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CHAD.
Feb 02, 2009, 10:33 PM
Hey people
My name is Chad and I'm very new to rc. I have purchased a honey bee king 2 and i'm unsure of how the controls should be set ie the left stick currently works pushing forward the helicoptor flys forward and back respectivly.Left the hellicoptors nose go's left (rudder)
the right stick forward (throttle). Left right (Aileron) left and right of helicoptor.
The unit was purchased in AU so I was wondering if any one could help me figure out in the contoler setup as it feel like the rudder and the Aileron should swap each other so all the swash plate control for left right forward and back were on the left and throttle and rudder on the right and can i change it to do what i want.
Please help
Thanks Chad
jasmine2501
Feb 02, 2009, 11:05 PM
What you've got there is a "mode 1" setup. This is possibly the way people in Australia fly them, but I don't know. Your explanation is very confusing.
Over here in USA we fly "mode 2" which is throttle (Collective) on the left stick vertical axis, and rudder (heading) on the left stick horizontal axis. This puts all the cyclic controls on the right stick.
Which thing is correct depends on what everyone else does in your area. You are free to pick whatever setup you personally prefer, but if it's not the norm for your area of the world, then nobody will be able to fly your helicopter for you.
CHAD.
Feb 02, 2009, 11:33 PM
sorry for the confusing explination it's like trying to speak a new language.
the setup you have sounds good but im not sure how people in oz set it up think it would be better for me to have all the cyclic controls on the left stick
and heading and throttle on the right stick.
is there a way of changing the modes to the same as you run it?
Chad
Balr14
Feb 02, 2009, 11:36 PM
Is that the standard E-Sky transmitter?
CHAD.
Feb 02, 2009, 11:38 PM
Is that the standard E-Sky transmitter?
yep the one that come in the box.
Are my hands tied for changes?
Chad
jasmine2501
Feb 03, 2009, 12:01 AM
I don't think you can change it. Are you left-handed? You seem to be suggesting a setup that I don't think anybody uses.
grnbrg
Feb 03, 2009, 08:58 AM
You can change it to Mode 2 -- You'd have to open the TX and swap the spring and friction plate so that the throttle is smooth and the elevator is self-centering. There is a DIP switch that will then swap the controls. However what you have outlined in the OP is a mirror image of Mode 2. Mode 2 has throttle and rudder on the left stick, not the right.
And from what I've seen other posters say, Australia is most commonly Mode 1 -- go visit (or phone) a LHS and find out. As someone who has frequently gone my own way on things "because it will be easier..." -- it rarely is. You will regret having a non-standard setup. And if you're just starting out, learning one over the other will not be any more difficult.
grnbrg.
FLYGUY09
Feb 03, 2009, 09:04 AM
And from what I've seen other posters say, Australia is most commonly Mode 1 -- go visit (or phone) a LHS and find out. As someone who has frequently gone my own way on things "because it will be easier..." -- it rarely is. You will regret having a non-standard setup. And if you're just starting out, learning one over the other will not be any more difficult.
grnbrg.
Yes, go visit your LHS and aks for some help on setup, including how to pre-flight checks on your heli. Obviously they'll see a potential new customer and will be more than willing to assist and probably give you advice, while you're there, beyond just setting up the transmitter. He/She could also let you know of local flying clubs that more times than not have volunteers (if you join the club) to tutor you. It's worth every penny if you afford the club dues.
Andrew McGregor
Feb 04, 2009, 12:09 AM
On this side of the Tasman, new heli flyers mostly fly mode 2 and plane flyers mostly mode 1. I notice the mode 2 heli pilots improve MUCH FASTER. I don't think the fact that mode 1 heli pilots have mostly flown planes is the reason, I think it's that mode 1 does bad things to your coordination flying helis. Fullsize machines put both axes of cyclic on the same stick for a reason, mode 1 is just crazy for helis. For planes, I gather there's little difference in practice.
jasmine2501
Feb 04, 2009, 12:18 AM
Thanks Andrew! I kinda thought so... have the cyclic on two different sticks doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
yogibbear
Feb 04, 2009, 04:36 AM
On this side of the Tasman Mode 1 is standard...
i.e. New Zealand =! Australia... :D
Andrew McGregor
Feb 04, 2009, 04:46 AM
Oh, I know that.
Doesn't mean the standard answer is the right answer.
CHAD.
Feb 05, 2009, 06:26 PM
On this side of the Tasman, new heli flyers mostly fly mode 2 and plane flyers mostly mode 1. I notice the mode 2 heli pilots improve MUCH FASTER. I don't think the fact that mode 1 heli pilots have mostly flown planes is the reason, I think it's that mode 1 does bad things to your coordination flying helis. Fullsize machines put both axes of cyclic on the same stick for a reason, mode 1 is just crazy for helis. For planes, I gather there's little difference in practice.
Yeah this setup doesn't feel right I would prefer to control cyclic on one stick
I have order the phieix simulator to run with my controler hope this will save the heli for real flight.
Thanks everyone for your input :D
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