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785boats
Nov 18, 2008, 08:17 PM
I stumbled across this "Museum Display Model" of the Typhoon on Ebay.
As the engine bay hatch covers were able to open I thought to myself 'You could easily convert that to R/C.' I knew that I would have to seal the inside of the hull with epoxy or something to stop the warping & splitting of the timber. And installing a rudder post & control arm was obviously going to be a problem as there was no access.
Well I was the only bidder & picked it up for AU$250.00. Plus AU$55.00 postage.

I knocked out the engine bay floor & sides & the rear cockpit floor & back after removing the seat.
To my surprise the inside of the hull had already been coated with an epoxy type resin all the way up to the deck.
The deck planking is solid timber of 1/4" thickness as are the hatch covers. I would be surprised if they warped or split.
The way they had removed parts of the bulkheads & keel to fit the cockpits & engine bay was a bit brutal to say the least. Looks like they had been twisted & split out with a pair of pliers. I thought that I was the only one that did that sort of thing.
I drilled in a prop shaft mounted a 7.2v 700 size motor to an aluminium mount made out of some 3mm angle & screwed that to some pine wedges shaped to fit in the bottom of the hull.
The shaft & motor were lined up using some close fitting tubes of brass & aluminium. The wedges were then epoxied in position with the whole thing assembled & aligned.
I cut out the bulkhead behind the rear cockpit with the dremel tool to gain access to where the rudder post would be. Unfortunately there is another bulkhead in the way that I couldn't get at. So The control arm had to be mounted outside the hull with an aircraft braided rod in a nylon sleve exiting the step at the rear of the hull. Not exact scale but it works.
The boat now felt very heavy & with the batteries added it felt too heavy. But surprise surprise it floats right on the waterline.
Looks like I've got the shaft angle and/or the prop depth wrong because the prop cavitates & you can see the air being sucked in at the corner of the step when she gets up a bit of speed. I don't want to try & get the prop shaft out now to change it, so I'll try some different props & I'll upgrade the motor to a 14.4v to maybe get the boat up out of the water a bit more.
I tried some skirts made from aluminium behind the step & under the hull which helped a bit but there must be a better solution.
All in all I'm quite pleased with the outcome & it only took about 10 hours including making up the rudder post & tiller arm.
Here's the result. See what you think.
Paul.

trawlerlover
Nov 18, 2008, 08:44 PM
Nice job, sounds like you got a great deal and it looks great running.

Kmot
Nov 18, 2008, 09:20 PM
Wow! Man that is really nice. Good job, well done!

785boats
Nov 18, 2008, 10:02 PM
Thanks Guys. Once I get it running right I'll be happy.

Look what just popped up on Ebay here. Made by the same company so it should be very similar. I just can't afford it right now. Damn!!
What a glorious looking boat.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Stan-Craft-Torpedo-Sports-Speed-Boat-Wood-Model_W0QQitemZ360108507205QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_15?hash=item360108507205&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308

Paul.

tc432
Nov 18, 2008, 10:18 PM
My friend built the dumas typhoon and the only way he could get rid of the cavitation was to glue in some clear plastic underneath to effectively remove the step. The boat then run perfectly. The plastic is now removable for display purposes.

herrmill
Nov 19, 2008, 08:43 AM
She's a beauty, Paul! I would presume its from Gia Nhien (http://www.gianhien.net/) of Vietnam. They have a huge selection of classic wooden model boats with most shown with RC options available.

Chuck

Kcal
Nov 19, 2008, 03:47 PM
Beautiful boat and one I have always wanted, would a different prop possibly help with the cavitation?

785boats
Nov 20, 2008, 09:54 PM
Thanks for that link Chuck. Man don't they do some nice classics.
Out of the dozen or so scalelike models I have, this is the first one that I didn't scratch build. Feels a bit strange really. But I think i'll do another one one day.

tc432
I might have to do something similar.

Kcal.
I tried every type of prop I have & the result is the same Cavitation at about 3/4 throttle.
I tried ...
30mm, 35mm, 40mm, 45mm. two blade, three blade, submerged drive, surface drive, Cleaver type, Grimracer, Octura, Prather Raboesch, Radio Active, brass, nylon, carbon impregnated, K series Y series, X series V series, & some that I don't have a clue what they are.
Did all that today in a two hour session. :censored:

So I conclude that it's the shaft angle & position that needs to be altered.

The best two props were the Grimracer 40 X 52 three blade surface drive prop & a cheap $4.00 Radioactive brand X40mm 2 blade prop.
With both of these I could hit full throttle & back off a couple of clicks with the throttle stick & the boat would ride quite scale like & only cavitate a bit in sharp turns.

If anyone has a picture or drawing of the shaft & prop angles on this type of hull, be it model or the real thing, I would love to see it so I don't make the same mistake again should I do another one.

All the best.
Paul.