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jeanmarie
Mar 14, 2003, 06:02 AM
hello
i acquired a heli-baby helico
http://clubelectro.free.fr/baby.htm
it is complete
i mounted a TT36 motor
i search any experience and information about this helicopter
is it hard to pilot ?
i already pilot an another helico
the anticouple belt is it strong ?
thanks in advance
bye
Jean-Marie HERIAT
http://clubelectro.free.fr
Mike
Mar 14, 2003, 10:12 AM
Schluter made two types of this helicopter, the Heli-baby which was fixed
pitch, and the "Super" Heli-baby that was collective pitch.
It seems as if you have the fixed pitch model.
Although metal construction, it was always too heavy, and too badly made. The
side frames used to work their way loose from the undercarriage due to the
single bolt fixing on each cross-strut.
The head was plagued with imbalance and was almost impossible to set up
properly.
If yours still has the original tail belt drive, you will find that after about
5 flights either the aluminium toothed drive wheels will have smoothed
themselves to resemble two ball bearings, or the tail belt will have
disintegrated into a billion particles of green dust, or both.
You can try tight tension or loose tension, but it will still happen.
You will find it a lot more difficult to fly than more modern helicopters, and
it seems a waste to tie up a perfectly good engine, gyro, radio gear etc on a
model that will only reward you with problems and dis-satisfaction.
You will also have problems locating spares if you need them.
On saying that, it is a brilliant piece of model helicopter history, and given
the chance, I would buy one (again), although not to fly it.
Good luck
Peter Christy
Mar 14, 2003, 12:02 PM
You will also find that the fixed pitch head is fully teetering with no
restraints! If the rotor-disk is allowed to approach the vertical (ie a very
steep turn) you lose all cyclic control!
(No, I have no idea why, but trust me - you do!)
--
Pete
christy@NOSPAMattglobal.net
(make the obvious amendments to reply!)
Beav
Mar 14, 2003, 03:02 PM
"jeanmarie" <heriat.jm@@@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:19d37vsdugl0u1e94qb8k9lqofnetbl2v7@4ax.com...
> hello
>
> i acquired a heli-baby helico
>
> http://clubelectro.free.fr/baby.htm
>
> it is complete
>
> i mounted a TT36 motor
>
> i search any experience and information about this helicopter
Read and understand everything Mike and Pete have just said. Then put that
Heli-baby on the shelf and forget it's a helicopter. The origianl needed a
good 40 engine anyway and even with one, they were a handful when you HAD
control and a disaster when you didn't. (Pete's comments abut losing control
at certain disc attitudes is DEAD right).
The ali paddles on the flybar made response sluggish at best, and the
2000+rpm of the main rotor made it a nasty heli to make contact with when it
was running. Poor control could make that a reality VERY easily.
--
Beav
Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)
Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
Mike
Mar 14, 2003, 04:12 PM
You just reminded me about the ali paddles Beav...... I doubled the surface
area by glueing on some balsa wood and then shaping it to the profile of the
paddles. It made them easier to find when they flew off into the long grass
for no apparent reason!!
The engine was started by means of a pull cord...my, how I loved that thing.
Pull....slash grass behind me....rethread.
Pull....slash colleagues standing round waiting for it to do
something...rethread.
Pull....scatter belongings out of flight box...rethread.
Pull....start.....lift off.....tip over.....collect up the bits....go home....
Those were the days...
Beav
Mar 14, 2003, 07:52 PM
"Mike" <mikespruce99@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030314160354.22366.00000058@mb-ms.aol.com...
> You just reminded me about the ali paddles Beav...... I doubled the
surface
> area by glueing on some balsa wood and then shaping it to the profile of
the
> paddles.
A classic Kavan "trick" when they brought out their "Expert" version of the
Jet Ranger. I did it with the Heli-baby too, but that was the collective
version.
It made them easier to find when they flew off into the long grass
> for no apparent reason!!
Probably because they weighed slightly more than a small African nation:-)
>
> The engine was started by means of a pull cord...my, how I loved that
thing.
> Pull....slash grass behind me....rethread.
I had a "re-joinable" rubber belt thing that was joind with a soldering iron
(or fag lighter if it snapped at the field). Spin, clunk, spin, clunk as the
joint ran around the pulleys:-)
> Pull....slash colleagues standing round waiting for it to do
> something...rethread.
> Pull....scatter belongings out of flight box...rethread.
> Pull....start.....lift off.....tip over.....collect up the bits....go
home....
I remember them days well, but you forgot the "bent main shaft straightened
with a couple of bricks" trick to allow us to stay out a little longer.
>
> Those were the days...
But would we go BACK to 'em? I doubt it:-)
--
Beav
Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)
Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
jeanmarie
Mar 15, 2003, 04:02 AM
thanks to all
for the details
bye
Jean-Marie
http://clubelectro.free.fr
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