F3F Race Sunday April 26 Thornton [Archive]

timbigley

Feb 09, 2009, 12:08 PM

Well, I wanted to see if there is any interest in having a race?

It sure would be great to get out and have a little fun on the course.

Let me know if you are interested and lets make it happen.

TimB

KurtMc

Feb 09, 2009, 12:31 PM

Yeah lets race! I'm looking forward! Best site in Cali, IMHO, when the winds blow from the west at 15+. Winner buys dinner, right, Tim?

mrfski

Feb 09, 2009, 02:06 PM

Tim,
I'll be there.
Mart

jofo1

Feb 09, 2009, 03:09 PM

I'm out, travelling that weekend.

gingin

Feb 09, 2009, 07:57 PM

ch 38

Kai@UCSB

Feb 09, 2009, 09:18 PM

I am positive, 2.4G

-Kai

jgs99v

Feb 09, 2009, 10:20 PM

OK - sick or not - schedule or not - I'll be there !!!!!! 72mhz Sen.

Neil Walker

Feb 09, 2009, 10:43 PM

I'm a newbie to F3F and new to the area... but I have a Pike Giant that wants to fly. Can I play?

jofo1

Feb 10, 2009, 10:08 AM

how about moving it to the following w/e????????

G Norsworthy

Feb 10, 2009, 11:01 AM

Count me in. Ch 34 or 35, have to see what toys I have working.

jgs99v

Feb 10, 2009, 11:13 AM

Joe we can do both weekends :) Weather permitting!

timmig

Feb 10, 2009, 11:43 AM

A Pike Giant will work fine. Bring your ballast!
T

gingin

Feb 10, 2009, 08:26 PM

I'm a newbie to F3F and new to the area... but I have a Pike Giant that wants to fly. Can I play?

yep come on down - we'll show you the ropes.

Neil Walker

Feb 10, 2009, 10:35 PM

Sweet! I've been there before, but where do you fly, in relation to the roundabout parking circle?

P-51flyer

Feb 10, 2009, 11:33 PM

If you are talking about the kinda "park" parking area then you just go right towards the stables. Right before the stables there is a path that goes down the hill. From the beginning of the path strait out to the ocean, down on the lower lip is where we fly. You will go down to the right then back left and up to the cliff.

Hope that makes sense. It is better if you turn right onto HWY 35 and make that immediate left into the stable area, go down a bit and there's a court type deal there that you can park along. Gets your car out of the way of all the tourists and traffic.

Val,

Good to hear from you! Been a while!

Aaron

gingin

Feb 11, 2009, 01:04 AM

timbigley

Feb 14, 2009, 03:27 PM

I have rescheduled the gathering.
TimB

jgs99v

Feb 14, 2009, 08:12 PM

So no go tomorrow? Looks a little wet, but that's what they said about today.

G Norsworthy

Feb 14, 2009, 09:32 PM

Sat 2/28 or Sun 3/1?

jofo1

Feb 25, 2009, 06:52 PM

Right now the forecast for Sunday is big but south and probably stormy. Sierra Rd will be going off in a big way though, I might head out there Sunday if anyone is interested...or not. :)

target

Mar 01, 2009, 09:27 PM

It was absolutely cranking at Fermin today! It's about time, cause we've been "sucking hind teet" on the wind lately on weekends.

Hope you guys get some races in.

Target

P-51flyer

Mar 01, 2009, 10:04 PM

Good to hear T! We are just getting rain, rain, and more rain right now. Winds are strong but complete wrong direction!

Aaron

John Ward

Mar 04, 2009, 09:39 AM

This weekend March 7-8 is shaping up to be pretty good for wind as this rain moves east. Any one up for racing at Thornton?

timbigley

Mar 04, 2009, 09:47 AM

John,,that's a good call. I can come out on Sunday with the gear.
What do you think guys? Want to meet Sunday?

Tim B

mrfski

Mar 04, 2009, 11:04 AM

Tim,
I believe 3/8 is also the standing date for the NCSS F3F race. Have you talked to Rich about combining the events?
Mart

timbigley

Mar 04, 2009, 11:39 AM

Oooops, I did not realize that Mart.
I have spoken with Rich in the past and he does not want to do the walk.

With that said guys I will not be doing a race. I do not want to step on NCSS feet. However if conditions are good out at Thornton I will be there for a day of slope flying.

Tim B

P-51flyer

Mar 07, 2009, 03:50 PM

Thorton tomorrow!!!! Who is in? Flew with Tim out there yesterday and it was a good 20 strait in! AWESOME conditions, should be about the same tomorrow!

Aaron

jgs99v

Mar 07, 2009, 06:05 PM

Aaron - I'm in! Caldera???? Gotta get it dial'd in

timbigley

Mar 07, 2009, 09:22 PM

I'm in for sure!!!
The forecast is for 15-20 w. That's as good as it gets.

Tim B

P-51flyer

Mar 07, 2009, 10:19 PM

Gonna do some Winch flying in the AM then see you gentlemen around 1:30!

Aaron

timbigley

Mar 08, 2009, 09:20 AM

It's already 10-17 straight into the hill. It's barely even day break.
TimB

jgs99v

Mar 08, 2009, 03:41 PM

Guys - Aaron just called - white caps straight in! Heading off !!!

cvanscho

Mar 08, 2009, 03:44 PM

But - it's quarter to nine at night :confused: :D

jgs99v

Mar 08, 2009, 08:56 PM

Well guys the Caldera Maidened successfully - wonderful day!!!!!!!!
Tim and Aaron were there to help out - Tim flew and I tried to copy his lines.
Great feedback - and landing - thanks Tim!!!!!
Wish they held the race at Thornton instead of the slot - the air as the sun came down started to shift more north but built to nominal 30# gusting to 38+ - sandblasted!! Aaron successfully landed his tool albit heart racing moment - good skills.
So I've found out the difference between the Caldera and 3M F3F - Caldera's are within a segment of light to moderate air!!! The bigger planes just carry more speed in heavy air! But that Caldera was on rails - not bounced around or anything!! Very stable.
Glad to hear that Tom @ F3X is getting more in - great plane.

BTW: Tim Bigley has a really great F3B winch - wish I had the funds, but wrong timing with taxes and such.

timbigley

Mar 09, 2009, 10:35 AM

I could not agree with you more Jack. Thornton is a world class slope for F3F and not to race there is just a shame.
I hear people complain about the short walk. I timed myself walking back up with all my gear and it took all of 7 1/2 minutes.

I got a chance to slap the Caldera around and I must say what a superb plane it is. Thanks Jack.

A few pictures I took with my new Canon 5d markii. I'm trying to get a bit of practice in before I leave to Spain in May.

Kyle Paulson

Mar 09, 2009, 11:30 AM

Hey Tim... how about you come down to White Point and "Slap" around some of us Soc Cal pilots? :eek:

Your arch rival.

KP

timbigley

Mar 12, 2009, 04:49 PM

I can bring the gear out this Saturday for some practice.

Who's in?

TimB

P-51flyer

Mar 12, 2009, 04:55 PM

I'M IN!!!! Guys, come on out, supposed to be good this Saturday. What better way to get some laps in than hang out down on the beach! COME ON OUT GUYS!!!!!

Sub 40s speeds were happening last weekend and looks like it may happen again!

Aaron

P-51flyer

Mar 13, 2009, 02:58 PM

Forecast is looking absolutely killer!!! Should be about 20 strait in! This would be a great time to come and learn how to F3F if you are just getting started. No pressure to put down fast laps, can do multiple runs without landing. Come join us if you can!

Aaron

jgs99v

Mar 13, 2009, 03:30 PM

My input is as follows:
These conditions are pretty consistent - you can work on the following
1) Trim, CG, balance, snap flaps, throws - get all sorted out in pretty much consistent conditions.
2) Practice consistent turning methods for building on skill and air conditions - you get to try out and consistently determine if the line or turn method provides the intended purpose before you go to a race. Your practice as the wind builds during the day will change, as the wind direction corners you have to change. This is important whether inland or coastal - to practice in consistent conditions to increase your skill level.

I got alot of help and inputs from both Tim and Aaron - and I can see immediately what was working and what was not.

So I see this as a tremendous opportunity - either for skilled or beginner. Great if you are planning on attending the inaugural "MOM Track Day" - get ahead of the crowd. Bring out that foamie or moldie - do some laps :)

OK done!

Neil Walker

Mar 13, 2009, 04:00 PM

Hope the wind keeps up late in the day - I'm occupied for the morning but should be able to make it out late afternoonish. Hurrah for daylight savings time! I flew until 7:15 last night :)

BillO

Mar 13, 2009, 10:34 PM

Dang, wish I had seen this thread earlier! Looks like it will be a great day and I am otherwise occupied...

P-51flyer

Mar 13, 2009, 10:37 PM

Dang, wish I had seen this thread earlier! Looks like it will be a great day and I am otherwise occupied...

Darn Bill! Would love to have you join us. Maybe if you get out early or something of whatever you are up to you can come join us along with Neil!

I'm sure we will be out there till at least 5 or 6!

Aaron

KurtMc

Mar 13, 2009, 10:45 PM

Hat's in ... Bringing the timing gear? :D

timbigley

Mar 14, 2009, 12:36 AM

Yes the course will be set up.

TimB

target

Mar 14, 2009, 06:12 PM

Hey Tim... how about you come down to White Point and "Slap" around some of us Soc Cal pilots? :eek:

Your arch rival.

KP

Yeah. I feel like a good slap! :D

T

timbigley

Mar 15, 2009, 12:00 PM

I took this pic of the flying site at sunset.
More to come.
TimB

KurtMc

Mar 15, 2009, 02:54 PM

We had great conditions, great planes, great pilots, great friends . . . Only one cliff side adventure, and low 40's for a lot of fliers with a fast time of 40.19 by Mr. B. :cool: Nice meeting Neil who flew great and really impressed by Matt who laid down a 46 at his very first F3F race. Great flying gents.

http://www.vimeo.com/3668972

Neil Walker

Mar 15, 2009, 05:26 PM

That was a fun afternoon - glad I stopped by, nice to meet everyone and thanks for letting me get a few laps in.

timbigley

Mar 15, 2009, 08:29 PM

I want to thank everyone that made it out for outstanding day.
We had a few new faces of the 9 pilots that made it out.

The conditions were 15-22W. If flown correctly it was possible to stay in the low 40's all day. Joe Foster managed to stay in the mid to low 40's all day.
I seemed to be 43-40 most of the time. Some of the less experienced all got a taste of the energy at times.
Most important is that no pilot had a issue with landing.

I think I need to stop going out with Aaron. The young man is doing very well with the "monkey see monkey do"method. I am sure he will be biting at my heels real soon.

Dominic flew his hand built Hurricane. He's one of the few left that build their own planes. It was turning and burning. I almost forgot Mickey was not flying it.
I sure hope we get to do it again real soon.
TimB

F3X

Mar 15, 2009, 08:53 PM

Now that's how its done! Great Video Kurt!

OK plan a race weekend and I am up for a road trip!!

P-51flyer

Mar 15, 2009, 08:58 PM

Man what a fun day! You know its good when you break your plane on the first flight but still have a good day! Think the break was my own fault but will figure out more later. Repair is under way already and will be ready to rock again soon!!!

Thanks to my pops for letting me fly his planes! I was able to lay down a few 44's and a 45 with his Viking set up differently then I fly. That is a awesome plane that is fast yet pretty forgiving. Next up...... We put my pops 57" Banana on the course. WOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Little planes always look like they move really quick but this proved it. I was able to lay down a 45!!!! The thing was allover but QUICK!

Good to see everyone out there yesterday. Hope you guys will come join us again soon!

Aaron

Kyle Paulson

Mar 15, 2009, 10:01 PM

Great Vid Kurt! Wow!

Tim you will be hard to beat up there dude. Nice flying!

I would do a road trip too! I love that place!

KP

KurtMc

Mar 15, 2009, 11:14 PM

Thanks guys, I had fun making that vid. So, I made a few more :)

Here's Tim on a few fast runs:
http://vimeo.com/3676520

Jofo showing a hand with 4 Aces
http://vimeo.com/3677381

Dbaya brewing up a Category 5 (or more like 44, 45, 46)
http://vimeo.com/3675373

And P51-Flyer showing he's multi-capable even with engine's off
http://vimeo.com/3675191

Yeah, lets pick a date for the double header . . . Early May sound good? :cool:

timbigley

Mar 16, 2009, 01:25 AM

Great Vid Kurt! Wow!

Tim you will be hard to beat up there dude. Nice flying!

I would do a road trip too! I love that place!

KP

I'm sure you won't have too much trouble beating me Kyle. I have not been flying much and I feel very rusty.
TimB

P-51flyer

Mar 16, 2009, 01:46 AM

Awesome videos, Thanks Kurt!

Aaron

target

Mar 16, 2009, 07:14 AM

NOW I'm jealous!

Glad you guys got in some racing!

T

John Ward

Mar 16, 2009, 09:26 AM

Awesome conditions and fantastic scenery. What a fantastic day. Great videos Kurt!

jgs99v

Mar 16, 2009, 11:16 AM

Gosh darn-it - I missed this one!
Commitment for 1/4midgets for the next generation unfortunately took precidence.
Novice Junior 4th place was as good!!! Wish I was there. Next time!

jofo1

Mar 16, 2009, 11:48 AM

Awesome day at Thorton. Thanks to Tim and Kurt for the pics and vid.

jwf

timbigley

Apr 17, 2009, 09:49 AM

You guys want to get out next week on Saturday April 25?

TimB

MarcusT

Apr 17, 2009, 10:21 AM

PLEASE make it Sunday . . . already committed for Saturday . . . I'm never going to get to race again . . . waaaaahhhhh!!!

Mark

timbigley

Apr 17, 2009, 10:31 AM

We can make it Sunday. Does this work for others that want to fly?
TimB

P-51flyer

Apr 17, 2009, 10:33 PM

Lets race!

Have a club TD contest on Sunday but can miss it if needed.

Aaron

jofo1

Apr 17, 2009, 10:40 PM

Sunday will be good for me.

John Ward

Apr 18, 2009, 10:59 AM

Saturday would be better, Sunday is the Pacific Dream Machines car and bike and air show in Half Moon Bay. If you've never been, you need to experience it at least once. Hmmmm Merlins!

mrfski

Apr 20, 2009, 10:14 AM

Tim,
Either day is good for me but I prefer Sunday so I can race against Mark.
Mart

MarcusT

Apr 20, 2009, 06:15 PM

Tim,
Either day is good for me but I prefer Sunday so I can race against Mark.
Mart

Not sure how I should take that, Mart?!?!? ;)

Mark

target

Apr 20, 2009, 06:18 PM

Them is fightin wurds!

T

KurtMc

Apr 20, 2009, 06:22 PM

I might be able to make it Sunday -- only if Mark T comes as I want to see a cat fight between Mart and Mark (and get some footage of a Caliber in flight!)

Sat's shot for me.

Kurt
and his scratch marks

P-51flyer

Apr 20, 2009, 06:40 PM

I'm only coming if Mark is bringing the Cali-bur...

Guess I should finish putting my poor beat up Tool back together and see if I can make it around the course.

Aaron

MarcusT

Apr 20, 2009, 10:03 PM

I'll be there ... and so will the Caliber. :D

Mark

timbigley

Apr 20, 2009, 10:51 PM

Mark, it looks like you are missed dude.
I want to see that Caliber go as well. Looks like a sweet plane.

As of now it looks like we should be in for a treat as far as the wind goes. It still way early but lets hope.

T

P-51flyer

Apr 20, 2009, 11:11 PM

Looks like we will either get a nice day of good winds, or rain......

Lets hope for the wind!

Aaron

mrfski

Apr 21, 2009, 10:11 AM

Mark,
Take it as a complement to your flying skills, and the fact we don't get to fly against ou that much.
Mart

MarcusT

Apr 21, 2009, 02:29 PM

Not sure if you guys simply missed having me around or if you're all looking forward to kicking my rusty a#@!

Mark

timmig

Apr 21, 2009, 03:05 PM

Oh yeah--- get some video of the Caliber!!! I'll get mine in the air some time this summer!! I just have to carve out some more time to FLY!!!
T

P-51flyer

Apr 23, 2009, 01:28 AM

Winds are looking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!! Where is everyone else??? Scott W., Steve S, DZ, Ron V, Jack..... and whoever else! Come on guys lets race.

Aaron

gingin

Apr 23, 2009, 08:39 PM

Winds are looking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!! Where is everyone else??? Scott W., Steve S, DZ, Ron V, Jack..... and whoever else! Come on guys lets race.

Aaron

I'll be there - looking forward to seeing y'all

jofo1

Apr 24, 2009, 01:39 PM

My oldest is playing state cup soccer (quarterfinals on Sat.) if they win I'm likely out on Sunday (semifinals). Torn...want her to win, but really want to fly. jwf

timbigley

Apr 24, 2009, 05:35 PM

Forecast is looking perfect. 15-20 W and starting very early well actually never quitting.
Get there as early as you want because there should be wind. I will be there around 8 or so to get the course set up and get some hot laps in. I believe Mark will be there early as well to unveil his Caliber.

Tim

Kyle Paulson

Apr 24, 2009, 08:01 PM

If we were not having a race here in SoCal this weekend I would be packing my car right now and on my way! you guys are going to have some great conditions and a wonderful time! Nice!

Good luck!

K

MarcusT

Apr 24, 2009, 08:37 PM

Do it, Kyle!!! You guys are just going to get skunked again down south . . . :p

Mark

P-51flyer

Apr 24, 2009, 09:25 PM

Do it, Kyle!!! You guys are just going to get skunked again down south . . . :p

Mark

OUCH!!!! Mark, don't jinx us up here buddy! Forecast is looking AWESOME! I can't wait. Got a couple new faces coming up to race with us.

What time is RACE time Tim? 8 is way early for me....

Aaron

timbigley

Apr 24, 2009, 09:47 PM

Lets try and shoot for 11.

T

timbigley

Apr 26, 2009, 08:12 AM

IT's 6 am and it's blowing 20 straight in.

T

Matt Galland

Apr 26, 2009, 11:47 AM

You guys are going to have a blast. My fully ballasted Skorpion and I got a piece of it yesterday at Tick Ridge and it was honking at 30-35. Awesome air. Sorry I'll miss this chance to fly with you guys but best of luck to all.

Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

-Matt

jgs99v

Apr 26, 2009, 08:29 PM

Well - I finally showed up, no race, but good practice.
No tree experience for me - wadda ya know :D Thanks Tim your coacing showed me the yellow brick road. I even got the plane to land within a few feet of me. Gosh.
Great practice, inputs, good practice air. Deceiving if you are not used to it.
We kind of had a race practice last tally when I had to leave was about 9 rounds starting late in the afternoon.
Thanks to Aaron, Tim, Mark, Ken and Matt!
Oh how can I foget "The Caliber" - hummmm very nice tracking plane, very nice design and colors. Mark did a very good job - nice to see it in person - photos do not do it justice.
Well until next time!!!! Still got some learning and tuning to do!

cheers!

jack ~

MarcusT

Apr 27, 2009, 09:21 AM

Just a few Caliber in flight shots . . .

target

Apr 27, 2009, 09:37 AM

Marcus-

Please forward your CG and throw info to me; I have two Calibers that will be hitting my build bench very shortly, and would love to have some preliminary setup info.

It's a very well proportioned bird, looks great in the pics.

Thanks!

Target