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#1 FairlyFaded Apr 03, 2009 02:55 PM

Useful information on band and prop power system sizing?
 
Hello, Michael Norcia here.

While I generally stay in the DLG side of our curios hobby, I have been drawn as of late towards rubber band powered aircraft.

Do any of you know of any pages with good information, and better yet data on rubber band sizing as well as prop sizing? (when I search for rubber band data etc I only seem to get lists of kits.) The art of using the correct prop and bands is more complex than I had originally guessed, as well as much more important for good flight characteristics.

I am trying to build a few ~12" long gliders of varying designs (one classic flying stick like model and one resembling the "string less wonder") to be flown in calm conditions or indoors. My goal is to have between 30-1 minute flights with simple, fairly light weight depron and balsa frames. I dont want ballistic performance, but enough power to cruise and allow for observation of the flight characteristics, if that helps.

Thanks in advance!

Michael

#2 Gluehand Apr 03, 2009 07:35 PM

As there is a huge amount of experience lurking out here (hopefully filling all the blanks, eventually), please take these "rules of thumb" as "go-from-here-advices".

As I understand the models are going to be of around 12" span....

Prop size:
Think "1/3 span"

Rubber size:
Use 1/8" strand, start with one loop about 1 1/2 times the fuselage length.
(a winder should be used)

Prop shaft thrust line:
About 2 down / 2 right would be a good guess for a start.

If lightly built and a decent decalage and C/G setup, this would give fairly long flight times....to be further developed...

:) ...for 1/2 a penny's worth... :)

#3 jwfinn Apr 09, 2009 12:15 PM

If you want serious indoor performance on a 12" wingspan, look at a 6" prop. I know that sounds big, but it's not. That will give you an efficient prop diameter without being hard to trim. You'll probably be using a loop of 3/32. Might get away with 1/16 if you build light.

#4 kevin matthews Apr 09, 2009 01:44 PM

Yea, I had a plane with a 12 1/2" span and a 7" plastic propeller with a loop of 1/8" rubber which flew well enough to land in the top of a tree a minute, ten seconds into the flight.

Kev


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