SNAFU in the paint locker

[patmat2350]

Why can't we just run our boats in natural gelcoat colors???? :rolleyes:
You KNOW how I love painting...

Latest lesson learned:

I built a boat cradle from wood and padded it with hardware store rubber weather stripping... nice soft stuff, and unlike some rubber, it didn't stick to the hull. All good, I figure.

After sanding and washing the hull, I primed it... looks great!

Now I start shooting color... except, what's that streak in the paint? Oh, there's another one at the other end! Oops, right where the primed hull has been sitting on the rubber. !@@$#^ Some plasticizer or another must have been sucked out of the rubber into the primer.

So, I strip the paint to bare gelcoat there, will have to clean it up tomorrow, reprime, recolor...

And for now, the rubber is covered with loose fabric, need to come up with something else...

:censored:

[more coffee]

holy crap man .... who would have thought ...was it neoprene,or something ... that sucks ..

[toesup]

Or dont put the foam rubber on the stand until the boat is painted..

It gives you something to do while the paint is drying.. ;)

[thorsail]

Hey Patmat
Your in Detroit ? what about getting a scrap(s) of some nice Sunbrella
type boat canvas from a local sailmaker/canvas shop - comes in nice colors
and very yachty looking . Or how about some felt from a fabric store ?
I built a cradle for my Soling 1Meter sailboat and used little strips of some
neutral shade leather ( cow hide) I had laying around to go between the
hull and the cradle .

Allan
Chicago

[laser110]

Patmat first, what are you building? The hull looks very cool. Second have you tried felt? When I built my Happy Hunter I built a stand and covered the areas touching the hull with felt. I bought the kind that has a sticky back. I cut a piece that was the length I needed and roughly the same width with a little overage. I peeled off the back and laid down my felt. Then took a sharp blade and carefully trimmed it to fit.

I built my boat and when I was done decided to use the stand as a display stand. I removed the felt, sanded it clean and smooth, stained the wood and gave it 5-8 coats of varnish. The result was a mirror finish that adds to the model. I then replaced the felt as I did in the building and the whole thing looks great.

Scott

[toesup]

Second have you tried felt?

Does anyone know where i can get felt?.. :o

[ropanach]

talk to miss. toe"s :eek: :D :D :)

[MILLERTIME]

I get felt at Hancock Fabrics. :eek:

http://www.hancockfabrics.com/viewfdsearch.htm?profile=&query=felt&numHits=24

[jeepers1940]

My local Hobby Lobby has felt in handy 9" x 12" sheets in a variety of colors. Even with felt, though, I'd be sure the hull paint was thoroughly dry.

[herrmill]

Over here if you want felt, you just walk into one of the local "barbershops" found on almost any street corner.. :D :D :D

[patmat2350]

Sheesh guys, why post any boat stuff here anymore? The conversation just goes unhelpfully off topic, and degenerates from there. Not to mention offending the entire Toes clan...

Laser, the build thread is here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933829

Yes, felt is probably the best, but I wanted something thicker and more compliant to avoid having to bevel the cradle edges to fit the hull. Robbe included some nice thick low density felt in one kit I had, but I haven't seen anything like it around here...

[NotSoOldSalt]

Does anyone know where i can get felt?.. :o

I got mine at my local WallyWorld, in the crafts section. It comes in pieces that are about 12" X 12" and in different colors.

Mike

[woodybob]

Felt absorbs water, not good for a boat or the felt, fresh off the pond.
I use this stuff, Polyurethane Foam Strip Adhesive Back, from McMaster-Carr (http://www.mcmaster.com/), part # 93655K33. Been on the C~C cradle for over 15 years and it’s just like it was the day it was applied. Just used the same stuff from 15 years ago for the Springer cradle. Never seen any staining or transfer of the material to the hull. It doesn't absorb water either.

[charlie eaton]

Pat, I use felt selfsticking strips from WallMart and have had no problems with them. Its the stuff found in the hardware section or craft section. Yes felt does get wet but like the boat it will dry out and it gives good protection for the paint job.

[patmat2350]

Felt: The typical hardware store stuff is real thin, or coarse, or both... I really like that Robbe stuff, super thick!
Foam: Another that I've never had bad luck with (sticking-to-the-paint-wise) is the stuff that pool noodles are made of... and I think some caulking backer strip too? That might work...
Or just bite the bullet and contour the cradle supports, and maybe use carpet...

Paint Job Recovery (in case of paint contamination by sinister but unknown chemicals):
1. Wipe off all paint with lacquer thinner to bare gelcoat;
2. After it dries again, wet sand to feather out;
3. Since you used heavy bodied primer-surfacer, fill up the gap again with more;
4. Wet sand smooth;
5. Repaint the color.

Color tip of the day:
I've never been happy with hull bottom colors... either too bright a red, or too brown for my taste (like "Boxcar Red", which is brown...). But I just discovered Model Master "British Crimson", which has the perfect mix of brown and red for my taste. Three bottles of the stuff are going on here.

[Aerominded]

Sheesh guys, why post any boat stuff here anymore? The conversation just goes unhelpfully off topic, and degenerates from there.

At least I didn't mention beer... :o

Sorry to read about the setback with the paint, Pat- I know how frustrating that can be-

Re: cradles, I build mine exacly like Laser110, Felt padding, etc. except I start with a coat of West. Works very well... Have not had to replace the felt yet but that would be easy if it needs to be done-

:)

[jmolwitz]

I use clean brown box cardboard to lay stuff on or in . So do a lot of auto body guys I've seen .

[Kcal]

Color tip of the day:
I've never been happy with hull bottom colors... either too bright a red, or too brown for my taste (like "Boxcar Red", which is brown...). But I just discovered Model Master "British Crimson", which has the perfect mix of brown and red for my taste. Three bottles of the stuff are going on here.

Thank you a very helpful tip, now if Testors would only make the cans larger model sized......

[norgale]

I like a nice Bugrundy for bottom paint. Looks like your problem is solved but wonder what caused the rubber to do that? Never saw that before. Pete