Crash...

[Dave]

Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.

After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old Shuttle
Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and hit
the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!

Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?

Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the Jet
Ranger look.

Any info would be great, thanks
Dave

[Jack W. Fessler, Jr.]

Hi Dave,

If it's a boom strike, I'd just get the parts that I need, preferably from
Hirobo. From the sounds of it, you didn't do any rotor head damage which, to
my knowledge, is what most crash kits concentrate on. In this case, you'd
have a lot of bits you don't need right now. If you're in the learning
stage, no real need for upgrade parts.

If you can afford it at this point, your best bet is to invest in a Sim,
probably CSM is the most recommended in this group.

Am in the U.S. so don't know of any suppliers over your way. As far as
fuselages, check with Century Helicopter.

Best,

Jack

"Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:G4l9a.60735$jM5.155177@newsfeeds.bigpond.com. ..
> Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
>
> After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old
Shuttle
> Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and
hit
> the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
> tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
>
> Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
> crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
> exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
> whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
> just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
> Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
>
> Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the Jet
> Ranger look.
>
> Any info would be great, thanks
> Dave
>
>

[MPA]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:15:01 +1100, "Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote:

>Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
>
>After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old Shuttle
>Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and hit
>the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
>tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
>
>Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
>crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
>exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
>whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
>just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
>Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
>
>Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the Jet
>Ranger look.
>
>Any info would be great, thanks
>Dave
>

Bummer about the crash, not to worry, we all had dumb thumbs and
knocked of boom and rotors before here.
Always looks ugly when it hits the ground and bits bend but the
quicker you get the heli to bits, cleaned and fixed up the sooner you
forget the smash.

The upgrade parts are mostly look good stuff, some of it handles high
loads like link arms and swash plate, which you wont have to worry
about for some time.

Some bits to get upgrade like boom clamp and the like make for less
damage in minor crashes where the plastic standard fitings may split
open adding to the cost of the crash each time.
If there is some part that is in line with the rotors on the boom and
it is plastic itll likely go west if the boom hits it and that not a
bad one to upgrade to alloy to save you replacing in a boom strike.
That means you can get a stock crash kit and itll cover most incidents
with no extra plastic fittings to order.

Im in Vic and fly Ergo's and not sure who the dealer is in NSW for the
Shuttle.

Re post with the request in your subject line
"Parts for Shuttle in NSW ?" or something like that youll get a bite
faster there are a few in NSW in the group.

Cheers
Dave

[Heli Genius]

MPA

You don't fly very well do you?.

You hover about like a beginner. I've seen your videos.

You're bloody rubbish mate.


"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
news:rm1c6vg0l2p85vr9o1s8mltd07b6i0ouho@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:15:01 +1100, "Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
> >
> >After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old
Shuttle
> >Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and
hit
> >the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
> >tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
> >
> >Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
> >crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
> >exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
> >whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
> >just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
> >Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
> >
> >Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the
Jet
> >Ranger look.
> >
> >Any info would be great, thanks
> >Dave
> >
>
> Bummer about the crash, not to worry, we all had dumb thumbs and
> knocked of boom and rotors before here.
> Always looks ugly when it hits the ground and bits bend but the
> quicker you get the heli to bits, cleaned and fixed up the sooner you
> forget the smash.
>
> The upgrade parts are mostly look good stuff, some of it handles high
> loads like link arms and swash plate, which you wont have to worry
> about for some time.
>
> Some bits to get upgrade like boom clamp and the like make for less
> damage in minor crashes where the plastic standard fitings may split
> open adding to the cost of the crash each time.
> If there is some part that is in line with the rotors on the boom and
> it is plastic itll likely go west if the boom hits it and that not a
> bad one to upgrade to alloy to save you replacing in a boom strike.
> That means you can get a stock crash kit and itll cover most incidents
> with no extra plastic fittings to order.
>
> Im in Vic and fly Ergo's and not sure who the dealer is in NSW for the
> Shuttle.
>
> Re post with the request in your subject line
> "Parts for Shuttle in NSW ?" or something like that youll get a bite
> faster there are a few in NSW in the group.
>
> Cheers
> Dave

[MPA]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:35:36 -0000, "Heli Genius"
<I_know_all@notreal.com> wrote:

>MPA
>
>You don't fly very well do you?.

The only reason you need to ask me is you cant fly at all so your
point is irrelevant.

>
>You hover about like a beginner. I've seen your videos.
>
>You're bloody rubbish mate.

Pat claimed you dont blow his knob very well at outlawheli.
And ?

>
>
>"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
>news:rm1c6vg0l2p85vr9o1s8mltd07b6i0ouho@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:15:01 +1100, "Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
>> >
>> >After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old
>Shuttle
>> >Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and
>hit
>> >the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
>> >tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
>> >
>> >Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
>> >crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
>> >exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
>> >whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
>> >just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
>> >Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
>> >
>> >Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the
>Jet
>> >Ranger look.
>> >
>> >Any info would be great, thanks
>> >Dave
>> >
>>
>> Bummer about the crash, not to worry, we all had dumb thumbs and
>> knocked of boom and rotors before here.
>> Always looks ugly when it hits the ground and bits bend but the
>> quicker you get the heli to bits, cleaned and fixed up the sooner you
>> forget the smash.
>>
>> The upgrade parts are mostly look good stuff, some of it handles high
>> loads like link arms and swash plate, which you wont have to worry
>> about for some time.
>>
>> Some bits to get upgrade like boom clamp and the like make for less
>> damage in minor crashes where the plastic standard fitings may split
>> open adding to the cost of the crash each time.
>> If there is some part that is in line with the rotors on the boom and
>> it is plastic itll likely go west if the boom hits it and that not a
>> bad one to upgrade to alloy to save you replacing in a boom strike.
>> That means you can get a stock crash kit and itll cover most incidents
>> with no extra plastic fittings to order.
>>
>> Im in Vic and fly Ergo's and not sure who the dealer is in NSW for the
>> Shuttle.
>>
>> Re post with the request in your subject line
>> "Parts for Shuttle in NSW ?" or something like that youll get a bite
>> faster there are a few in NSW in the group.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>

[Heli Genius]

"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
news:jgjc6vcouikjng94he2rquf74o77qs5l6l@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:35:36 -0000, "Heli Genius"
> <I_know_all@notreal.com> wrote:
>
> >MPA
> >
> >You don't fly very well do you?.
>
> The only reason you need to ask me is you cant fly at all so your
> point is irrelevant.

I fly 3D you tit.

>
> >
> >You hover about like a beginner. I've seen your videos.
> >
> >You're bloody rubbish mate.
>
> Pat claimed you dont blow his knob very well at outlawheli.
> And ?

Erm - what the fuck are you on about?

>
> >
> >
> >"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
> >news:rm1c6vg0l2p85vr9o1s8mltd07b6i0ouho@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:15:01 +1100, "Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
> >> >
> >> >After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old
> >Shuttle
> >> >Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated
and
> >hit
> >> >the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find
the
> >> >tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
> >> >
> >> >Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there
are
> >> >crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
> >> >exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy,
like a
> >> >whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are
they
> >> >just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
> >> >Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
> >> >
> >> >Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the
> >Jet
> >> >Ranger look.
> >> >
> >> >Any info would be great, thanks
> >> >Dave
> >> >
> >>
> >> Bummer about the crash, not to worry, we all had dumb thumbs and
> >> knocked of boom and rotors before here.
> >> Always looks ugly when it hits the ground and bits bend but the
> >> quicker you get the heli to bits, cleaned and fixed up the sooner you
> >> forget the smash.
> >>
> >> The upgrade parts are mostly look good stuff, some of it handles high
> >> loads like link arms and swash plate, which you wont have to worry
> >> about for some time.
> >>
> >> Some bits to get upgrade like boom clamp and the like make for less
> >> damage in minor crashes where the plastic standard fitings may split
> >> open adding to the cost of the crash each time.
> >> If there is some part that is in line with the rotors on the boom and
> >> it is plastic itll likely go west if the boom hits it and that not a
> >> bad one to upgrade to alloy to save you replacing in a boom strike.
> >> That means you can get a stock crash kit and itll cover most incidents
> >> with no extra plastic fittings to order.
> >>
> >> Im in Vic and fly Ergo's and not sure who the dealer is in NSW for the
> >> Shuttle.
> >>
> >> Re post with the request in your subject line
> >> "Parts for Shuttle in NSW ?" or something like that youll get a bite
> >> faster there are a few in NSW in the group.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Dave
> >
>

[MPA]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:44:58 -0000, "Heli Genius"
<I_know_all@notreal.com> wrote:

>
>"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
>news:jgjc6vcouikjng94he2rquf74o77qs5l6l@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:35:36 -0000, "Heli Genius"
>> <I_know_all@notreal.com> wrote:
>>
>> >MPA
>> >
>> >You don't fly very well do you?.
>>
>> The only reason you need to ask me is you cant fly at all so your
>> point is irrelevant.
>
>I fly 3D you tit.

Yeah but you dont use a Heli.

>
>>
>> >
>> >You hover about like a beginner. I've seen your videos.
>> >
>> >You're bloody rubbish mate.
>>
>> Pat claimed you dont blow his knob very well at outlawheli.
>> And ?
>
>Erm - what the fuck are you on about?

You are an outlaw heli knob end are you not.

If not then what the phuck are you doing in the above thread you dick
head troll.

Cant win wiether way can you.

[Carl Farrington]

HG & MPA, come on you guys... its fun but a little OTT and someone is gonna
come out feeling insulted.

erm.

yeah I know that's the idea, but still. It aint good really. I mean, "can't
we all just get along?". Damn what is that phrase from. It's not southpark
is it?

[Glenn]

Hi Dave

You have a couple of choices.

Wingsnthings at Gladesville (9816 2699) are the Hirobo dealers in Australia.

CHECK the prices.

There is also Cyberheli, rotor.com.sg, ishiimokei.com etc.

kind regards
Glenn

"Dave" <dtjc@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<G4l9a.60735$jM5.155177@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>...
> Hi all, i've got a few questions if anyone could help.
>
> After two hours successfully hovering i just crashed my 2 month old Shuttle
> Plus for the first time, too much throttle and then over compensated and hit
> the ground pretty hard. Pretty bad boom strike, i couldn't even find the
> tail rotor, bent the boom to resemble a question mark!
>
> Anyway i've made a list of all the parts i need and i've seen there are
> crash kits available? are these any good or is it better just getting
> exactly what i need? Also i've seen upgrade parts made from alloy, like a
> whole tail rotor assembly, is there any advantage with these or are they
> just more expensive if i have to replace them again? I'm in NSW in
> Australia, can anyone recommend a good supplier?
>
> Also is there any other bodies that will fit on my shuttle? I like the Jet
> Ranger look.
>
> Any info would be great, thanks
> Dave

[Heli Genius]

You are right Carl.

It IS fun :-)



"Carl Farrington" <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote in message
news:b45vgs$nha$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> HG & MPA, come on you guys... its fun but a little OTT and someone is
gonna
> come out feeling insulted.
>
> erm.
>
> yeah I know that's the idea, but still. It aint good really. I mean,
"can't
> we all just get along?". Damn what is that phrase from. It's not southpark
> is it?
>
>

[MPA]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:00:29 -0000, "Carl Farrington"
<carl@000compsup000.net> wrote:

>HG & MPA, come on you guys... its fun but a little OTT and someone is gonna
>come out feeling insulted.

Carl you will note by Heli Idiots following post he his here to troll.

He attached himself to the thread that You, Beav and I where having a
bit of a joke in and abused me without provocation because he sees me
as a threat to his child like puerile posturing in RR
He does this because he is a despicable person who sees the only way
to improve his shallow character is to denigrate others with
provocation with the delusion it will make him appear less wretched
than he is.
Entirely likely he is a brow beaten husband who has to posture at rc
heli forums to escape the thumb on his forehead and abuse others to
redeem him from the low self esteem he feels at the hand os his
fishwife.
The peons he aligns with are here to defend their steaming pile of
crappulance know as outlawheli.net which serves him to interject the
thread and peddle his own sad cause.

He chose to further the cause into this thread over my advise to a new
entrant to the hobby just to exemplify he doesn't give a toss if new
entrants get assistance so long as he gets his agony off his chest.

You would well to do to steer clear of his kind Carl and not qualify
his divisiveness by accepting his ill behavior for any compromise lest
you simply encourage more of it from him.

Cheers

[Heli Genius]

You are wrong on all counts I'm afraid.

It's very very simple.

You are a tit.


"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
news:bbae6v4qgdp0bedgh2cfhe4f7tkihh72lj@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:00:29 -0000, "Carl Farrington"
> <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote:
>
> >HG & MPA, come on you guys... its fun but a little OTT and someone is
gonna
> >come out feeling insulted.
>
> Carl you will note by Heli Idiots following post he his here to troll.
>
> He attached himself to the thread that You, Beav and I where having a
> bit of a joke in and abused me without provocation because he sees me
> as a threat to his child like puerile posturing in RR
> He does this because he is a despicable person who sees the only way
> to improve his shallow character is to denigrate others with
> provocation with the delusion it will make him appear less wretched
> than he is.
> Entirely likely he is a brow beaten husband who has to posture at rc
> heli forums to escape the thumb on his forehead and abuse others to
> redeem him from the low self esteem he feels at the hand os his
> fishwife.
> The peons he aligns with are here to defend their steaming pile of
> crappulance know as outlawheli.net which serves him to interject the
> thread and peddle his own sad cause.
>
> He chose to further the cause into this thread over my advise to a new
> entrant to the hobby just to exemplify he doesn't give a toss if new
> entrants get assistance so long as he gets his agony off his chest.
>
> You would well to do to steer clear of his kind Carl and not qualify
> his divisiveness by accepting his ill behavior for any compromise lest
> you simply encourage more of it from him.
>
> Cheers

[MPA]

On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:51:59 -0000, "Heli Genius"
<I_know_all@notreal.com> wrote:

>You are wrong on all counts I'm afraid.
>
>It's very very simple.
>
>You are a tit.

What more could I ask for you return to make my point in case.

>
>
>"MPA" <mail_me@my_site.com> wrote in message
>news:bbae6v4qgdp0bedgh2cfhe4f7tkihh72lj@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:00:29 -0000, "Carl Farrington"
>> <carl@000compsup000.net> wrote:
>>
>> >HG & MPA, come on you guys... its fun but a little OTT and someone is
>gonna
>> >come out feeling insulted.
>>
>> Carl you will note by Heli Idiots following post he his here to troll.
>>
>> He attached himself to the thread that You, Beav and I where having a
>> bit of a joke in and abused me without provocation because he sees me
>> as a threat to his child like puerile posturing in RR
>> He does this because he is a despicable person who sees the only way
>> to improve his shallow character is to denigrate others with
>> provocation with the delusion it will make him appear less wretched
>> than he is.
>> Entirely likely he is a brow beaten husband who has to posture at rc
>> heli forums to escape the thumb on his forehead and abuse others to
>> redeem him from the low self esteem he feels at the hand os his
>> fishwife.
>> The peons he aligns with are here to defend their steaming pile of
>> crappulance know as outlawheli.net which serves him to interject the
>> thread and peddle his own sad cause.
>>
>> He chose to further the cause into this thread over my advise to a new
>> entrant to the hobby just to exemplify he doesn't give a toss if new
>> entrants get assistance so long as he gets his agony off his chest.
>>
>> You would well to do to steer clear of his kind Carl and not qualify
>> his divisiveness by accepting his ill behavior for any compromise lest
>> you simply encourage more of it from him.
>>
>> Cheers
>