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corsha99
Jan 29, 2009, 12:39 PM
First I will admit that I am a novice when it comes to electric planes. I have a typhoon 3d and a Ultimate Bipe that are electric but small in comparison to my question.

I am designing a sport scale P38 for my "business" that originally is set up to use 31cc ryobis for power. I think I want to go with electric though to simplify the propulsion system and take the risk out of having mismatched thrust, etc. What would be a good starting point for the propulsion? I am leaning towards a geared system to swing the bigger props and to keep the amps down.

P38 will be about 20ish pounds with a span of about 10 ft. Don't remember the wingloading off the top of my head. Max prop diameter is 18". I live in Denver so need a system that can perform at altitude (~5600 ft where I fly)

Thanks for the help,
Cory
gotgasradiocontrol.com

mpope1
Jan 29, 2009, 09:36 PM
I have a 90" p-38 powered by twin hacker a50-16s motors(6s lipo's per motor). It weighs about 18 lbs. A 10 ft w.s. would probably be more then 20 lbs. Is it scratch build, or a kit?

corsha99
Jan 30, 2009, 10:46 AM
For me it is a scratch build that will eventually become a kit. I know how to keep them very light (balsa, light ply, minimal good ply) but that equals not damage tolerant. My sport aerobatic model weighs in at 11 lbs with a ryobi in the nose. 87" span, 1000 sq in wing.

Lynxman
Jan 30, 2009, 11:01 AM
18" is pretty small props for a plane that large. The scale diameter would be ~26".

A couple of Hacker A50 16L on 8S will probably spin an APCE 18x10 prop with great performance on a 20 lbs plane. I haven't tried the combo though.

corsha99
Jan 30, 2009, 12:00 PM
It is not a true scale. Wingspan is larger than what it would normally be to help with flyability. Ryobis up here don't like to swing anything bigger than 20" on slow, trainer types. I use 16" on faster models.

Design is such that you can fit up to 20" with a bit of clearance to the center fuse. Guess I need to readdress that when using a different motor.

Lynxman
Jan 30, 2009, 12:11 PM
Ok, I see.

172AMD
Feb 01, 2009, 11:24 PM
mpope1, What props are you running on those Hacker A50-16s motors? Amps, watts?

Thanks Dave.

mpope1
Feb 02, 2009, 09:34 PM
On 5s 17x10, on 6s 16x10. Trying to keep the amps around the mid 60's around 1300 watts per side on 6s. My ultimate goal was to use the apc 15 3/4 x 13 3 bladed but didn't want to spend the extra cash on spinners.

172AMD
Feb 04, 2009, 10:34 AM
Thanks mpope1