Sailboat plans

[steelhead]

Wow. its dead out here!
Anyways- anyone have plans for simple r/c sailers that are about the size of a mini soling?

Just wondering-
Thanks, Dean

[steelhead]

the next question is, does anyone sail model sailboats? Anything?
At least anything homemade?
Dean

[Climate]

Well I guess I sail homemade boats. all of our kits are made in our 2200 Sq. Ft. shop, which is on the same property as our home.
Does that count as homemade?

www.climatemodels.com

[George Pfeifer]

Dean;
I'm not really into Sail Boats, but I hate to see a question go unanswered.

1. Try Taubman Plan Service: http://taubmansonline.com/cgi-bin/store/shop.cgi

2. Contact Terry Mackey: terry@mackeyszar.com
Terry is a member of the club that I belong to, and I know he has/had a mini soling last year. Terry may be able to put you in touch with something as he has a lot of contacts.

Sorry that I couldn't be of mor help.

George Pfeifer

[dgoebel]

Start with the AMYA US One Meter construction site
at http://www.amya.org/us1mcons.html and
take a look at the Marine Modeling International
Free downloadable Wee Nip plans at http://www.traplet.com/mmi/weenip.lasso

That should get you started. Most folks use the
WindPower http://windpower.rcsailtalk.com/ and
RC Sailing.net http://www.rcsailing.net/ Forums when
talking about R/C Sailing issues.

:D

[steelhead]

Thanks- So far thats exactly the types of links and plans I've been looking for!!!

If you guys know or find any others, please post them!

Dean

[dgoebel]

Steelhead,
Hopefully you've checked out the other more active R/C Sailing forums, very few folks even check here.
Windpower at http://windpower.rcsailtalk.com/
And the RC Sailing.net forums http://www.rcsailing.net/
are very active with lots of RC Sailors .

[steelhead]

Yes, I know there are other forums, but I am very active int he RCGROUPS forums, so its easy to be here.
And I do get some good info

Thanks guys

if you find any more, let me know

Dean

[steelhead]

Has anyone made thier own fiberglas hull mold for pulling glass hulls from?
Im trying to figure out how to make the symmetrical hull without a cnc machine

Dean

[dhrider]

For making sailplane fuse molds I use a contour gage from home depot/lowes to make thigs even on hte plug.

Chris K

[steelhead]

Got any pics of the hulls you've pulled from your own molds?

Im still playing with sailboats, but havent made a plug yet

Dean

[steelhead]

Wow. I started this thread when there were like 3 other users :)

Anyways-

UNDEADING THIS THREAD!

Dean

[losiXXXman]

I tried linking to the windpower forum with no luck. Anyone know if it still exists, is having problems, or is it just me?

[Al Stein]

Hi Dean...

This is a 36/600 Soling hull I built for my wife earlier this year.

It's just under 36" overall (as you may have already figured out) and was built from a plan that was published in RC Modeler in the early 1970's. Plans are cheap, building is easy, and the boat sails well... for its size. (We did have one out with a group of EC12s last summer and it's definitely not in their class... but it was still good enough to make it worth building a few more hulls.)

First picture is the pre-fiberglass. You can see that there's a little fill on it, but little enough that the balsa shows through most places. The boat comes out that way automatically -- no special, highly tuned skills required if you follow the directions.
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/5913/soling12eo.th.jpg (http://img158.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img158&image=soling12eo.jpg)

The next pic is after glassing, during the primer/sand-down phase. I was very rusty at glassing work and had a wave form in my fiberglass. A little work with an 11" sanding bar brought the boat right back to its lines. Glazing putty took care of any minor surface flaws. This picture is nice because you can also see the balsa construction artifacts inside the hull.
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/3256/soling28ca.th.jpg (http://img158.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img158&image=soling28ca.jpg)

This picture is after the sanding and glazing, not yet painted and polished. I planned to do this hull as a one-off, but after seeing how well it turned out I thought real hard about making a mold. I haven't yet installed the radio, etc., so the hull has been in this condition for a few months now. It's amazing what it feels like to run the palm of your hand down its length.
http://img158.exs.cx/img158/1867/soling33gh.th.jpg (http://img158.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img158&image=soling33gh.jpg)

(Thanks to ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://www.imageshack.us))

[martin richards]

Well I never. Exactly the same as our kitchen furniture and worktops:eek:

[Al Stein]

The kitchen was the reason I wanted to buy this house... but then once I started making bread on those counter tops I discovered that it's very hard to keep the lines between the tiles clean.

Still, it is a good work surface for most things and, as you can see, the wife even let me work on boat hulls there!

Feliz Navidad!
AL

[steelhead]

Al- Those pictures were great! thanks!

I really like the 36/600 SOLING. Works great for most of the places I sail, and it is transportable in any car.

What part number are the plans? I have not seen them through RCM before-

Is it strip balsa or sheet?

Thanks again for a great post!

Dean

[Al Stein]

One of the reasons that RCM is usually my favorite magazine is that they continue to offer almost all the plans they ever printed.

The Soling was RCM plan #534. It's 1/8" balsa strips layed up over a set of "shadows" (solid bulkhead sections) and it goes together pretty quick and easy. It's the same process they have detailed in the One-Meter builder's guide you can download from the AMYA site.

You could easily have missed the Soling in RCM -- it was published in 1973, so if you weren't interested in sailboats or an RCM reader at that time you could have missed it -- or if you forget where you saw a plan thirty years ago or, like a lot of INTERNET users, if you weren't around 30 years ago...

http://img159.exs.cx/img159/1866/ec12106annapolis2a9bc.gif
Back to 1973, at that time, I was in school and my dad, a long-time airplane builder, had recently built this East Coast 12-Meter boat (which just became mine this year over Thanksgiving). I was dying to have a boat of my own, so I hand-enlarged the hull former shapes for the Soling and built myself a sailboat.

Anyway, RCM sells plans by phone or by mail or out of their web site (http://www.rcmmagazine.com/e/env/0001Mf8aV7PcktAXRo8f161/store/rcm-store.html?link=/store/store-plans.html)... (Under the "alphabetical" listing area, it's sorted as "36/600 Soling", not in the "S" part... makes it a little harder to find unless you just search the page for "Soling."

[steelhead]

Thanks- Im going to look up those plans. I think RC sailboats is going to come to surface in the next few years. Even the scientific technological hydrofoils are pretty, but theres something about a quite sail on a semi still pond in late afternoon with a wooden hulled ship that you produced.

Thanks for the plans number. Im adding it to my list of things to build this year.

Dean

[steelhead]

It's been about 2 years since I last visited this thread, and that wa back when there were only 3 people posting in SAILBOATS.

I did find plans for a 1 meter blue pea? Or sweet pea? I cant remember- I will try and find the link- very easy to build 1 meter hull sailboat.

Any other plans found out there?

Dean

[Dick L.]

PeaPod ! ;)

AMYA - write the class secretary for US 1 Meter Class. They have a lot of plans at very reasonable prices - most under $10.00 !

[slotracer577]

Wow. its dead out here!
Anyways- anyone have plans for simple r/c sailers that are about the size of a mini soling?

Just wondering-
Thanks, Dean

I posted plans for the star 45 on the star 45 yahoo group. there are full size PDF's of the sections and a reduced plan to get spacing and rig info.

John

[Dick L.]

Here is one for you - available free on the internet - and original size is a F-48/Mini40 of 48 inches overall length and beam. I have seen photos of these built to a 1 Meter (39 inch) size and one that was strip built in balsa at about 28 inches in overall length.

[validol]

HI Guys,
I heve problems when i want to open the links with plans. I live in Bulgaria, is this the problem ?

[BrittB]

Here's the Soling plans. http://www.rcmmagazine.com/store/store-plans-catalog-tem.html?item=plans:PL-534&sid=0001BTgKGuKdfhgpm05p7U7

[steelhead]

Last winter I made some Bulkheads for a strip built one meter, and now that the shop is cleaned up, I cant find them :( Guess I'll have to make new ones.

Dean

[slotracer577]

I have a couple of sets of frames for different hard chine IOM's if anyone wants them. I was working on building a couple to find a good one, but have started building star 45's instead.

John

[Norman2]

Added to Norman2 Blog R/C Plans for Alinghi AC R/C Sailboat

[breakwater]

Sick

[bdgar12]

Hi Dean,

Yes, I am just getting into r/c sailboats. I have built a
Footy which you can google Footy Sailboat plans and
get free copy. The guy that I got them from lives in
New Zealand, I think. Anyway, it builds quick.

I also have taken the r/c Soling boat and designed my
own version. Haven't finished it yet. I did get an article
about a 3' Peapod sailboat which I put in a safe place and
I can't find right now. The neat thing about it was that the
hull sides are made from a doorskin panel that I bought at
Home Depot.

I have also just joined the AMYA. It is only $25 for an adult
annual membership and you get a monthly magazine about
r/c boats.

Hope this helps.

Barry

[slotracer577]

Not to disappoint, the AMYA magazine is quarterly, not monthly. Still a cheap membership and it allows clubs to get reasonable price pond insurance.

John

[neccar]

Wow. its dead out here!
Anyways- anyone have plans for simple r/c sailers that are about the size of a mini soling?

Just wondering-
Thanks, Dean
hi again my friend ı wrote you long time ago about rc sal plans.how can ı find ''A'' class sail boat plans can you help me? regards

[Ironman929]

Well I guess I sail homemade boats. all of our kits are made in our 2200 Sq. Ft. shop, which is on the same property as our home.
Does that count as homemade?

www.climatemodels.com
I just love twits that say they have all this crap and all you find is a stupid search engine site. What a looser. :censored:

[jonoknight]

Before you start to mouth off:

Please check the date of the original posting - Mar 17, 2003 - only 5 years ago...

Looks like they might have gone out of business.

[Dick L.]

They produced some nice looking and sailing boats when it was still owned by Peter Richards. After he sold out, it was downhill all the way. :( In fact, when it was still Climate boats, they were the only producer of production IOM boats.

As noted by Mr. JoJoKnight, they have since gone out of business - or have severly reduced any/all advertising. Just an additional FYI - As Climate Boat Works, they were one of the first companies to introduce laser cut station templates and sail panels as well for home builders.

[martin richards]

I seem to remember that Carr Sails also sold some of the pre-welasercut Climate boats. It's always a shame to see a firm run be enthusisats of any hobby disappear. Climate also made some neat fast electric hydros.
Btw, Dick, I think Robbe are still sellling their IOM legal Windstar.

[Dick L.]

You may well be correct. I haven't seen it advertised - but over here Robbe isn't as big a name in model sailboats.

I was all set to buy one of their (Climate) HALO boats. Loved the look so much better than the MicroMagic - and even had a quote set and ready to go to have the hull "plastic-chrome plated" so hull sides would be reflective. Yellow under-body and gray deck/cabin. Alas - by time I was ready to order, they were gone. Bummer!

EDIT - ADDED PHOTO: Woulda, coulda, shoulda been a neat boat! Too bad.

[graham_mca]

The wooden boat kits such as the Mirror dinghy and the power boats sold by Climate Models were made by Osbourn Kits. They are still available at http://www.osbornmodelkits.com/RC_model_boat_kits.htm

I am sure that the Halo was picked up by one of the US sailmakers.. I forget which.

Graham

[Dick L.]

Rod Carr supplied sails (as I recall) for both Halo and for their IOM boats. Will have to ask himif he has a line on owner of tooling. I did write totwo different email addreses - only one bounced back as "not deliverable". Will see if I get a response to the other.

[graham_mca]

Try here Dick...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HALO30owners/

Graham

[Al Stein]

Another thought on the Halo30...

She is really sharp looking (done in the right color scheme) and she's supposed to be fast, but her shape is not unfamiliar and her size is way in-between the bigger AMYA classes... significantly different than the USOM, IOM, or even the 36/600.

Maybe a similar design done to a fairly close LOA (like 65cm) would make a good approximation. I would think that something like the rg65 Blue Splash or Q-Roo would look really similar if they were fitted with similar decks. They both have fairly fine entries, carry their max beam fairly far aft, and don't taper too much at the stern.

I can certainly see, though, why the Halo in the picture grabbed you: that one sure is a nice looking boat.

[Dick L.]

Yes Al -

I have a set of templates already cut for the next RG-65 - once I finish the JIF65 fleet in current build ! :D

Look at the HALO photo and imagine the hull sides from waterline up to deck gunwales being a reflective "chrome" finish. Then bright yellow hull below the waterline, and the matte silver/gray deck as shown. Add a set of black sails with yellow graphics and ............... ;)

[Al Stein]

That should be a real eye-catcher!

I've just taken a side-step into the world of J-Boats but even the preparation for something like that is a big project, so something like the Halo in rg65 may be the next thing to physically emerge here, too, while I develop construction plans for the big guy. (As soon as the equipment board from my EC12 is done being refurbished -- which should be within another day or two.)

That Halo30 picture definitely piqued my interest!