New OUTRAGE 550 is here!

[Philpops]

Just rocked up at the door.

Im personaly getting a bit bored with the align helis, and having the opportunity to access a pre-release kit, i ordered one of these to have a play with. Charley has designed some good stuff over the years and if its anything like the G5 it should be great!

ill pop some pics up as i start building it, still need to purchase:

550mm blades
scorpion 4020-1390kv
scorpion 120amp esc
6s 5000mah Outrage packs
servos? maybe some JRs of some sort
jr gyro and the 8900 servo
6100 rx
bec of some sort

should go good :)

couple pics from the outrage site

http://www.outragerc.com/upload_images/File/G550kit/frameG10.jpg
http://www.outragerc.com/pictures/KR5503546662.jpg
http://www.outragerc.com/pictures/box550a.jpg

Ive started the build. Looking quite nice. Found a few small issues that I wont even mention as the kits are being fixed now before they are officialy released. Packaging is nice, multiple boxes inside the main box.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1691.JPG
Pre painted fiberglass is in one of the boxes
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1695.JPG
head parts
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1701.JPG
G10 pieces
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1702.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1705.JPG
nice low profile swash, with future 140ccpm availible.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1712.JPG
Finished the washout assy, note the dual bearings in the radius arms
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1715.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1719.JPG
Flybar cage finished, has 2 sensitivitiy positions
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1722.JPG
completed head. Plenty thick 8mm feathering shaft looks strong.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1725.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1726.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1728.JPG
Tail parts ready to put together. One of the better tails out there, with multiple stages of the tail pitch slider
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1729.JPG
tail rotor looks good, silky smooth.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1731.JPG
completed tail assembly, also nice and smooth
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1734.JPG
Bottom view of the base plate, feels quite rigid with multiple bracing cross members to reinforce.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1736.JPG
top view, this is where the battery will sit
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1738.JPG

3 metal main shaft bearing blocks, and the CNC motor mount. Note the installed bearing into the motor mount for extra support.
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1745.JPG
Belt guide pullies and assembly
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1747.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1748.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1749.JPG
elevator lever ready to install into the frame
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1752.JPG
to adjust the gear meshing the whole motor mount and motor moves
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1755.JPG
nearly finished the main frame. Interesting shape
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1758.JPG

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1759.JPG
Tail pulley parts and auto hub
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1763.JPG
CNC main gear 0.7 mod, plenty pinion choices out there
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1766.JPG
completed main gear assembly

http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1768.JPG
Landing gear parts
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1773.JPG

the tail servo is mounted on the boom with these parts
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1782.JPG
horizontal fin mount
http://www.rotortips.net/images/104CANON/IMG_1783.JPG

[Gadget01]

Looks VERY nice! Thanks for the detailed pics. I like all the ball-raced goodness and adjustability in the design. Please post updates as they become available.

[heli_addict]

I'm quite impressed with the apparent high-quality parts and the overall design. Thanks for posting a build thread! I'll be very interested to get your impressions on its flight characteristics.

[SMITHB]

Nice pics man!!

Bsmith

[Dogwoodtheone]

looks like it's going to be nice heli, :) very interesting design, but the canopy is rather ugly

[Ping]

but the canopy is rather ugly

Which is a shame I love the sleek aggressive canopy on the G5...

[Tom Viper]

Its a very uggly frame...but I will get one!

[Big Fil]

The canopy is ugly IMO and the lightning bolts seem like a bite off the Align canopies. Hopefully there will be aftermarket canopies to fill in. Other than that the kit looks very nice and especially with the parts cost I think this heli will be a winner.

One other thing I don't care for from a design aspect, and this goes for any manufacturer, is the overuse of the company logo on parts. I mean just looking at the top of the head you can see 4 spots where it says Outrage. How many times do we need to see the name in a 3 inch square?

[OICU812]

Overall looks to be pretty darn decent. :)

[Gadget01]

One other thing I don't care for from a design aspect, and this goes for any manufacturer, is the overuse of the company logo on parts. I mean just looking at the top of the head you can see 4 spots where it says Outrage. How many times do we need to see the name in a 3 inch square? I noticed this too. It's "outrage"ous!

[JustPlaneChris]

At least it's not blue. And you can't see those logos when it's spinning. :rolleyes:

-Chris

[gravydrive]

Will A123s fit in the frame?

[Ghia]

nice!
i too like the G5 lid tho!

[jamesppp]

I like the Raptoresque method of rear motor mounting and pinion adjusting. It is so much easier to slide the whole mounting pad and motor and hold it steady while tightening. I also the battery tray which is smooth on top and not ribbed. Velcro has a good surface to stick to. I like the whole thing, canopy and all. I did ask when spare canopies will be available so I can paint one up and was told about 2 weeks after the release of the kit.

I have the carbon fiber pro model ordered but I think the silver glass kit might look better with the dark aluminum finish.

I cant wait to start the build. All of the head pieces have multiple holes so that it can be set up mild or wild. The manual is excellent and highly detailed. All hardware pieces are bagged seperately according to the build sequence and each piece has a nice drawing which makes it easy to identify.

I wish my kit would "rock up at the door" :D I have all of the components waiting for it.

The canopy fits a third standoff that is located on the bottom center to hold it on tightly.

[JustPlaneChris]

Will A123s fit in the frame?That has been a topic of discussion. It looks like a 10S "brick" just might fit, based on the dimensions given. For sure they would fit if arranged "shotgun" style, but that's a PITA.

-Chris

[Greybird]

I like the Raptorseque method of rear motor mounting and pinion adjusting. It is so much easier to slide the whole mounting pad and motor and hold it steady while tightening. I also the battery tray which is smooth on top and not ribbed. Velcro has a good surface to stick to. I like the whole thing, canopy and all. I did ask when spare canopies will be available so I can paint one up and was told about 2 weeks after the release of the kit.

I have the carbon fiber pro model ordered but I think the silver glass kit might look better with the dark aluminum finish.

I cant wait to start the build. All of the head pieces have multiple holes so that it can be set up mild or wild. The manual is excellent and highly detailed. All hardware pieces are bagged seperatley according to the build sequence and each piece has a nice drawing which makes it easy to identify.

I wish my kit would "rock up at the door" :D I have all of the components waiting for it.

The canopy fits a third standoff that is located on the bottom center to hold it on tightly.
Hmm... You might have a problem. How many heli's does that make now? :rolleyes:

[mjdee14]

That heli looks really well thought out and designed....I really like the innovative motor mount...the extra bearing is outstanding....it will certainly help save the motors lower bearing.....

Can't wait to see a flight report and a price....

[jamesppp]

That heli looks really well thought out and designed....I really like the innovative motor mount...the extra bearing is outstanding....it will certainly help save the motors lower bearing.....

Can't wait to see a flight report and a price....



Kit Prices:

Outrage 550 CF Pro Kit: Retail $499.
Outrage 550 Silver Pro Kit: Retail $460.
Outrage 550 G10 Pro Kit: Retail $430.
These Pro kits feature anodized CNC head, tail, bell cranks, and a
delrin main gear.



Coming in the near future
Outrage 550 CF LXE Kit: Retail $399.
Outrage 550 Silver LXE Kit: Retail $370.
Outrage 550 G10 LXE Kit: Retail $349.
These LXE Kits features an 80% CNC Head with plastic mixer arms,
plastic tail system, plastic bell cranks, and a injection mould main


Spare Parts pricing is also good:

http://outragerc.com/home/type.php?module=product&iCat=48

Several good flight videos available on the Outrage site.

[rotoraddict]

Interesting .... looks like it may be a bit on the heavy side. When you are finished with the build, it would be interesting to see what the all up weight is (without battery pack or radio gear) to compare to my favorite Swift 550SE.

[rcdaddy]

what is your swift 550SE RTF weight?

[rotoraddict]

Without battery pack - 6lbs 2oz with a T.P. 6S/5000 mah pack.

[Philpops]

just an update, we had a buildathon on sat night where we got the heli finished. Later we hopped into the bang bus and headed to a carpark at 1am to give it its maiden. Only had a charged 5s pack but still managed to do a few flips etc.

From the flights I had with it, the heli feels fantastic, cyclic is very fast with the default head settings.

few pics below

cheers

[jamesppp]

How did it feel on 5S?What size pinion ?

Im going to fly mine on 5S packs w/ the 4020-1390 for a while as I have several of them and Im still just flying circuits and 8's etc. I have 11t, 12 and 13t pinions coming as I have no .7mod in the box.

Good job on the build, pics and flying.

Jimmy

[rkkennard]

Who sells the Outrage and parts ?

RKK

[jamesppp]

Who sells the Outrage and parts ?

RKK


The 550 was supposed to have shipped out to dealers yesterday. A few dealers in the US that are going to carry them are:

Esprit Models

RRE Models

Heli Direct

Hopefully the retailers will have units in stock and ready to fill orders by this coming Monday.

[Philpops]

I have the 4020 1390 motor installed, currently only with an 11 tooth pinion. I will try a 13t next to get the headspeed up to about 2400 on 5s and see how hot things get 3ding. If your planing on general flying with maybe a few flips, 5s will work. But really this machine is designed for 6s 5000mah, someone who has a trex 600 can transplant everything minus motor into the 550, and have a better flying heli which is also easier on the packs.

there is a dealer page
http://www.outragerc.com/home/distribu.php

[SMITHB]

Great Thread Philpops

[RCnGuy]

Philpops,

I don't know if that's "your" Logo 500 in the comparison picture but I'm looking for a direct comparison of the two in their flight characteristics.

I was really leaning towards a Logo 500 as a replacement for my E550 Raptor this spring. Then, when I read about and saw the Outrage 550 I thought this could give the Logo a run for the money.

Please tell me what you can assuming you've flown both.

THANK YOU!!!

Dave


just an update, we had a buildathon on sat night where we got the heli finished. Later we hopped into the bang bus and headed to a carpark at 1am to give it its maiden. Only had a charged 5s pack but still managed to do a few flips etc.

From the flights I had with it, the heli feels fantastic, cyclic is very fast with the default head settings.

few pics below

cheers

[OICU812]

Looking to know the RTF weight of the Outrage 550, anyone know?

[Philpops]

no, thats a mates logo 500. I guess with the outrage 550 you can set the head up how you want it to fly, with there being a number of options availible.

when I get home tonight I will weigh the heli without the batt, and you can add the weight of a pack of your choice.

[Greybird]

just an update, we had a buildathon on sat night where we got the heli finished. Later we hopped into the bang bus and headed to a carpark at 1am to give it its maiden. Only had a charged 5s pack but still managed to do a few flips etc.

From the flights I had with it, the heli feels fantastic, cyclic is very fast with the default head settings.

few pics below

cheers
Philpops, Is that you checking balance? Just curious.

[Philpops]

Philpops, Is that you checking balance? Just curious.
haha..... NO! lol :eek:

thats MR Alex

I have some weights, just recap the setup thats in there atm

Outrage 550 G10 kit
Full metal head and tail
Scorpion 4020 1390 motor
Scorpion 120amp 6s speedy with bec
6100 2.4 rx
770T gyro+servo
3x ino lab metal gear digitals
550mm CF blades
92mm CF tail blades

All this weighs 2150g
Canopy 100g

and the 5s 5000mah pack thats in there atm is 625g

Total 2875g Ready to fly

Ideally using a 6s 5000mah pack it will be 3000g =3kg on the dot

cheers

[jamesppp]

Not bad. 4.95 lbs with the lid on, 750g for the big 6S, 5000mah adds another 1.65lbs.

All in weight = 6.6lbs

3.0ki's even

[arclite5]

To compare, a Logo 500 fully RTF with TP 6S 5000mAh pack is 6lb 6.5oz, or 2905g (2.9kg)

[Tom Viper]

To compare, a Hurricane 550 fully RTF with 6S 5300mA pack, 2392g :D

[battlercon]

This is all Metal head and Tail "Flybarred version" I hope to loose 60-80 grams (3oz.) when switch over to Flybarless :)

[Philpops]

To compare, a Hurricane 550 fully RTF with 6S 5300mA pack, 2392g :D
still makes a good paper weight :D

[Tom Viper]

I will for sure get one to try, weight is not everything.
I heard they will be here (EU) middle of december.

[Big Fil]

still makes a good paper weight :D

LoL!

Of course with any of these weight comparisons I think components will make the results varied. Just for a reference here is my Logo setup with the AUW.

Logo 500 3D VBar
Hacker A40 8L w/13T
AR7000
8717
8900
Jazz 80 w/heatsink
Hercules 5A BEC
JR landing gear
RT 560s
Radix 92mm tails
Outrage 6S 5000

6.25lbs

[OICU812]

Charley you did a good job man.

[battlercon]

Charley you did a good job man.


Thanks Shawn!

If anyone plans to attend the Orlando event stop by I should have my prototype flybarless head there plus a few other things :D

[Ping]

Thanks Shawn!

If anyone plans to attend the Orlando event stop by I should have my prototype flybarless head there plus a few other things :D

Bring a camera!

[misskimo]

Charley, yeh! looks like a good one , cant wait to try one out , but winter here wont be over for a WHILE! I sure wish I could make it to Fla. but I cant , my Joker 3DD 90 will be there though. Carlos "eco8gator"will have mine and his new one he just got down there.

Tony

[rcdaddy]

Logo 500 is fully plastic and they are 100g lighter than the fully CNC outrage 550. if the outrage 550 is equipped with plastic tail as in kit LXE, they may be lighter than the Logo 500.

[battlercon]

Don't forget weights are being compared from a flybared heli to a flybarless

[Philpops]

So looks like the Logo 500 and Outrage 500 heli weights are on par, however the metal version outrage 500 is much stronger especialy the frames.

[RCnGuy]

Thanks for the weights guys. My E550 Raptor with 6s 5300mAh packs comes in at 3,587 grams.

I now see the Outrage 550 and the Logo 500 are both MUCH lighter than my Raptor.

Now the question is how do they compare in flight?

Has anyone flown the Outrage 550 who has also flown the Logo 500?


Thanks!

Dave

[JustPlaneChris]

Has anyone flown the Outrage 550 who has also flown the Logo 500?Dave, Bobby Smith from RREModels.com has flown both I believe. You might want to drop him a note and see what he thinks.

-Chris

[RCnGuy]

Thanks Chris. RREModels.com doesn't appear to be valid however. I can try through a different forum but do you have a better URL?

Dave

Dave, Bobby Smith from RREModels.com has flown both I believe. You might want to drop him a note and see what he thinks.

-Chris

[RMG2]

Thanks Chris. RREModels.com doesn't appear to be valid however. I can try through a different forum but do you have a better URL?

Dave

Chris gave the correct address, I visit the site frequently. I just tried it and it appears the server is down, or some other problem???

[RCnGuy]

Fillmoe Slim,

How would you compare the flight characteristics of the Outrage 550 to your Logo 500?

I'm trying to decide on my 2009 heli.

THANKS!!!!

Dave


LoL!

Of course with any of these weight comparisons I think components will make the results varied. Just for a reference here is my Logo setup with the AUW.

Logo 500 3D VBar
Hacker A40 8L w/13T
AR7000
8717
8900
Jazz 80 w/heatsink
Hercules 5A BEC
JR landing gear
RT 560s
Radix 92mm tails
Outrage 6S 5000

6.25lbs

[RCnGuy]

Thanks RMG. I'll try checking that site again tomorrow.

Dave

Chris gave the correct address, I visit the site frequently. I just tried it and it appears the server is down, or some other problem???

[JustPlaneChris]

Thanks RMG. I'll try checking that site again tomorrow.

DaveYou can also PM him here as username SMITHB.

-Chris

[jamesppp]

http://www.rremodels.com/

The site is up now. I placed a little order last night. Swash leveling tool for the OR 550 and a part or 2

[RCnGuy]

Thanks guys. I just got through on the website.

[Big Fil]

RCnGuy, unfortunately I don't own an Outrage 550 so I cannot give you any flight report. I do think it is a good looking heli and I hope someone in my circles gets one soon so I can fly it. I think the Outrage will bring more people into the big electrics due to it's good pricing unlike the Mikado. That said I already own a Logo and i'm not in the market for another machine in this size at the moment for myself.