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Question Paageboy Plans

DeeBee1 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:13:22 GMT

Anybody know of a (preferably UK based) plans service that has the Vic Smeed Paageboy plans? The plans services I usually use have drawn a blank on this one.

DB

Cool Video- Bill`s Quaker & Buzzard Test Flight

Chad H — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:57:32 GMT

Here`s one of the very few nice summer evenings we had this season with Bill enjoying his old faithful Flying Quaker. Then in the next clip he test flew his restored Buzzard Bombshell.

Flying Quaker (8 min 50 sec)

Buzzard Bombshell (9 min 32 sec)

This was the first video that I used my new little Samsung flash camera with 35X optical Zoom. I have since learned just to set the focus to infinity on manual for better results.

Look for more old-timer vids to be posted next spring because this thing just makes it so easy to do.
Chad H

Help! ID This Plane?

gallfer — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:00:05 GMT

I built one of these in the mid-seventys. I believe I had a Super Tigre .21 on it. Could it be a ACE Super Pacer? Any help will be appreciated cause I'd like to find/build one with a modern radio. Think I built a Heathkit radio for the original plane. Thanks!

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Help! Randy Randolph Plans

Mark Winstanley — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:42:59 GMT

Does anyone othe there have any Randy Randolph plans scanned? I would like to do conversions of some of his old plans into electrics but first would like to start from a scanned copy (.pdf or .jpg etc).

I am already half way through the drawings for the Jodel Bebe D9 (see another thread here in this forum) and anticipate finishing that soon.

Thanks for your help.

Mark.

Discussion Covering undercamber technique ?

starzak — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:35:40 GMT

I'll be using Ultracote Lite transparent film for covering. Has anyone ever heard about using Hair Spray to assist sticking to undercamber ?

What's the secret for doing undercamber ? ? ?

zak

News New vintage and classic forum

patternpilot1 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:51:22 GMT

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Discussion Lanzo Bomber wing panels ?

starzak — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:05:02 GMT

As many of you know, the Bombers wing consists of a straight center panel, and two large tip panels. I plan to cover with a lite film. Is it better to cover each of the 3 panels seperately, before gluing them together, or finish the entire wing first, glue the panels together, and then cover ?

zak

Discussion Fairchild PT-19 by Jetco

KMKAZE — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:54:13 GMT

I have an opportunity to pick it up NIB for $25. I'm going to call the guy tonight for details, but he says it's never been opened and is 1950's vintage.

Would something like this be worth anything to a collector?

Discussion Micro Telemaster Converted to Old Timer

drpje2000 — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:54:51 GMT

I just purchased a Micro Telemaster kit. I was looking for an Old Timer complete kit but could not find one in the size and price I was looking for. The Micro Telemaster has a 35" wingspan and is a simple build with full sheeted fuselage sides, and built up wing and tail. The plane has a single dihedral and straight untapered wings. I would say the closest Old Timer it resembles is the Buzzard Bombshell. Have any of you purchased this kit or done any mods to make it resemble and Old Timer. Thanks

Cool Late Don Scott, friend, modeling pioneer.

Chad H — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:49:25 GMT

Here is a link to my YouTube channell showing a late friend of mine in a small clip doing what he was most pationate about, flying vintage models.

The late Don Scott, Hamilton Flying Tigers pioneer (6 min 35 sec)

Don was a fellow founder of the Hamilton Flying Tigers, back in the days when they flew free flight and U-control off the full size Mt. Hope Airport taxi-way ( It`s now Hamilton International).

Don was a very early MAAC member, and a very early SAM member which he loved to compete in many of thier events using original spark ignition engines out of his very large collection.

Don was unmistakable with his profile and custom head gear out at the flying field.

A great giver in the hobby, always getting members deals in butrate dope, alcohol, and nitro by the 5 gallon pail. Plus he had contacts for a endess affordable supply of small bolts, nuts and screws. Some of which I still have in my un-used stock.

I hope others out there in their clubs are as fortunate as I was to have had modeling friends such as him.

Chad

Discussion help identify

williame3590 — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:26:57 GMT

Sorry no photo right now so I might have to wait but I'll try and descibe.
I have an oldtimer coming from a swap meet and the stab looks like a Cloud Cruiser, the main wing has about 8" dihedral and similar to a Majestic Major.
The fin and rudder are fairly tall and substancial and the most unique feature is the cockpit which is closed and between the fin and trailing edge. Windshield comes to a point in the centre and the top blends into the fin with a turtle deck.

Any ideas on what it might be? I've never seen one like this before.
It is similar to this Fiske.

Thanks Bill

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Discussion Looking for a good Silk and Dope Man

Terry N — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:47:11 GMT

I recenty aquired from my Father a Berkley Custom Privateer. The airframe is in good shape but the covering is shot. Would like to have it redone with the original stuff. If anyone would know of someone that might want to take on the project, let me know. Thanks, Terry

Discussion Whats this?

tri-pacer — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:13:16 GMT

I've just got to know what this is and if anyone has a plan for it. Look at the top of the page and you'll see what I'm talking about. Did this really fly?

Chuck

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Discussion Powerhouse, your thoughts?

Kimber — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:18:01 GMT

OK. Brad has some questions. First:

An 84" model is too big for us to deal with, transporting,
storing, building.

Brad wants to reduce it to 2/3's. A 56" 40 size we can
handle. Flatten the wing, add aileron. Keep the fuselage
as is, landing gear and such.

We have the plans in full size but can reduce with no problems.

Brad and I both think it is one of the prettiest aircraft
ever built. Brad saw one fly when he was very young
and has never forgotten about it.

If built light, would it need a 40?

I did a search, but the phrase, "Powerhouse is used in
about a million posts, and sometimes several times in
each one.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Discussion New Indian Mills Replica's

Twin-Stack — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:52:13 GMT

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Build Log Mystery Tailless Gets Steroids

kineticartist — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:49:40 GMT

I built the EasyBuild version of the Mystery tailless and had great success. It flew well and looks cool.

So I enlarged the plans to a 36" wingspan. I fiddled with the airfoil a bit. Since I don't know what I was doing this was very easy.

I made the fuselage from foam and finished it ala Kieth Sparks. The motor is an outrunner from RCHotDeals.com which pulls 8oz which was fine because the model weighed about 6 oz.

I ended up using a two cell LiPo, 740 mah and an 8-4 propeller.

My strip elevons were not large enough so I made them 1" and now there is enough control.

Since this is a free flight model I run it up to altitude, turn off the motor and let it glide without R/C input. It glides very well and is fast when you want to just steer it around a bit.

Fun to watch.

Arthur

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Discussion Push rod material ?

starzak — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:07:32 GMT

What is the lightest push rod material to use in a slow flying old timer. Old timer is 58" in span, and maybe 20 ounces. Don't tell me pull - pull, because I'm not interested in pull - pull. :mad:

Steel, carbon fiber, ?, and how do you attach it to a clevis, or do you use a Z bend to attach it to a control horn ? I need a light weight method of connecting my servos to the control horns at the rear, rudder, and elevator.

Thank you for your help.

zak

Discussion Heavy Duty Colored Silk Source?

JackHiner — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:02:51 GMT

A fellow I fly with is looking for heavy duty colored silk for covering his latest model. He does not want to dye silk. He has used up his old supply of heavy duty colored silk and building a new model. He can obtain heavy duty white silk and colored silk but light weight. Any ideas where to get heavy duty colored silk in the United States? Here are photos of two Waco electric powered models. Built from an old free flight set of plans with outrunner, 3 cell Li-Po and 2.4 gHz radio. A mix of new and old. Both great flying models. Jack

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Cool visit with Italian modelers

RyanNX211 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:50:41 GMT

http://www.thebuildingboard.com/2009...-giovanni.html

Discussion Anyone know of any good websites?

zachattach12 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:06:13 GMT

Hey does anyone know of any good website where I can purchase plans for airplanes, preferably a piper cub. Thanks in advance.

Build Log Giant Red Zephyr build

jwhitacre — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:13 GMT

Ok so I've been convinced that I should build a 200% RZ. The plus is I have most of the pricey stuff on hand already. I have an old Sachs 3.2 gasser and plenty of 1/4 scale servos so now I just gotta build an airframe around it;) With a 108" fuse and 144" wing transportation will be the key to how I build this(it's gotta fit in my 4door Chrysler 5th Ave;) I'm thinking 4 piece wing, 2 piece fuse and removable tail. For construction materials I'm thinking lots of spruce, ply, and foam. I'm going to have to sit down and do some drawing up on rough plans to figure out how the fuse will go together but I'm thinking the tail servos will be mounted in the horiz. stab. This will obviously be a SLOOOOOW build which will give plenty of time for suggestions and for me to figure out how to sneak a 12' plane past the wife:p Here's some pics of the engine:

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Discussion C.G. on old bipe

Stan Richardson — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:45:58 GMT

how good a builder are you?)Hi Guys,
Since youre all into building one-desicn stuff, ( "How god a builder are you? by adamtc) maybe you can help me. I just acquired a W.W.1 Nieuport with a 60" top wing (in a swap meet, with no specs or other info) and wonder if someone could tell me what would be a good C.G. to shoot for?
I would build a boat cuz if she quits you can paddle.
Stan

Question HD Spitfire MKXIV

Ultra Boom — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:19:03 GMT

Hi hope im asken in the right spot. I have an Hobby Dynamics Spitfire MKIV kit. All the parts appear to be there however I have no plans or instructions. Can someone help me track down a set so I can make this bird fly, from its faded old box? the kit number is hddmk14 if that helps, Thanks for looken.

Discussion Trexler wheels

akovacs — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:15:09 GMT

Has anyone out there sucessfully repaired a Trexler wheel??

Discussion Half Size 'mini Red Zephyr' completed - pics

Rick Rotorhead — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:48:28 GMT

Hi all, well as reported in a couple of my previous posts I've decided to build a mini Red Zephyr for the power train from my Shock flyer :)

The motor is a microdan 2505 (1200kv) turning a SF 8x4.3 prop powered by 3s 740mAHr batts through a Scorpion 11A ESC. This combo outputs around 80w at WOT and gives 16Oz static thrust on a fresh charge.

The model - being 1/2 sized is 36 inch span and 6 inch chord. She weighs in at a hefty (for this size) 13Oz.

She maidened on Saturday and easily stayed aloft on 1/2 throttle, however the experience was spoiled a bit by a strong tendancy to nose-up alarmingly. I later realised that this was due to me not copying the generous wing tip washout that I have on the big version, so the little ones wings have way too much incidence. Over the weekend I rebuilt the tail section to drop the back of the tailplane by 1/4 inch and I hope that will do the trick - just waiting on some calm weather now.

I just love the Red Zephyr design and one day I still plan to build my giant version dream for a gasser.

Rick

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Discussion upgrades (forum)

williame3590 — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:36:38 GMT

Thought I liked the upgrades till I visited the archives:(

Cool Modified Red Zephyr onboard video

jwhitacre — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:30:13 GMT

Ok here's a little history before the video: this was my first flight with an onboard camera(its cheap so the quality is cheap) and also my first try at using my hatcam that I made. Personally I think they turned out great considering. I know the RZ looks a little weird with that wing but the stock one was taken out of service and I'm building a new one over the winter. Until the new one is done I've been using the wing from my Sig Riser 100 with great results. Let me know what you guys think.

Modified Red Zephyr flight with onboard cam (4 min 50 sec)

Discussion Ever build one of these

tri-pacer — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:46:33 GMT

A few neat planes I came across: Anyone every built any of them?

One that kind of strikes my fancy is the Hot Canary: I really like the simple rib construction.
Chuck

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Discussion A new Coquette in OZ

Warren B — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:08:19 GMT

Thought I might share my new Vic Smeed Coquette, just maidened this morning.

She's slightly enlarged form the original 30" to 34" to try to keep a lowish wing loading with the 3 channel radio on board.

At 22oz, it seems to have worked, she flew beautifully.

The power, a little 1cc Schlosser RC is just right, not too fast but gets around a large loop with no probems. Rolls on rudder are almost axial (well compared to my usual ones anyway).
Low throttle she just glides around, still with good control.

Covering is Airspan/dope and 2 pack floor finish.
My usual bashed ali cowl and a noce long exhaust extension completes the picture (and sounds good too, nice popping when I throttle down).

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Discussion Spook 48"

Steve Merrill — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:14:49 GMT

I had this in the Park Flyers Forum. Someone suggested I post it here.

Noticed someone is working on the 96" version.

This is my second Spook. Built from RCM plans. Sept, 2002 issue.

AUW is 21oz. Hope to fly her this weekend.

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