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			<title>Discussion Kestrel Parts</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:01:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
 
Does anyone have any of the Kestrel parts from Dave lying around not in use? I am doing my own ornithopter and was thinking of using his parts to flap the wing. 
 
Anyone can help?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any of the Kestrel parts from Dave lying around not in use? I am doing my own ornithopter and was thinking of using his parts to flap the wing.<br />
<br />
Anyone can help?</div>

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			<title>Discussion Gear ratios for flapping mechanism</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:21:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am trying to find what are the gear ratios used in this bird 
 
http://flappingflight.com/ 
 
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194094 
 
Also, how many times per minute does it needs to flap to sustain flight. 
 
thanks</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am trying to find what are the gear ratios used in this bird<br />
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<a href="http://flappingflight.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://flappingflight.com/</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194094" target="_blank">http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194094</a><br />
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Also, how many times per minute does it needs to flap to sustain flight.<br />
<br />
thanks</div>

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			<title>Idea different flapping mechanism</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:40:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Whoops! slo-hawk</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:07:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Just wanted to let the Ornithopter guys know that I have a slo-hawk for sale in the RC electric miscellaneous section.  Thanks..  Kloudking 
There are pictures there also, of the bird, and the Eagle head that I carved and put on it..</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just wanted to let the Ornithopter guys know that I have a slo-hawk for sale in the RC electric miscellaneous section.  Thanks..  Kloudking<br />
There are pictures there also, of the bird, and the Eagle head that I carved and put on it..</div>

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			<title>Discussion 2 wing orni to 4 wing orni conversion ....</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:46:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi  
 
Any hint or tips are greatly appreciated ... I'm after converting the I"m Fenice 2 winged fast flying  poor control orni into a 4 winged slow flying controllable orni ... Is it possible ... ?? 
 
I'm thinking of using the tail actuator to deflect the wings for steering insteade of steering...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi <br />
<br />
Any hint or tips are greatly appreciated ... I'm after converting the I&quot;m Fenice 2 winged fast flying  poor control orni into a 4 winged slow flying controllable orni ... Is it possible ... ??<br />
<br />
I'm thinking of using the tail actuator to deflect the wings for steering insteade of steering the tail ... just like the I-Vamp by ITC.... <br />
<br />
Thanks a lot for your input ... <br />
<br />
Khaled</div>

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			<title>Discussion Ornithopter Equations</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:17:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
 
Was wondering if anyone knows of any equations for ornithopters? 
 
I did up a rubber-band powered ornithopter and wanted to calculate how much power the cranks are operating at, rubber band energy, how much power is required to flap the wings and stuffs. 
 
Does anyone have any idea of the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
Was wondering if anyone knows of any equations for ornithopters?<br />
<br />
I did up a rubber-band powered ornithopter and wanted to calculate how much power the cranks are operating at, rubber band energy, how much power is required to flap the wings and stuffs.<br />
<br />
Does anyone have any idea of the equations or where I can read up on it?<br />
<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Clifford</div>

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			<title>Discussion Suggested mods for the Fenice for better control</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:19:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Well ..I like the slow flying characteristics of some other ornis ... like the Silverlit I-bird or Airhogs V-Wing avenger ..and Ireally wonder how Ican make the Fenice fly at slower speeds ... it may make it more controllable ...  
 
I'm looking for mods that are not pricey and doesn't include...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well ..I like the slow flying characteristics of some other ornis ... like the Silverlit I-bird or Airhogs V-Wing avenger ..and Ireally wonder how Ican make the Fenice fly at slower speeds ... it may make it more controllable ... <br />
<br />
I'm looking for mods that are not pricey and doesn't include using a tail servo for the tail .. because that will require a receiver , speed controller ,and a servo ... What about changing wing geometry ... .. playing with CG ..maybe change gearing ...I really appreciate any ideas <br />
<br />
thanks a lot <br />
<br />
Khaled</div>

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			<title>Discussion Double-Size Phoenix now on EBAY</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:46:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi folks - 
 
I just listed a GIANT RUBBER POWERED ornithopter for sale on EBAY. It is a fully-built, double-size version of the Ornithopter Zone's Phoenix kit. It is a one-of-a-kind model that I built in order to explore scale effects. 
 
Here is a link to the auction, where you can read more...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi folks -<br />
<br />
I just listed a GIANT RUBBER POWERED ornithopter for sale on EBAY. It is a fully-built, double-size version of the Ornithopter Zone's Phoenix kit. It is a one-of-a-kind model that I built in order to explore scale effects.<br />
<br />
Here is a link to the auction, where you can read more about this unique model: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Phoenix-Ornithopter-2x-double-size-flapping-wings_W0QQitemZ180428154335QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a025b25df" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/Phoenix-Ornithop...item2a025b25df</a><br />
<br />
And here is a link to the normal-size Phoenix kit:<br />
<a href="http://www.flyabird.com/ff.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.flyabird.com/ff.html</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>NChronister</dc:creator>
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			<title>Discussion O-Rings?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
I need to replace my Kinkade tail O-Rings. :confused: 
Does any one have a source size or part number? 
 
Thanks all, 
Johnny</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
I need to replace my Kinkade tail O-Rings. :confused:<br />
Does any one have a source size or part number?<br />
<br />
Thanks all,<br />
Johnny</div>

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			<title>Discussion Sensor Suggestions for Slow Hawk II</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:20:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a tachometer sensor for a Slow Hawk II.  I am looking for something that is relatively light.  Thanks in advance for any help.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a tachometer sensor for a Slow Hawk II.  I am looking for something that is relatively light.  Thanks in advance for any help.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Discussion ENTOID-shortcut for the "flapping wing"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:49:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>http://velkovelkov.blogspot.com/2009/09/entoid.html 
 
It is difficult for the Nature to realize this simple design-ENTOID, but it have many advantages.</description>
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<br />
It is difficult for the Nature to realize this simple design-ENTOID, but it have many advantages.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Velko Velkov</dc:creator>
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			<title>Cool SK Park Hawk and crows attacking it.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:10:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Thanks for the help with the cog, now enjoy this picture.  I am flying the SK Park Hawk with 800 Ma 2s1p battery, stock motor, at Costa Mesa CA flying field.  After no more than 2 minutes the crows start squawking and circling my Ornithopter.  Soon there were lots of crows, circling and making lots...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Thanks for the help with the cog, now enjoy this picture.  I am flying the SK Park Hawk with 800 Ma 2s1p battery, stock motor, at Costa Mesa CA flying field.  After no more than 2 minutes the crows start squawking and circling my Ornithopter.  Soon there were lots of crows, circling and making lots of noise.  Some wanted to attack it; others just wanted to be close.  Everyone there was cracking up watching this thing and the birds flying around, what fun.<br />
<br />
H.</div>


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			<title>Discussion Slow Hawk 2 build trouble</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:53:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm feeling a bit dumb right now, I mean I'm not inexperienced, having built and flown a number of heli's/aircraft/tanks/cars, you name it......but......well OK, call me stupid but I don't get it.   
 
First of all the elevator instructions drove me mad :confused:  :mad: Here's a tip for Sean...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm feeling a bit dumb right now, I mean I'm not inexperienced, having built and flown a number of heli's/aircraft/tanks/cars, you name it......but......well OK, call me stupid but I don't get it.  <br />
<br />
First of all the elevator instructions drove me mad :confused:  :mad: Here's a tip for Sean Kinkade...a couple of diagrams wouldn't hurt. Anyway I think I have that figured but I'll come back to that as I have a more pressing problem...<br />
<br />
How on earth are the aluminium ferrule's supposed to attach to the main bearings. The centre hole of the bearings are bigger than the head of the supplied cap screws. So I could use a washer but that won't centralise easily and then at the other end of the screw, it's just gonna float around loose in the bearing. Nah!! Somethings missing here...or I'm missing something blindingly obvious.</div>


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