the new mini RTF Parkzone Sukhoi [Archive]

Dr. Sandy Frank

Feb 07, 2009, 05:30 PM

How much for BNF?

no official price was quoted

but it was said to be the same as others are...???

also see:

http://web2.airmail.net/sfrank69/NEFI/

see many jpg

Mike McCONVILLE FLEW IT AWESOME..

rolling circles and 3d and all...

see

http://web2.airmail.net/sfrank69/NEFI/

minirips2

Feb 08, 2009, 06:44 AM

How much for BNF?

I asked Mike McConville about pricing, and he was pretty broad in his answer. He said between 100-150 dollars for BNF. I'm sure that's the range we all had in mind, anyway, with a little extra put on both ends for good measure. That being said, the little "Suki" flew like a champ. Harriers, knife egde, snap rolls, and seemingly unlimited vertical. They had two of them there on the floor at the same time. Probably had a bunch of them hidden in their trunk, as well. Weight is around 28 grams, and the flying speed was rather brisk. It would handle a little wind fairly well. They also took abuse well. I saw one smack the (rubberized) floor nose-in on a 30 foot downline, and then fly away. Looks like a winner! I'll be pre-ordering as soon as they'll let me!

Cessna_Flyer

Feb 08, 2009, 10:57 AM

what is the price for the RTF? and when will it hit stores?

quadracer111

Feb 08, 2009, 11:24 AM

I know my next plane :D

minirips2

Feb 08, 2009, 11:51 AM

what is the price for the RTF? and when will it hit stores?

Expect RTF prices to run 30 dollars more than BNF. Units probably won't ship for 6-10 weeks from now. Get in line!
MR2

dribbe

Feb 08, 2009, 03:45 PM

Hi,
Currently there is no plan to offer an RTF (only BNF at the top).
We feel the DX5e is about the minimum tx we want to reccomend with this highly manueverable plane. Tx of choice is available separately (Any DSM2tx or Module system).
It is compatible with the mlp4dsm and other micro tx's, but we feel the experience will be best with a 'full size' tx.
I am thinking the weight they are flying is a little more than 28 grams (including battery), but that is in the ball park.

While as noted, it is capable of many 3D manuevers in the hands of a very skilled pilot, it will not really be positioned as a '3D' aircraft. It will be positioned as an aerobatic aircraft, which it delivers on very well.

Great flying plane.
David

AndyTheLegend

Feb 08, 2009, 03:54 PM

Video?!?!

lightspeeddud

Feb 08, 2009, 05:02 PM

Hi,
Currently there is no plan to offer an RTF (only BNF at the top).
We feel the DX5e is about the minimum tx we want to reccomend with this highly manueverable plane. Tx of choice is available separately (Any DSM2tx or Module system).
It is compatible with the mlp4dsm and other micro tx's, but we feel the experience will be best with a 'full size' tx.
I am thinking the weight they are flying is a little more than 28 grams (including battery), but that is in the ball park.

While as noted, it is capable of many 3D manuevers in the hands of a veryy skilled pilot, it will not really be positioned as a '3D' aircraft. It will be positioned as an aerobatic aircraft, which it delivers on very well.

Great flying plane.
David

when will it be on horizon's website?

Sleepyc

Feb 08, 2009, 09:52 PM

Video?!?!

They would not let us shoot video.
We had to "sneak" the photos.
I'm thinking Toledo will be the official release.
:D

hugocraft

Feb 08, 2009, 10:43 PM

I was there and got a few pics. I got a not so steady video that is only 21 seconds long. Sorry that I didn't know I wasn't allowed to shoot video but there is a sneak peek video on youtube. After seeing it in person I was ready to buy it!!!!!!!! I just have the Vapor and thinking about the Ember 2 BNF. I bought a Dynamic Foamy (http://www.dynamicfoamy.com/) which use the ParkZone gear. My Vapor has hundreds of flights and was looking to put it in a new frame since its a little rough. No landing gear and about a foot of tape on the leading edges to keep the film on. So my question is; what is the difference between the 210/Citabria Motor PKZ3016, the Vapor Motor PKZ3316, and the Ember Motor PKZ3216??? I know they have different gearbox's/props but not sure about the motors. Thanks in advance and but oh well. :) There are some more other peoples pics of it in the RCG Photo Coverage Forum (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997747)

Dr. Sandy Frank

Feb 08, 2009, 10:59 PM

lots more BNF photos of new model here:::

http://web2.airmail.net/sfrank69/NEFI/

Fly Or Die

Feb 08, 2009, 11:52 PM

No rtf? LAME horizon. Real LAME!!! Maybe if it was a pnp but no, you gotta make it bnf, assuming that everyone has your dsm2 radios I take it? Well not all of us do, I fly an airtronics rds8000 (for good reason) so guess what. You just lost my business with this plane (and yes, the su-26 is my favorite aerobatic plane). That was a really really dumb decision. Maybe they will eventually release a rtf version. By then I probably wont care.

PORKCHOP

Feb 09, 2009, 12:46 AM

Fly or Die,

I here what you're saying but I think there is a good reason it's only BNF, you need a pretty good radio to get the most of this little guy. Any "included" radio that did a decent job would put the price over the top I bet. A dx5 is fairly obtainable for this type of plane it you can't use your RDS8000. Problably find a cheap used one.

I really don't think they did it to sell more radio's IMO.

My 2 Cents.

No rtf? LAME horizon. Real LAME!!! Maybe if it was a pnp but no, you gotta make it bnf, assuming that everyone has your dsm2 radios I take it? Well not all of us do, I fly an airtronics rds8000 (for good reason) so guess what. You just lost my business with this plane (and yes, the su-26 is my favorite aerobatic plane). That was a really really dumb decision. Maybe they will eventually release a rtf version. By then I probably wont care.

minirips2

Feb 09, 2009, 06:56 AM

Hugo- As to the different PZ gearbox/prop combos; your best bet is the Cessna/Citabria gearbox. The Ember box is OK from a gear ratio standpoint, but the thrust angle built in is optimized for a high lift wing with a bunch of downthrust. As far as props are concerned, the Citabria prop has a slightly higher pitch, for a bit more top end. The Cessna prop gives a bit more static thrust for climbs. I'm not sure what the Ember prop would do, but it's not that expensive to try!

Spackles94

Feb 09, 2009, 08:44 AM

AllThumbz4RC

Feb 09, 2009, 10:30 AM

The Horizon rep at the show told me that the "official press release" would be in mid to late March with dealer shipping to start a week or two following that.

Of course we all know delays always happen this close to product releases.

-Chad

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Flying Good! Crashing Bad!

Spackles94

Feb 09, 2009, 11:13 AM

One more thing, too... If you don't have a DSM2 radio, there's a pretty good chance that the Vapor/Blade MCX transmitter would work with it... :rolleyes:

Fly Or Die

Feb 09, 2009, 11:28 AM

Eh, I could always get the blade cx tx and use that. If I care enough I might.

MrFlash

Feb 09, 2009, 11:41 AM

They would not let us shoot video.

:confused: Why bring it to a show then not let anyone shoot vid.

Its a public exhibition not Area 51. If you dont want the general public to see it , just dont bring it ...viral marketing strikes again :D

mmcconville

Feb 09, 2009, 11:45 AM

That was a joke. I'm glad to see some vid was shot and posted.

Spackles94

Feb 09, 2009, 11:48 AM

That was a joke. I'm glad to see some vid was shot and posted.

You apparently know how to intimidate. :D :p

Ensign Jimmy

Feb 09, 2009, 12:25 PM

I think the BNF option is actually better. I'd rather have expo and other settings on mine — and while I don't mind the radios that come with the Vapor and such, this plane deserves something a bit spiffier.

Anxiously waiting!
I agree. Something that quick and aerobatic needs a radio with dual-rates, at a minimum. The ability to program in some expo or mix out whatever coupling is present in whichever example of the Sukhoi you buy would be better still.

If one wanted to be really cheap about it, they could use the Tx that comes with the Blade MCx. That has dual-rates on it. Of course, this particular plane looks like it goes much faster than anything else HH makes in that size, so a pilot is going to have to be pretty good to keep the Sukhoi inside the low-power Tx's glitch-free range.

I, personally, will be seeing how much of my tax refund I can put towards a DX7se, so I can put the Sukhoi on it, as I'm completely out of slots on my poor DX6i. I'm definitely going to buy a PZ Sukhoi. I may even buy two of them! And the guts, because they look like just the ticket to make a 16" T-28 Trojan (http://www.guillow.com/GuillowDetail.asp?UID=10429814&Num=1&prod=901&SeriesId=23&FamilyId=1#) conversion work.

unsped

Feb 09, 2009, 12:51 PM

well it's not that i wouldn't put it past horizon to force dsm2 on people, in this case it just makes sense. to keep the weight down you have to integrate the rx into a control board so ARF will never happen for logistical reasons. plus by standardizing on a control scheme you don't end up with 10 identical AA eating remotes only good for a single toy.

Dr. Sandy Frank

Feb 09, 2009, 02:16 PM

That was a joke. I'm glad to see some vid was shot and posted.

the JR guys were graceous and helpful
with a pre release product..

they let me photo anything flying and lots of it

I even missed an am session

and they told me to come back after lunch for another session

seldom is a model "MUST HAVE"

but I am saving a slot on a DX7 for one asap...

windless it will be a hoot outdoors...

kenstogie

Feb 09, 2009, 02:59 PM

unsped

Feb 09, 2009, 03:30 PM

it is unlikely that it is epp style foam like the trojan as its just too heavy for micros, i would guess its the same type of foam the ember wings are made from. but given the small mass it will hold up ok. maybe im wrong though

Dr. Sandy Frank

Feb 09, 2009, 03:50 PM

What is it made of? Looking at it I guess it's the same foam as the T-28 or Corsair? And how durable to the old "smash nose first into the ground" is it? I do like the price and will probably get one. Wish they made cheaper rx's for DSM2, though. JM2Cents worth.

looks to be molded white Styrofoam

it is tuff as a boot

McConivlle

smacked the floor

and into other models in the air

he just picked it up and flew it...

it is NOT a beginners model....

it is a fully aerobatic """"Sukhoi""""

it is above an intermediate when really wrung out

but it has little tip stall tendancies

so if you hold off it should b no sweat...

34Ford

Feb 09, 2009, 03:58 PM

:confused: Why bring it to a show then not let anyone shoot vid.

Its a public exhibition not Area 51. If you dont want the general public to see it , just dont bring it ...viral marketing strikes again :D

I posted this over on wattflyer and it was deleted. :confused:

http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/attachments/2/3/5/2/6/0/a2319050-9-PKZ3580-400.jpg

Noticed the sites that showed it also have been removed.

______
Dennis

maxim1100

Feb 09, 2009, 04:01 PM

I hope it will have enough power for verticle.

9LIVES1968

Feb 09, 2009, 11:50 PM

Looks like a very capable flyer. I look forward to the release.

minirips2

Feb 10, 2009, 06:37 AM

I hope it will have enough power for verticle.

It does have enough power to go straight up. It's not a hovering monster like some brushless foamies, but power looks to be more than adequate with good airspeed management
MR2

Dr. Sandy Frank

Feb 10, 2009, 08:11 AM

It does have enough power to go straight up. It's not a hovering monster like some brushless foamies, but power looks to be more than adequate with good airspeed management
MR2

it is a one cell lipo system..

not overly powered but enuff....

I am sure a HACK will be done soon...

can you say bigger battery???

minirips2

Feb 10, 2009, 09:13 AM

it is a one cell lipo system..

not overly powered but enuff....

I am sure a HACK will be done soon...

can you say bigger battery???

No, but I can say 2-gram brushless upgrade! A plane like this will go ballistic if given the right power. Power seems good stock, but how long have any of us left anything stock?
MR2

Spackles94

Feb 10, 2009, 09:57 AM

The thing is not even on the Web site yet, and y'all already thinking of a mod for it?!? :p

skyjet

Feb 10, 2009, 10:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxIs76Z9bFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA9Z_8YAMd0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcAWXlS-Qe0

Spackles94

Feb 10, 2009, 10:13 PM

Awesome videos -- thanks for sharing!

kmart

Feb 11, 2009, 07:38 PM

MikeBiv

Feb 11, 2009, 08:46 PM

A DX7 is a Must have make servos work so much better.

Love the Video! Looking forward to Flying this one!

skyjet

Feb 11, 2009, 09:48 PM

I was there talking to the rep that was flying it and he didn't know how it will be sold when launched (RTF or BNF). The Vapor, Ember 2, and the mcx heli are all DSM2 already and the Sukhoi will be an addition to that line but is a 4 channel model. I love this line of models. I did not have a DSM2 transmitter either but I decided to get a DX6i which will hold 10 models that I use for BNF only. That way I don't have a seperate controller for each model. I bought the DX6i (radio only) for less than $100 new on ebay. I have 2 BNF's already and the Sukhoi will be my third. It costs $30 extra for the RTF's. So after I get the Sukhoi it will finish paying for the DX6i compared to buying 3 RTF's.

800mZero

Feb 23, 2009, 04:26 PM

after flying my new vapor around the yard this past weekend I am stoked for this one---to be able to hover and harrier in my driveway,or in the parking lot suring lunch is a dream come true when i dont have enough time to go to the field.

Rcflying boy

Feb 23, 2009, 05:24 PM

I'm so ancsious for the release of this little bugger. .


kenstogie

Feb 24, 2009, 09:00 AM

I'm so ancsious for the release of this little bugger. .

When is it coming out? Last i heard was April May but didn't know if there was an "adjustment" Sign me up for a BNF.

A-10_Flyer

Feb 24, 2009, 12:53 PM

When is it coming out? Last i heard was April May but didn't know if there was an "adjustment" Sign me up for a BNF.
Sign me up too, I am getting my DX6i either Wednesday or Thursday of this week, I sure do hope it's a BNF not just RTF.

800mZero

Feb 24, 2009, 01:26 PM

from what I have been reading it is going to be bnf.

Spackles94

Feb 24, 2009, 01:26 PM

Sign me up too, I am getting my DX6i either Wednesday or Thursday of this week, I sure do hope it's a BNF not just RTF.

We've already been told it won't be an RTF, so you have nothing to worry about.

Plus, you have a rockin' TX now! :)

Steve4ustin

Feb 24, 2009, 03:17 PM

Can anyone suggest a good place to get a DX6i at a reasonalble price?

I suppose I have a little bit of time until the Sukhoi is actaully available.

minirips2

Feb 24, 2009, 03:33 PM

Can anyone suggest a good place to get a DX6i at a reasonalble price?

I suppose I have a little bit of time until the Sukhoi is actaully available.

Wherever you get it, make sure it's a new one. Spektrum had a run of bad stick potentiometers, resulting in a recall notice. You wouldn't want to find out you had a bad pot by making a hole in the ground!
MR2

Steve4ustin

Feb 24, 2009, 04:39 PM

Thanks for the heads up on that.

So any place I should check to get a good price on a NEW one? :)

kmart

Feb 24, 2009, 05:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up on that.

So any place I should check to get a good price on a NEW one? :)
ebay has good prices ;)

jettvolks

Feb 25, 2009, 08:19 AM

Thanks for the heads up on that.

So any place I should check to get a good price on a NEW one? :)

PM a fellow here by the name of Powerlines. I know he sells alot of the DX7's and he might be able to hook you up with a DX6I. If not him I have seen alot of guys recommending Todds Models for Spektrum radios.

Randy (DX7 user and wouldn't have it any other way ;) )

SixDeuces

Feb 25, 2009, 09:35 AM

PM a fellow here by the name of Powerlines. I know he sells alot of the DX7's and he might be able to hook you up with a DX6I. If not him I have seen alot of guys recommending Todds Models for Spektrum radios.

Randy (DX7 user and wouldn't have it any other way ;) )

Try dirtcheaprc.com. They deal in RC cars primarily, but carry the full line of JR radios. I got my X9303 from them. Service was excellent, and they had the absolute lowest price on the net. Todds is good too, they were within a few bucks of each other. I've bought from Powerlines as well, and he was great too. Between those three you can't go wrong.

I can't wait to get my hands on this model. First thing it's going to get is a paint job though! Can't have it looking like everyone else's!

Jesse

Spackles94

Feb 25, 2009, 09:39 AM

Try dirtcheaprc.com. They deal in RC cars primarily, but carry the full line of JR radios. I got my X9303 from them. Service was excellent, and they had the absolute lowest price on the net. Todds is good too, they were within a few bucks of each other. I've bought from Powerlines as well, and he was great too. Between those three you can't go wrong.

I can't wait to get my hands on this model. First thing it's going to get is a paint job though! Can't have it looking like everyone else's!

Jesse

As long as you keep it light... :)

I'd think that's part of the reason it didn't get much bling-bling to begin with... Every gram matters. :)

SixDeuces

Feb 25, 2009, 10:25 AM

As long as you keep it light... :)

I'd think that's part of the reason it didn't get much bling-bling to begin with... Every gram matters. :)

You're absolutely right. You can do wonders with an airbrush and carefully selected paints or dyes. The trick is thin coats and minimum coverage, as well as leaving as much unpainted as you can stand.

Spackles94

Feb 25, 2009, 11:24 AM

You're absolutely right. You can do wonders with an airbrush and carefully selected paints or dyes. The trick is thin coats and minimum coverage, as well as leaving as much unpainted as you can stand.

You're right -- plus, you're dealing with white foam (which is a good base to paint on). Acrylics would be a good (and lightweight) choice.

Once again... The product is not even on the Web site, and we're already discussing mods! :D

A-10_Flyer

Feb 25, 2009, 02:56 PM

We've already been told it won't be an RTF, so you have nothing to worry about.

Plus, you have a rockin' TX now! :)
Yep, and it is all thanks to your review here spackles :D I can't wait, it's only in Sylmar, CA and I live in Moreno Valley, CA. Well only 10 weeks until i got the money for this special little bird, that is if it is $150USD or lower.

Spackles94

Feb 25, 2009, 03:20 PM

Yep, and it is all thanks to your review here spackles :D I can't wait, it's only in Sylmar, CA and I live in Moreno Valley, CA. Well only 10 weeks until i got the money for this special little bird, that is if it is $150USD or lower.

Haha... I do what I can. It really was a fine product to review. :)

A-10_Flyer

Feb 25, 2009, 03:34 PM

Haha... I do what I can. It really was a fine product to review. :)
I only found one mistake. It wast the caption under one of the pictures and it said something like: "What? No battery back? No, indeed...." when it should be battery pack, but i knew what you meant. ;)
I even printed it for my dad to read and see what i was getting, thanks again for posting it.

Spackles94

Feb 25, 2009, 03:38 PM

I only found one mistake. It wast the caption under one of the pictures and it said something like: "What? No battery back? No, indeed...." when it should be battery pack, but i knew what you meant. ;)
I even printed it for my dad to read and see what i was getting, thanks again for posting it.

Grrrr... my career is doomed now! :p

Well, glad you enjoyed it -- that's what I work hard for, so folks can learn something. :)

(Even if it's only learning about spelling. ;))

A-10_Flyer

Feb 25, 2009, 03:39 PM

Grrrr... my career is doomed now! :p

Well, glad you enjoyed it -- that's what I work hard for, so folks can learn something. :)

(Even if it's only learning about spelling. ;))
LOL! yeah right, only if you knew how many time i have misspelled today your head would spin faster than a brushless motor :eek:

Spackles94

Feb 25, 2009, 03:54 PM

LOL! yeah right, only if you knew how many time i have misspelled today your head would spin faster than a brushless motor :eek:

Ha! That's what we have spilcehker for. ;)

A-10_Flyer

Feb 25, 2009, 03:57 PM

Ha! That's what we have spilcehker for. ;)
lolz yeah that why we have one of them.

kenstogie

Feb 25, 2009, 04:07 PM

Although not a HZ, I did get to see a Kyosho 4 ch micro this weekend. Nice but he crashed it in the Dome and bent the motor spindle. It flew good but since i didn't get behing the sticks I can't really say. It cost him 160 or so as I recall.

minirips2

Feb 26, 2009, 06:38 AM

Sukhoi is now on the Horizon website! 99 bucks BNF! Go getcha sum!

Spackles94

Feb 26, 2009, 07:46 AM

Lookie here! http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ3580

minirips2

Feb 26, 2009, 08:49 AM

Lookie here! http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ3580
Don't forget to check out the replcement parts list. 6-channel brick with two servos for sixty bucks? Insane! Twenty bucks for the servo isn't cheap, but figure on eighty bucks for 4-channel gear for micros with six channel capability! Actually, its cheaper to just buy the whole plane for parts, and get the aileron belcrank and pushrods as part of the deal. I'm pretty excited right now! End of March can't come fast enough.

Spackles94

Feb 26, 2009, 09:09 AM

Don't forget to check out the replcement parts list. 6-channel brick with two servos for sixty bucks? Insane! Twenty bucks for the servo isn't cheap, but figure on eighty bucks for 4-channel gear for micros with six channel capability! Actually, its cheaper to just buy the whole plane for parts, and get the aileron belcrank and pushrods as part of the deal. I'm pretty excited right now! End of March can't come fast enough.

Yeah, but the receiver is cool enough that you might want to use it for something else. :)

Steve4ustin

Feb 26, 2009, 09:12 AM

Looks like that tail wheel is steerable too! Nice! :D

A-10_Flyer

Feb 26, 2009, 09:53 AM

To damn cool! i only have one more month until i got the money and then it's mine! thanks for telling s all minirip!

Spackles94

Feb 26, 2009, 10:07 AM

Late April now, according to Horizon (on the other thread). :o

A-10_Flyer

Feb 26, 2009, 10:10 AM

Late April now, according to Horizon (on the other thread). :o That's great news, i will have the cash to buy it then! I am so happy because my DX6i comes today and this little bird is BNF for sure now.

aviatordave

Feb 26, 2009, 10:23 AM

I now am faced with a problem. Pay now and wait 2 months or wait 2 months and pay then. decisions......decisions....

A-10_Flyer

Feb 26, 2009, 10:26 AM

I now am faced with a problem. Pay now and wait 2 months or wait 2 months and pay then. decisions......decisions....
I think pay now would be your best bet, because then you will have it for sure then and won't have to worry about them becoming sold out.

Spackles94

Feb 26, 2009, 11:03 AM

Pay now, buy another in two months. ;)

minirips2

Feb 26, 2009, 11:13 AM

I don't think Horizon charges your card until they ship, so you don't have to decide between paying now or later...At least that's my recollection from waiting for the Vapor.(Seems like a long time ago, now. My, how time flies!)

aviatordave

Feb 26, 2009, 11:28 AM

well it comes to $12.50 per week if you break it down into 8 weeks.

Seems reasonable

cactus

Feb 26, 2009, 02:42 PM

Can't quite tell from the photos, but does it have a real airfoiled wing or is it flat? What do you guys think about motor life etc...

aviatordave

Feb 26, 2009, 03:02 PM

if you watch this video, it seems to look like it has an airfoil -

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/Files/PKZ3580_hi.wmv

800mZero

Feb 26, 2009, 03:55 PM

money will put away for this one----I am stoked!

kenstogie

Feb 26, 2009, 03:58 PM

if you watch this video, it seems to look like it has an airfoil -

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/Files/PKZ3580_hi.wmv
Nice Vid. Best one yet. 99 bucks is pretty good I think.
Are the servos the same as in the MCX?

simionla

Feb 26, 2009, 09:23 PM

Well Horizon has announced that the Sukhoi will be available in the middle of March and MAP is $99.99 BNF only. They are bringing it out BNF only because it is NOT a beginner plane. If you would like to Pre-book one to buy please let me know. Thanks Sue
www.lukesrcplanes.com

foam and tape

Feb 26, 2009, 09:49 PM

Dora Nine

Feb 27, 2009, 03:07 AM

A question to anyone who got to watch this plane fly in person. I see that that it not a direct drive. I'm curious to know if the plane is noisy like the Citabria is? Or is it quiet like the Vapor? Thanks.

johnkielsen

Feb 27, 2009, 03:27 AM

dribbe

Feb 27, 2009, 10:58 AM

Hej Dora Nine.
I have a Kyosho EDGE 540, same motor-gearbox and prop, it is noisy, not much, but more than EMBER and Vapor and less than Cessna-CITABRIA. I don't now why, but hollow fuselage do it more noisy
John

For the record... It is certainly not the same prop.... Don't think it is the same motor or gearbox.

David

johnkielsen

Feb 27, 2009, 12:14 PM

Sorry David
Same color, looks like same size, pretty much the same gearratio. I am pretty sure, but you now.
John

dribbe

Feb 27, 2009, 02:06 PM

Motor is about an 8.5mm variety.... I am thinking the edge motor is smaller... The Sukhoi has vertical thrust to spare at 34g.

David

Ken Fidler

Feb 27, 2009, 03:34 PM

Hi David,
How is life treating you? Not to sure you remember me but we flew together many many years ago (1986 or so) at West Orange Sun Fliers near Valencia Community College in Orlando. How is working for Horizon?

PM me if you have some time, I tried sending you a PM but your box was full.

Ken Fidler

dribbe

Feb 27, 2009, 03:54 PM

Ken Fidler

Feb 27, 2009, 04:22 PM

Yep!
Sending PM... cleared some messages....

David

PMed your message.

Ken

Dora Nine

Feb 28, 2009, 04:50 PM

Thanks for the help. Just have to wait and see I guess.

skyjet

Feb 28, 2009, 06:23 PM

I saw this this thing fly at E fest and I knew I had to have one! I just got myself in line at Horizon. I just ordered two. One for spare parts.

bob2fly

Mar 02, 2009, 11:06 AM

kenstogie

Mar 02, 2009, 03:55 PM

100 beans is pretty cheap but just like remingtonmoney is in the parts and they are not cheap. Might be better off buying two like skyjet mentioned.

minirips2

Mar 02, 2009, 04:27 PM

100 beans is pretty cheap but just like remingtonmoney is in the parts and they are not cheap. Might be better off buying two like skyjet mentioned.

Absolutely. For 99 bucks, you get prop, gearbox, motor, brick, servo, airframe, battery, charger, landing gear, belcrank, and even batteries for the charger! Try pricing that out as spares!

simionla

Mar 02, 2009, 05:27 PM

turns out the date was a typo? its supposed to come out around late april to early may? :( :(

heres the thread (one of the horizon reps told about the error) :p
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1007798

Yes that is right, now it is April 20th, or could be later, you know Horizon! guess I won't have it in time for the Toledo show. But who wants a Kyosho Piper Cherokee, I probably could have some of them for that show, would have to check to see if they will be back in for that!!

skyjet

Mar 02, 2009, 06:18 PM

Of course money is a big factor on priorities with this hobby, but at $99 I decided to order a second one for the parts. I did that for my Ember 2 and I'm now flying #2 and using the first one for parts. You will also have 2 batteries and two chargers.

Also, I bought a DX6i for BNF only. I bought it new for $100 on ebay. The DX6i is a computer radio and will hold 10 models and I'm real happy with the radio. It's a good radio for the field or BNF. I think most people with the 5 channel, non computer, one model radio will upgrade to a computer radio at some point, so you might as well put that money into a DX6i.

Electric or bust! 9 inch to 110 inch.

ChargerF18

Mar 02, 2009, 08:33 PM

Skyjet,

Point me in the right direction, I have been looking for a DX6i, i would kill to get for a $100 bucks!!

David Hogue

Mar 02, 2009, 09:08 PM

Hi David,
I am moving up from the Vapor and do not plan to do aerobatics with the Sukhoi, therefore what issues will I have by using a LP5DSM tx?
Also, what is the wing loading of the plane?
Thanks for the info.
Bob

Bob,

I have read somewhere they dont reccommend the small rtf tx's because they dont have the stick feel of the full size ones. Your lp5 should be fine.
I'm just curious though, if you don't plan to do aerobatics, then why buy an airplane that is specificly designed to do them?