EHBG/Electric Helicopter Beginner's Guide

[Spidious]

If you are a beginner, it would be a good idea to read it.
Many answers to your questions can be found in it.

FAQ - EHBG/Electric Helicopter Beginner's Guide (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=584463)


Note: It is not written by me, just trying to direct you to the area for some possible answers to your questions...

[TMorita]

BTW, I sent a message to the mods asking for the EHBG thread to be moved to this forum, but they won't do it for some reason.

I don't understand why.

Toshi

[grnbrg]

BTW, I sent a message to the mods asking for the EHBG thread to be moved to this forum, but they won't do it for some reason.

I don't understand why.Probably referenced in its current location in eleventy-bazillion places all over the web. Even if the url doesn't change, people know where to find it. Moving it will cause endless confusion.

Since you are the author of the original EHBG thread, and since it hasn't been updated for a couple of years, why not make a cut 'n paste of it in a new thread here?


grnbrg.

[TMorita]

I've asked the mods to sticky this thread, since they won't sticky the main EHBG thread.

Toshi

[grnbrg]

Heh. The original thread has been moved. :D


grnbrg.

[Gadget01]

I hear some negative comments about the EHBG by some, that it's outdated. The only thing outdated are some of the models mentioned and power systems. I have no experience with A123 cells, but I've read many posts by those that have great success with them. It sounds like they are an ideal beginner's power source.

I've heard the question, "what it the best choice for my first CP heli" asked countless times. The majority answer over the past year or so is the Swift 16, yet there is no mention of the Swift in the EHBG.

The Corona 120 and Eco 8 need to be removed, since they are no longer practical beginner helis for various reasons- lack of available new kits, lack of reasonably priced replacement parts, etc.

[TMorita]

I hear some negative comments about the EHBG by some, that it's outdated. The only thing outdated are some of the models mentioned and power systems. I have no experience with A123 cells, but I've read many posts by those that have great success with them. It sounds like they are an ideal beginner's power source.

I've heard the question, "what it the best choice for my first CP heli" asked countless times. The majority answer over the past year or so is the Swift 16, yet there is no mention of the Swift in the EHBG.

The Corona 120 and Eco 8 need to be removed, since they are no longer practical beginner helis for various reasons- lack of available new kits, lack of reasonably priced replacement parts, etc.

The EHBG has never advocated the ECO 8 as a beginner's helicopter, although it is mentioned in there. It's still available - check out http://www.fxaeromodels.com and http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de.

I write most of the content for the EHBG, and Mark Pearson has been handling most of the formatting, but Mark hasn't been working on the EHBG for about two years. That's why it hasn't been updated.

I'm trying to contact him to get ahold of the master files used to generate the PDF/HTML versions so I can update it myself.

Toshi

[jasmine2501]

I've heard the question, "what it the best choice for my first CP heli" asked countless times. The majority answer over the past year or so is the Swift 16, yet there is no mention of the Swift in the EHBG.


What? Huh? I must be on a different interwebs... :confused:

[blade strike]

I've asked the mods to sticky this thread, since they won't sticky the main EHBG thread.

Toshi


Toshi -

I dont know why someone felt to start a thread like this :rolleyes: You have done it all 10x over. Thanks for all your hard work :cool:

[Gadget01]

What? Huh? I must be on a different interwebs... :confused:Yeah, perhaps. Peruse the Large Electric Helis forum (http://www.rcgroups.com/large-electric-helis-592/) and the Tales of Everyone's Swift thread (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=880848) to get the full picture.

In short:

-it's big (relatively) .30 nitro size equivalent (515mm to 555mm main blades)- easier to see, stable, auto's with lots of float time, easy to work on, easily handles winds that would be scary to fly micro's in, will accommodate A123 pack configurations, reacts slower to control inputs which gives you more time to make corrections and allows very precise control

-uses standard size servos, for the widest selection range to accommodate budget setups to the ultimate brushless digitals

-durable/forgiving- I've crashed it onto pavement- the frame only broke where the rear landing gear strut attaches, the plastic canopy is nearly indestructable

-inexpensive replacement parts- frame: $12, tailboom: $4, main gear: $6, etc available at several well-known online vendors

-upgrade parts (metal head/tail, etc) are reasonably priced

-supports a wide range of power systems for mild beginnings to all-out 3D


It's not perfect, and Century is soon releasing a refined design, called the Swift NX. It's also the only heli in this size class available as either a kit or an RTF package. This is not fanboy rhetoric- these are simply the facts.

[Gadget01]

The EHBG has never advocated the ECO 8 as a beginner's helicopter, although it is mentioned in there. It's still available - check out http://www.fxaeromodels.com and http://www.ikarus-modellbau.de.I am aware that it is still available, but it's expensive and delicate- both attributes that make it less than ideal as a beginner's heli. I still fly and enjoy both of my Eco 8 helis, for what that's worth. It was my 2nd heli after the Corona 120.

And go figure... word is out the Corona is back on the market: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996072

Toshi, I think the EHBG is still a fine document as it is, and I recommend it very often. With some updates, it would be even better. My only intention here is to make a positive contribution to that end.

[Jimbo45cn]

I am aware that it is still available, but it's expensive and delicate- both attributes that make it less than ideal as a beginner's heli. I still fly and enjoy both of my Eco 8 helis, for what that's worth. It was my 2nd heli after the Corona 120.

And go figure... word is out the Corona is back on the market: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996072

Toshi, I think the EHBG is still a fine document as it is, and I recommend it very often. With some updates, it would be even better. My only intention here is to make a positive contribution to that end.

I still fly my Eco every chance I get, and it was my 2nd heli and my CP trainer. Also it's still available from Hobby Lobby.

[osterizer]

Man, Gadget, thanks for pointing that out- I wanted to get a Corona 'way back when and didn't for the abovementioned reasons of distribution and parts. I had already gotten very interested in the Funcopter, but I didn't recognize the Corona cues. It always seemed like a great set of ideas in one heli, and it's great to see they're coming back again. Here's hoping it's over here soon.