.

Wing Tips: I use a heat gun at high setting and divide the wrinkles evenly throughout the wing tip. I then use the heat to shrink out the wrinkles. At the same time I am pulling and stretching around the wing tip edge. I also use my fingers to brace the wing tip to prevent it from breaking. Use your thumb and index finger to grip the covering and the remaining fingers push the opposite side of the tip you are covering. If you have a hot grip glove it helps. Ultra cote is best, but you should be able to get good results with Monokote. The yellow plane below is covered with Monokote.



Slow Stick / Slow Stick X improvements
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=10

#2 MustangAce17 Feb 22, 2007 11:46 AM

j,let me know when u get the ARF out,It was lots of fun to fly at night at Ocala :D Kyle

#3 jkarpy Feb 22, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MustangAce17
j,let me know when u get the ARF out,It was lots of fun to fly at night at Ocala :D Kyle

Wow! you found this Thread quick. I just started it today. Sorry I did not make it back to Ocala Sunday. It was just too windy.

Graves will have ARF kits soon.

#4 MustangAce17 Feb 22, 2007 02:22 PM

no prob J,Sunday was cancelled,looks like a trip to graves will be in store soon!

#5 Team3D Feb 24, 2007 10:13 AM

I want one please :D

I owned a slow stick ever since it came out. My dad, me, and my brother have taught many people on it. Right now I fly (almost) pattern and also 3D. This design really caught me be suprise. I like it very much. My dad owns a castle creation mamba and I think it would go great with this plane. I think this plane will also be a big fun-fly hit. I know I am hook on this plane and I will be watching this thread very closely for updates and ect. I am hooked thats all I can say....


Team3d

#6 roidspop Feb 24, 2007 12:57 PM

I've built a wing similar to this one; it has half-span ailerons, dual servos, a sort of "booster-chair" arrangement to get the wing up high enough to clear the rudder and elevator servos. It is really astonishing what it has done for the old Stick. It is without a doubt my favorite plane now; I've got about 120 flights on it and it's the one I reach for time after time. I'd go for full-span ailerons if I were to rebuild it, and I'd probably make the airfoil thinner for a little better speed and climb, but as it is it's turned the Stick into a wonderful plane...very aerobatic, loves flying inverted, very tight turning radius, a little faster than the conventional wing, but floaty and easy to land.

So 3D, GET ONE! You'll just love it.

#7 jkarpy Feb 24, 2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team3D
I want one please :D

I owned a slow stick ever since it came out. My dad, me, and my brother have taught many people on it. Right now I fly (almost) pattern and also 3D. This design really caught me be suprise. I like it very much. My dad owns a castle creation mamba and I think it would go great with this plane. I think this plane will also be a big fun-fly hit. I know I am hook on this plane and I will be watching this thread very closely for updates and ect. I am hooked thats all I can say....


Team3d

Thanks for the interest, you can buy one from Millennium R/C

http://www.flyerc.com

#8 jkarpy Feb 24, 2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roidspop
I've built a wing similar to this one; it has half-span ailerons, dual servos, a sort of "booster-chair" arrangement to get the wing up high enough to clear the rudder and elevator servos. It is really astonishing what it has done for the old Stick. It is without a doubt my favorite plane now; I've got about 120 flights on it and it's the one I reach for time after time. I'd go for full-span ailerons if I were to rebuild it, and I'd probably make the airfoil thinner for a little better speed and climb, but as it is it's turned the Stick into a wonderful plane...very aerobatic, loves flying inverted, very tight turning radius, a little faster than the conventional wing, but floaty and easy to land.

So 3D, GET ONE! You'll just love it.

Do you have a picture?

#9 jkarpy Feb 24, 2007 10:13 PM

Slow Stick X instructions
 
Here are the latest Instructions for Slow Stick X wing kit.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...05&postcount=1

#10 jkarpy Feb 25, 2007 08:57 AM

Slow Stick / Slow Stick X improvements
 
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One minor design flaw in the original Slow Stick is that the rubber band posts are too short.
Using 5/32 aluminum tubing, cut 4 3/8 long pieces. Use thick CA glue and glue them to the existing rubber band posts of the original Slow Stick wing saddles. Make sure you do not leave sharp edges that can cut the rubber bands. I like to fill the tube with thick CA and leave a bead at the top of the tube. If you do not have a tubing cutter, you can use an Exacto knife in a rolling action to cut the tubing.







Return to build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...92#post6970305

#11 _Lunchbox_ Mar 04, 2007 05:45 PM

I regret I didn't get to see Ryan fly this at Perry, but I was too busy helping the crew at Hodges hobbies out..... I was able to score a kit though, and I'll start my build very soon.. I'm ready to do it! That thing looked great!!!

#12 jkarpy Mar 04, 2007 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstone
I regret I didn't get to see Ryan fly this at Perry, but I was too busy helping the crew at Hodges hobbies out..... I was able to score a kit though, and I'll start my build very soon.. I'm ready to do it! That thing looked great!!!

Thanks, be sure to watch my build video. Here is a link to my build tread. Keep an Eye open for more stuff this week. I look forward to seeing you guys at SEFF.

#13 Tha Hodgehound Mar 04, 2007 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstone
I regret I didn't get to see Ryan fly this at Perry, but I was too busy helping the crew at Hodges hobbies out..... I was able to score a kit though, and I'll start my build very soon.. I'm ready to do it! That thing looked great!!!


Hey!!!! you didn't score a kit for the old original stock Slow Stick master???? Whaddup wid dat??? :( :p Might have to get one of those. Looks like a great night flyer! Hmmm...night combat???
jkarpy..will you have some kits at SEFF???

#14 jkarpy Mar 04, 2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hodgehound
Hey!!!! you didn't score a kit for the old original stock Slow Stick master???? Whaddup wid dat??? :( :p Might have to get one of those. Looks like a great night flyer! Hmmm...night combat???
jkarpy..will you have some kits at SEFF???

This is my night flyer. I use Align rope lights that highlight the leading edge and wing tip. I also have a blinking LED on the tail and a pair of landing lights under the wing. The landing lights are switched and light up the runway nicely. I will have it at SEFF. The carbon fiber is fake, I used the Ultra cote carbon fiber look alike. I will have kits at SEFF and I am working hard to try and have my ARF kits ready for SEFF.

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/index.p...sort=2a&page=3
Horizon sells them.

#15 Tha Hodgehound Mar 05, 2007 03:59 PM

cool man! Might just have to get 1 from ya!


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