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capt. spauldin
Dec 12, 2008, 06:19 PM
As the economy slips and slides, it may be some consolation to know that the RC hobby is much more affordable now than it used to be. A glance at the past shows the extent to which that’s true.

I recently came across the March 1961 issue of Popular Science magazine. In it was an installment of a multi-part article describing the construction of a RC model of NS Savannah. The piece provides a fascinating look at an earlier era of RC boat-building. Among the things in it that caught my eye was a table titled “Cost of Typical R/C Outfits.” The table showed prices for components for single-channel, four-channel, and 10-channel systems; the entry for a “four-channel transmitter and receiver” indicated that such a system would cost $120.

What if the author of the 1961 article wanted to buy a comparable “R/C outfit” today? It’s very difficult to make an apples-to-apples comparison because technology has improved greatly over the years, giving buyers “more for their money.” However, it is possible to make a rough comparison. For example, four-channel Futaba radio sets – transmitter, receiver, and servo(s) – currently are available from Tower Hobbies for prices ranging from $85 to $150. The mid-point of that range is $117.50. That’s right in line with the price $120 price of 47 years ago, in absolute terms.

What about inflation, I hear someone ask. A little research unearthed the fact that the Consumer Price Index rose by about 6.9 times from 1961 to 2007 (using full-year data). That means that if prices for RC equipment had kept pace with inflation, it would have taken roughly $830 in 2007 to buy the system that $120 bought in 1961. How much was $120 in 2007 dollars worth in 1961? A little more than $17.30. (Relative value calculations were made at www.measuringworth.com.)

Prices for RC equipment clearly have fallen by quite a bit during the past few decades in absolute and inflation-adjusted terms. Nonetheless, the then-versus-now comparison is even more interesting when it comes to “affordability.” It’s safe to say that RC was a very expensive hobby half-a-century ago if a person bought rather than built his own equipment. In 1961, a four-channel system was a substantial purchase; $120 accounted for just over 2% of the median household income of $5,735 that year. In 2006 (the latest year for which I could find data), $120 was barely a blip at 0.2% of median income of $58,407.

Many things have gotten much more affordable over the years. Glad to see that RC equipment is among them.

Cheers,
Capt. Spaulding

more coffee
Dec 12, 2008, 06:52 PM
the more things change the more they stay the same ..in relation to time and space ...its all relative ...


i used one of those calculators ...say a fully loaded auto cost $5000 in 1961...

$34649.40 in the year 2007 has the same "purchase power" as $5000 in the year 1961.

but it is nice to see some things do stay the same ...

Kmot
Dec 12, 2008, 06:59 PM
$120 in 1961 is equal to $869 in 2008.

Kmot
Dec 12, 2008, 07:04 PM
In 1959, I started earning an "allowance" from my dad. I got $0.25 a week. That equals $1.86 a week in 2008. What a cheap ******* he was! :p

CG Bob
Dec 12, 2008, 09:20 PM
Let's look at the flip side of the coin. Back in 1961 most of the rc models were scratch built or (box of wood) kit built models, very few were complete packages with the motor and radio included in the box. You could even buy a kit to build your rc system. Now, most of the rc items are RTR, ARF, Plug-n-Play, etc. Today we have a lot more choices in radio frequencies; in the USA there are 6 channels in 27 MHz for any model; 50 aircarft only channels in 72 MHz; 30 surface (boat, car, sub) channels in 75 MHz; and 2.4 GHz.

CGAux26
Dec 12, 2008, 09:26 PM
And back in the early '60's, all the radio gear was many times larger and heavier than today's. I remember a friend who flew a single channel (rudder) glow engine airplane that required a 6 volt dry cell battery for the receiver and servo. A couple pounds of just battery weight.
Yes, we have come a long way to today's radio gear.
Dave

Greg W
Dec 12, 2008, 10:34 PM
not to stray of topic ,but what issues have the other parts to the article? I would like to build the Savannah someday and would like to read the article. Greg

craig_c
Dec 12, 2008, 11:35 PM
Here ya go....

The Savannah series articles in Popular Science Magazine....

Dec. 1960: Part 1: Ship Model of the Year: NS Savannah (http://books.google.com/books?id=8iUDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA202&dq=popular+science+1960+savannah&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=MAGAZINES&hl=En#PPA202,M1)
Jan. 1961: Part 2: Shaping the Superstructure (http://books.google.com/books?id=UyYDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA220&dq=popular+science+1961+savannah&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=MAGAZINES&hl=En#PPA150,M1)
Feb. 1961: Part 3: A Steam Turbine for the NS Savannah (http://books.google.com/books?id=ZyYDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA142&dq=popular+science+1961+savannah&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=MAGAZINES&hl=En#PPA142,M1)
Mar. 1961: Part 4: Choosing and Installing the Radio Controls and Motor (http://books.google.com/books?id=QSYDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA252&dq=popular+science+march+1961+savannah&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=MAGAZINES&hl=En#PPA185,M1)

Greg W
Dec 13, 2008, 11:41 AM
Thanks Craig, very interesting stuff. Greg

AndyKunz
Dec 13, 2008, 01:21 PM
In 1959, I started earning an "allowance" from my dad. I got $0.25 a week. That equals $1.86 a week in 2008. What a cheap ******* he was! :p

Tom,

Maybe he knew more about you than you think ...

:D

Andy

Reckless
Dec 13, 2008, 02:00 PM
in 1993 I got out of RC boating cause it was getting to the point that it was cheaper to build a highschool drag car. back then the 2chan radio I bought was more expensive then the 6 chan 2.4ghz I bought just before last summer.

HoaRC
Dec 13, 2008, 03:19 PM
as our wages and benefits slip and slide who can afford to spend money and time on rc?

CG Bob
Dec 13, 2008, 07:03 PM
as our wages and benefits slip and slide who can afford to spend money and time on rc?
I can, but my current job depends on it. :D I work part time at the LHS since I retired from the USCG.

HoaRC
Dec 13, 2008, 07:09 PM
I can, but my current job depends on it. :D I work part time at the LHS since I retired from the USCG.

That hobby shop is luck to have you. I hope it specializes in boats.

craig_c
Dec 13, 2008, 09:34 PM
That hobby shop is lucky to have you...Seconded

CG Bob
Dec 14, 2008, 10:21 AM
Unfortunately, the two biggest selling groups in the store are trains and rc cars. Eleven people work in the store. The owner (& his wife) and one employee are the train guys. Five employees are rc car guys; one employee is the game (D&D, Warhammer 40K, etc) expert. I'm the boat and sub expert and I handle most of the airplane questions. Two of the car guys and I handle all of the helo questions. They just hired a new guy this week, and I don't know his area of expertise. Since I have more rc experience than 4 of the car guys, I usually get most of the questions.

The biggest group of rc models we repair is cars, followed by the electric helos. We rarely get boats or airplanes in for repairs - maybe because the boat and airplane guys can read plans and instructions. ;) The boat and plane guys seem to have much better knowledge of their models and their systems.

Shaun Hendricks
Dec 15, 2008, 12:28 AM
Easy logic to that...

Boat, you screw up- you go swimming. Plane, you screw up, you are lucky to recover 10% of your investment in many cases.

Helicopters are nothing but parts factories and you don't usually do heli's unless you have the easy-ish to fly counter rotating toy kind, or lots of bucks to go into the full manuver sorts.

Cars can be 'run' by anyone. A wealthy dad can go give his kid a car capable of 60 mph out of the box and when he hits a curb with it, most of the car survives the wreck and it's about $40-$80 in parts to get it running again. You can also start slow and work up.

So, cars and heli's are popular but only because they are generally less expensive to fix when they break and relatively easy to fix to begin with. Boats and Planes can teach nasty lessons really fast with total loss of the vehicle. ;)

AndyKunz
Dec 15, 2008, 08:59 AM
You missed on the aircraft side, Shaun. An airplane is about $35 of wood (less if you're into foam) and covering. The electronics are well over $100, the motor and battery just as much. So even with a bad crash, you're only out $35. And if you know what CA is, even less.

Andy

Kcal
Dec 16, 2008, 02:14 PM
How come I don’t feel wealthier then?.................