Wicked Powered Hobby Lobby F9F Panther

[The Don]

I got my F9F Panther kit from Hobby Lobby today. I bought the ARF version. It comes with servos installed , brushless inrunner motor, 30 amp ESC, and lipo. All you need is a receiver really. I wanted to add more power so I took out the stock fan unit and I am going to install a Wicked 4000 motor for starters. I was going to go with the Wicked 4800 but I am out of stock on Pentum 40 ESCs so I am going ahead on the Wicked 4000 and 30 amp ESC. My tests are showing 300 watts on a 3S 1650 lipo in the stock fan. This should make it fly nice. I may go up to the Wicked 4800 later.

I also removed the nose wheel servo and the nose gear mount. I am going to hand launch this so I do not want the gear hanging around.

More photos to come :)

Don

[wagnerg]

Thanks for sharing your log on this. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

George

[Tarro]

My stock Panther is very fast stock, this thing should really move. :D

[brati4]

What fan are you going with? Will a 3s 2200 batt fit in the bay?

[Ks.jetflyer]

The add says comes with 4300kv motor. Just wondering why you changed to a lower kv. 4s maybe? I'll be watching, mine shoud be here Fri........Howard

[The Don]

The add says comes with 4300kv motor. Just wondering why you changed to a lower kv. 4s maybe? I'll be watching, mine shoud be here Fri........Howard

The KV is only part of the story. The stock inrunner is only 20mm and has less torque than a Wicxked motor. So even though the KV is higher on the inrunner the rpm underload is lower. I get about 1000-1500 more rpm on the Wicked 4000 than the stock setup. I think the stock power may be just fine about 250-270 watts but the motor after 20 seconds was already up to 170F and I am a WOT flyer and since I have had a lot of people buy Wicked motors due to the stock inrunners burning up in the Rafale, F-18, and similar, I figured it was not worth using it unless you fly partial throttle most of the time.

Don

[Ks.jetflyer]

Don, Thanks for the info. I knew there had to be a reason. I will probably have to change from the stock setup. I'm planning on using a 3s setup, is the 4000kv the best way to go......Howard

[The Don]

I am on the fence. I have two 3S1650 packs but I really wanted to use the Wicked 4800 for extra power and a 3S2200. So I cut out the front part of the battery tray out and there is more space for the bigger lipo to fit :D

I think I will go to the Wicked 4800 and bigger lipo as I am sure I will not be happy on the lower power setup. If you are getting yours soon, I suggest flying it as is then if you want more power upgrade. I will take video of my flights.

Don

[The Don]

What fan are you going with? Will a 3s 2200 batt fit in the bay?

I have decided to go back to the Wicked 4800 and a 3S 2200. I am flying belly lander so it was easy to make a 3S 2200 fit. I will post photos of what I did .

Don

[bouncebk2003]

So even with that long nose you think the C.G. will work out?I'll keep an eye on this one.Might be one in my future too!

[wagnerg]

Don,

How is your upgrading going?

George

[The Don]

I finally got my shipment of wicked 4800 motors and Pentium 40 ESCs in so I can start my build again!

Don

[The Don]

Here is todays progress.

Don

[wagnerg]

Looks good! Can't wait to hear how she flies.

George

[Spid]

Good stuff Don. I'm thinking of getting one of these so I'll be really interested to see how this works out for you.

Thx,
Kevin

[The Don]

Good stuff Don. I'm thinking of getting one of these so I'll be really interested to see how this works out for you.
Thx,
Kevin

It is a pretty nice kit and the preapplied decals and paint job are very nice. I never bought a model with the servos installed already but will say it is nice having them already installed. I got a little more done, the epoxy is drying now.

Don

[BARNESJONR]

I also am impressed with the quickness that these RTF EDFs will go together? I am working on the RTF JPower AMX and it went together last evening in about two hours, one hour of which was for me to stage photos for my review.

[The Don]

I also am impressed with the quickness that these RTF EDFs will go together? I am working on the RTF JPower AMX and it went together last evening in about two hours, one hour of which was for me to stage photos for my review.

The assembly time is indeed very fast. The Panther is already done. My only objection is the cheezy blue colored plastic they use for control horns and the battery cage. I will post a photo.

Don

[The Don]

Here it is bascially finished. I did not glue on the canopy as I want to find a pilot first. AUW ready to fly with 3S2200 longmax lipo is 20.4 ounces. Has more than 1:1 thrust to weight :)

Don

[Spid]

Wow is that sharp Don! I know what my next EDF will be. :)

[Frenchy520]

Looks real good Don! Any updates for us on the maiden? Thanks.

Frenchy

[The Don]

Not yet,bad weather, 20mph winds and rain. I may be able to Friday though.

[Frenchy520]

Keeping my fingers crossed for you. My son is thinking about putting one of your extreme 4800 motors in his Starmax F-18 "Red Viper" and using 3s packs. Waiting to see how the Panther works. If you can please post numbers. Thanks and again good luck with the maiden.

Frenchy

[The Don]

Keeping my fingers crossed for you. My son is thinking about putting one of your extreme 4800 motors in his Starmax F-18 "Red Viper" and using 3s packs. Waiting to see how the Panther works. If you can please post numbers. Thanks and again good luck with the maiden.

Frenchy

There is a video on RCG of a that exact plane on the Wicked 4800 motor.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=916098#post10441549

Don

[BARNESJONR]

I just picked one of these up at the HL BF sale! :eek: :D

[The Don]

You will like it very much! Very nice looking model. Let me know what pilot you use as I still need to find one. I am hoping to maiden tomorrow as the weather is looking good, 5 mph winds all day :)

Don

[The Don]

Test flew it today. The maiden went quite well. The one thing which was odd is the CG was spot on but it needed a lot of down trim to fly level. I took some headcam video so will get it up to Youtube later.

Don

[bouncebk2003]

Two very nice birds!!I think the F-117 will be my next one,but I would also like the AMX,and F-9F after that.Waiting for HL to get just the airframe parts back in stock on the AMX. Looking forward to the videos!!

[BARNESJONR]

Just got email from HL saying mine is now Backordered. :(

[NwRcFlight]

I ordered one on the Hobby-Lobby BF sale too. I got my order in about 30 seconds after the F9F showed up on the sale items so hopefully mine isn't on the backorder list. I haven't received an email from HL stating it's backordered so maybe I lucked out.

[NwRcFlight]

Whew. Just got an email that mine has shipped. Now I'll have to drool at the base of the Christmas tree for 25 more days.

[BARNESJONR]

Mine arrived yesterday. GREAT looking little Panther. Next big decision:
Do i go ahead and play with the stock power system or put a Dons motor in it?:D

[The Don]

Mine arrived yesterday. GREAT looking little Panther. Next big decision:
Do i go ahead and play with the stock power system or put a Dons motor in it?:D

You know what my answer will be :D

[lashmett75]

Save yourself the head aches and get a Wicked motor and ESC. That panther is so small it will haul. Im thinking Wicked 4000 with Pentium ESC on 4s.
:D :eek: :censored:

[NwRcFlight]

I agree the color of the plastic parts is cheesy. I couldn't take it out in public that way so I picked up some Testors Blue Angels Blue (Model Master Acryl). The color looked good but wasn't quite right so I found some Navy Blue at the craft store that is a little closer. It's still not a perfect match but it'll do for now. It looks pretty good out in the natural light (on the bench the match didn't seem quite so close). This is the first RTF I've ever taken the time to do any detail work on. I usually just assemble and fly. It's a testament to how much this plane appeals to me.

I really like the engineering work that went in to the design of this plane and the generous screw on access hatch for the motor and fan so I can do a Wicked upgrade some day. This is a very nice model and I'm glad I found the Panther threads that alerted me to it's existence. It's also an amazingly quick build.

[NwRcFlight]

Here's my F9F Panther in the hangar. I maidened it this week but didn't do a video as it was too foggy out. This plane flies great! I'm very happy with it. I'll have a flight video in about 10 days. I'm temporarily working out of town.

My Hangar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8WZbmStHiw)

[The Don]

Just curious on your Panther, did it need any down elevator trim to fly level under power?

[NwRcFlight]

I did need down elevator. On the first launch it wanted to climb pretty steep. I fly from a grass field and a fellow club member hand launched it. It is a blast to fly but it was a foggy day so I had to keep it close in. It was plenty fast for me. I also needed quite a bit of left aileron. It wanted to roll right.

On the second flight at another location I had a friend do the hand launch. Big mistake! He had never done a hand launch and he basically just let it go. It was a cold day (about 38 degrees) and I'm sure I was suffering some power loss from the cold. Anyway I didn't have enough momentum to get going or power to recover and I need to do a little work on the nose now!

[The Don]

I flew my Panther today but got a short flight, after about 30 seconds the rotor threw all 5 blades off in flight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETjifiv9jM&feature=channel_page

[stuntflier91]

Does anyone know what kind of receiver comes in the rtf version of this plane? Also, the rtf version does not come with a tx does it?

Thanks for the help!!
-stuntflier91-

[The Don]

Sorry I do not but they are generic chinese receivers and not the best quality.

[Prof100]

Sorry I do not but they are generic chinese receivers and not the best quality.

Don,

What fan did you use to replace the stock one that tossed the blades.

Bill

[The Don]

The EDO fans I sell on my website are the same rotor. I have a new shipment due in any day now.

Don

[The Don]

Just tracked it, cleared customs so I should have the fans tomorrow.

Don

[Prof100]

The EDO fans I sell on my website are the same rotor. I have a new shipment due in any day now.

Don

Don,

Thanks. Is the 4000KV motor too much for these fans?

Mine just arrived and the cheesy blue is gone. They are now painted with a dark color.

Bill

[The Don]

On 3S or 4S? What color paint/brand did you use?

Don

[Prof100]

On 3S or 4S? What color paint/brand did you use?

Don

It came painted with the proper color from the factory. Go figure.

Regarding the 4000 KV I can run 3S or 4S. I have an inventory of both. I ordered some 20 C 3S 2200 Flightmax batteries from HC that are very light that another flyer uses on his stock Panther and it's an easy mod to fit them to the plane without too much effort. I also have several 20 and 25C 4S 2200 which are a bit heavier which means some gyrations to keep the CG in the right spot.

Preference would be to have more speed but use the lightweight 3S 20C 2200s without having replace the fan. The stock motor with the 2200 is good a six minute flight times.

Bill

[The Don]

I have run the fan on 4S with no issues. Just balance it and you should be OK. Also my shipment of EDO fans arrived and are back in stock.

Don

[Prof100]

Don,

What about 4800 motor with 2200 20C 3S pack? I assume it would need a 40 amp ESC. Correct?

Fan balance as well I assume.

Bill

[The Don]

The 4800 on 3S2200 with a 40 amp ESC is how I fly mine. I also reduced the exit nozzle to get an 80% FSA outlet. It scoots quite well now :) I balance if it needs it.

[Prof100]

The 4800 on 3S2200 with a 40 amp ESC is how I fly mine. I also reduced the exit nozzle to get an 80% FSA outlet. It scoots quite well now :) I balance if it needs it.

Don,

Thanks. Can you point be to a decent thread on balancing fans? I balance my props all the time.

Bill

[The Don]

It is some what of a 'art'. Static balancing means nothing you have to dynamic balance. Generally what I do on this specific fan is tap on a 1/4" sq piece of scotch tape to a blade the run it up and keep moving to the next blade to find the right blade to balance it. It is tedious.

Don

[Prof100]

It is some what of a 'art'. Static balancing means nothing you have to dynamic balance. Generally what I do on this specific fan is tap on a 1/4" sq piece of scotch tape to a blade the run it up and keep moving to the next blade to find the right blade to balance it. It is tedious.

Don

Don,

I get it. That's how I balanced my ceiling fans. I know it's a stretch, but that's how you do a ceiling fan.

I assume, once the tape exercise is done you use a little CA with accelerator. Correct


Bill

[The Don]

That will work, or you can place some weight inside the spinner hub since you know the location. Usually you will need about twice the amount of tape in the hub as placed out on the tip since it is closer in.

[Prof100]

That will work, or you can place some weight inside the spinner hub since you know the location. Usually you will need about twice the amount of tape in the hub as placed out on the tip since it is closer in.

Do,

Thanks. With centrifugal force it's probably better to put the tape inside the hub.

I assume you use the Cone Layout program. What were the parameters?

Bill

[Prof100]

The 4800 on 3S2200 with a 40 amp ESC is how I fly mine. I also reduced the exit nozzle to get an 80% FSA outlet. It scoots quite well now :) I balance if it needs it.

Don,

Do you still recommend 80% exit on a thrust tube? That is, 51 mm?

Bill (I just ordered one)

[The Don]

I love mine at the 80% goes like it is suppose to :-)

[Prof100]

I love mine at the 80% goes like it is suppose to :-)

I will have to try the EJF Solo cup version of a thrust tube rather than roll my own.

Are you running a 2200 mah pack?

[The Don]

No need to roll one for this plane, it is about 90% as is, all you have to do is cut a long thin triangle piece about 3" long and 3/8" wide on the underside then squeeze the foam together and reglue it. I call it the nip and tuck :D I am running a 3S 2200 lipo in mine with the Wicked 4800.

[Prof100]

No need to roll one for this plane, it is about 90% as is, all you have to do is cut a long thin triangle piece about 3" long and 3/8" wide on the underside then squeeze the foam together and reglue it. I call it the nip and tuck :D I am running a 3S 2200 lipo in mine with the Wicked 4800.

Don,

Cool, plastic surgery for EDFs.

Bill

[Prof100]

I just completed the nip tuck . I brought it down to 82% FSA. I added a piece of Extreme tape to seal the incision.

[The Don]

Nice! The beast part of a nip and tuck like that is you do not notice anything unusual and no plastic tube to make :D

[Prof100]

Nice! The beast part of a nip and tuck like that is you do not notice anything unusual and no plastic tube to make :D

Too bad they aren't all that easy. Thanks for the tip on the modification.

Bill

[Prof100]

New EDO fan and 4800 motor received. Fan and motor came screwed together. Thanks.

Tomorrow I will install the longer leads and connectors then install the new fan in the Panther.

What do you use to glue the fan back in?

Bill

[The Don]

I use foam safe CA.

Don

[Prof100]

I use foam safe CA.

Don

Don,

I used low temp hot glue.

BLADES hit shroud.
BTW, the fan you sent with the motor has witness marks where the blades hit the shroud on two sides. It looks like someone pinched the fan and caused the blades to hit the shroud.

Bill

[The Don]

The blades will hit generally the first time you run it up WOT, part of the break in process but then I know when I send it that it is ready to mount.

Don

[Prof100]

The blades will hit generally the first time you run it up WOT, part of the break in process but then I know when I send it that it is ready to mount.

Don

Consider it broken in. :D

[Prof100]

Don,

The Wicked 4800 with Pentium 40 amp and 2200-20C Flightmaxx pack maidened today in 15-20 mph winds. It flew great, but not "ballistic." It went to near cutoff at 5min 30 seconds. Timer is now set to 4.5 minutes.

Great motor for that plane. Thanks.

I have not dopplered the new setup but I will. I would guesstimate 60-65 mph, maybe 70 out of a dive.

Bill

[Brner]

Don,

Do you know anything about this F9F? Slightly larger than the one from HL and a 70mm fan. What would you recommend for a motor for this one, if you think it's any good at all?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/70f9fpaedfai1.html

[rcwck]

Don,

Do you know anything about this F9F? Slightly larger than the one from HL and a 70mm fan. What would you recommend for a motor for this one, if you think it's any good at all?

http://www.hobbypartz.com/70f9fpaedfai1.html

I had one of those. It was a nice flyer after the incidence of horizontal stab was set at zero. I would check it before final assembly. I think that kit is minus all power. Don has a new motor for 70mm fans and a great esc also.
http://donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=82
http://donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=43
He doesn't carry any 70mm fans but this is a good one w/free shipping:
http://www.epproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=82_80_188&products_id=230&zenid=56c4435aa0a4ea073e95b9258207ade0

[The Don]

I have a Lander Panther as well, have not flown it yet, hope to soon.

Don

[SEALen]

Love to see a pic of this 80% "nip/tuck" you are talking about.

[Prof100]

Love to see a pic of this 80% "nip/tuck" you are talking about.

No need now, it's post surgery.

To create it simply cut a wedge from the bottom 3" long starting with 3/8" then taper to a point. Glue with foam safe CA and accelerator while holding it together until it kicks. I added a piece of Extreme 3M as an additional reinforcement. It was the easiest thrust tube I ever did.

[The Don]

Same method I used on my BD-5

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11408845#post11408845

[rcwck]

No need now, it's post surgery.

To create it simply cut a wedge from the bottom 3" long starting with 3/8" then taper to a point. Glue with foam safe CA and accelerator while holding it together until it kicks. I added a piece of Extreme 3M as an additional reinforcement. It was the easiest thrust tube I ever did.

Been seeing Extreme 3M tape in posts. Is it the same as 3M's Blenderm? From the online descriptions it sounds like the same but available in 10mm widths. Does someone carry it locally or do you have to order it?

[Prof100]

Been seeing Extreme 3M tape in posts. Is it the same as 3M's Blenderm? From the online descriptions it sounds like the same but available in 10mm widths. Does someone carry it locally or do you have to order it?

No, it is not Blenderm. 3M Extreme tape is the size of packing tape but with threads at 90 degrees. You can buy it at Office Depot and Office Max. It's a bit pricey but it works great for reinforcement and it sticks so well. That's all I use on foamy airplanes.

Blenderm and 3M Extreme tape both have excellent adhesion properties. Blenderm can stretch, but Extreme tape won't.


Bill

[drypipe]

Guys. Everyone should try this in the StarMax F9F Panther and their other foam jets. I have this 64mm Cyclone Power "Red Velocity" (Made by Rc-Lander) in my Art-Tech Mig-15! Found at www.rc-castle.com.

[Prof100]

Guy everyone should try this in the StarMax F9F Panther. I have this 64mm Cyclone Power "Red Velocity" (Made by Rc-Lander) in my Art-Tech Mig-15! Found at www.rc-castle.com.

It's nice looking and I am sure it's a great fan and motor combo but this is the thread about Don's Wicked Panther which, by the way, with a 4800 KV Don's Wicked motor, stock fan and 40 amp Pentium provides fantastic performance. Best of all it's faster than stock and it won't melt the fan from the stock inrunner that climbs to 170 deg. F. if run hard.

[The Don]

Bill,

You beat me to it.

Don

[drypipe]

I do appologise for my side bar interruption, but I can't help it when there is a slight opportunity to enlighten fellow brother edf jet enthusiasts to something that offers FANTASTIC performance at a reasonable price. My Art-tech Mig-15 is now nose to nose with my brother's Rc-Lander Panther. Clocked @ 109mph!

I do have Don's Wicked 4800 Motor and I love its performance in my Afla Mig-15!! I always recommend this motor and Pentium 40A esc to all the guys who fly the Alfa Jets at my club!


PlaNE NuTs,
Drypipe.

[Prof100]

I do appologise for my side bar interruption, but I can't help it when there is a slight opportunity to enlighten fellow brother edf jet enthusiasts to something that offers FANTASTIC performance at a reasonable price. My Art-tech Mig-15 is now nose to nose with my brothers Rc-Lander Panther. Clocked @ 109mph!

I do have Don's Wicked 4800 Motor and I love its performance in my Afla Mig-15!!


PlaNE NuTs,
Drypipe.

Drypipe,

I know, you just couldn't help yourself ;) .

109 mph is impressive. How did you measure it? Doppler, radar?

[drypipe]

No, my cousin has a Bushnell Speedster II radar gun.

I am sorry or this interruption and I do not wish to criticize Don's set up or hijack this very informative thread, but the fan unit does work quite well-great. It also offers exceptional cooling or heat displacement because the entire unit is machined from aluminum alloy that acts like a heat exchanger or heat sink. Also I must say that this Red Velocity unit sounds like a real gas turbine engine, even more so than HET's (High End Technology) Typhoon 2W-20 unit and Hoffman Magnetics Beast EDF units!!
With these cheap fomies, you must reinforce the wings with carbon rods or you will have a very fast V2 rocket. Tim Wan' from RC-Lander, told me to set the unit back 40mm in order that the fan's metal spinner clears the carbon rod that supports the wing. This was a Pain in the neck trying to re-seat the fan correctly.


PlanE nUtS,
Drypipe

[drypipe]

A lone voice in the wilderness.
Well, I must get back to my new project and install another Rc-Lander Cyclone Power "Red Velocity" 64mm EDF unit into my new F-84 Thunderjet:

pLanE NutS,

Drypipe.

[The Don]

If you are going to keep spamming my thread I will have no choice to delete your posts.

Don

[drypipe]

Sorry Don. I really had no intention of slamming your wicked 4800 or Wicked Extreme 5400. In fact, I have the 5400 in all my Alfa Jets! I will never go back to the Littlescreamers or the Mega 15/16/3.

I guess I am just over excited about the lander Red Velocity's performance and forgot my thread manners. I often do this on a new venture. Forgive me.

Did you ever finish that lander Panther? Did you get the PVC covered version? Any retracts? I would like to see the maiden flight!

Regards,
Drypipe.

[The Don]

I am not trying to be a jerk it is just that this is the DonsRC forum and this thread is for the discussion of the Wicked powered Panther model. If this thread was under the general Foamy EDF forum then discuss all you want. But the purpose for having my own dedicated forum is to discuss the products I sell in various airframes to help my customers with the build and installation into their model. If you want to discuss the fan system you installed then perhaps this other thread is a more appropriate place to do it.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945010

Posting links here to a competitor is no different than going into the Castle Creations forum and post how great the Hobby City ESCs are then post links to them. I am glad you like your fan unit, I just do not think this is the correct forum to discuss it :)

Don

[Prof100]

Sorry Don. I really had no intention of slamming your wicked 4800 or Wicked Extreme 5400. In fact, I have the 5400 in all my Alfa Jets! I will never go back to the Littlescreamers or the Mega 15/16/3.

I guess I am just over excited about the lander Red Velocity's performance and forgot my thread manners. I often do this on a new venture. Forgive me.

Did you ever finish that lander Panther? Did you get the PVC covered version? Any retracts? I would like to see the maiden flight!

Regards,
Drypipe.

Drypipe,

It is just etiquette since this thread is here so Don can help me sort out problems or answer questions regarding using his equipment in my HL Panther. This is what he did for me and my Panther. He helped sort out the optional motors and escs that meet my desire to upgrade the plane.

Don't motors work in these planes. The stock inrunner in this plane is a crispy critter waiting to happen at worse and at best a heat gun that melts the fan if shut down from a hard run without cooling. Too bad I can't just buy the airframe for a reasonable price and install Don's Wicked 4800 in this plane. I found the airframe only on ebay offer but the price, with shipping, pushes it above $96 which is no deal if you can buy on a Crash sale for few dollars more.

Just so you know, if you had posted a recommendation to buy Don's power system on a competitors forum it would simply disappear.

Bill

[Alphamox]

Hi fellas,

I recieved my package today...took me 30 minutes to install and measure the CG according to the manual. I had one flight this evening and I must say that this plane has come alive. The stock power was good, but this plane flies similar to my stock 70mm 4S planes.....I would like to thank Don for his patience and work... I will be buying your products in the near future..

One question I would like to ask is to the people with this upgrade. What is the longest you have flown it?. I'm talking timed flights and not approximations. I was hoping that this plane can fly between 5-6 minutes similar to my stock 4S 70mm jets...


Thanks Again

[Prof100]

Hi fellas,

I recieved my package today...took me 30 minutes to install and measure the CG according to the manual. I had one flight this evening and I must say that this plane has come alive. The stock power was good, but this plane flies similar to my stock 70mm 4S planes.....I would like to thank Don for his patience and work... I will be buying your products in the near future..

One question I would like to ask is to the people with this upgrade. What is the longest you have flown it?. I'm talking timed flights and not approximations. I was hoping that this plane can fly between 5-6 minutes similar to my stock 4S 70mm jets...


Thanks Again


In a flight where most of the flight is wide open here is what you get:

4800 KV motor
2200 20c 3S
Balanced fan
Flight style or mode of operations: 90% WOT
Flight duration: 4 min 30 secs
Pack reserve at end of flight: 9%

If you are more moderate in how your fly you can get 5-6 minutes.

[Alphamox]

I mainly engage WOT on a long straight.....or exiting a slow, low speed pass through the field......

So by reading your comments I can expect to fly 5-6 minutes...I don't engage WOT all the time....

Thanks

[Prof100]

I mainly engage WOT on a long straight.....or exiting a slow, low speed pass through the field......

So by reading your comments I can expect to fly 5-6 minutes...I don't engage WOT all the time....

Thanks

Yes, "your mileage will vary" :D based on how hard you fly it. I have known people who think they fly fast when they don't and I know people who think their flights are conservative, but firewall the throttle for much of the flight.

Bill

[jimweda]

I am not trying to be a jerk it is just that this is the DonsRC forum and this thread is for the discussion of the Wicked powered Panther model. If this thread was under the general Foamy EDF forum then discuss all you want. But the purpose for having my own dedicated forum is to discuss the products I sell in various airframes to help my customers with the build and installation into their model. If you want to discuss the fan system you installed then perhaps this other thread is a more appropriate place to do it.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=945010

Posting links here to a competitor is no different than going into the Castle Creations forum and post how great the Hobby City ESCs are then post links to them. I am glad you like your fan unit, I just do not think this is the correct forum to discuss it :)

Don

He seems to be on a mission or something. He's made the same comment in other forums. Why is he pushing someone else's product so much. Keep up the good work Don. You're helping and making a lot of happy customers with your products and your support.

[stuart warne]

Don, would I get stock performance on your 4000 motor and the supplied esc on the F9F? I'm getting one soon but I don't really want you fork out for another esc and I have plenty of 3S lipo's I'd like to use. Ideally I'm looking for stock or a little better than stock performance with the 4000 motor and the supplied esc on 3S.


Stuart.

[Lavendertravel]

Don, I'm flying your 4800 with your 40 ESC and the original fan balanced 3 sells 1500 and loving it. Everyone likes the looks of this plane and it is nice to know I am not going to burn it up since I have your motor in it. Thanks for the help it sure is a lot of smooth flying fun.

[The Don]

Don, would I get stock performance on your 4000 motor and the supplied esc on the F9F? I'm getting one soon but I don't really want you fork out for another esc and I have plenty of 3S lipo's I'd like to use. Ideally I'm looking for stock or a little better than stock performance with the 4000 motor and the supplied esc on 3S.
Stuart.

The Wicked 4000 in the stock fan and lipo will pull about 29 amps and get you about 1 ounce more thrust. As long as your came with a 30 amp ESC you will be OK. Some kits I heard had 25 amp ESCs in them.

Don

[dmonday]

Got my motor and fan unit ordered! I can't wait to fly it again. I haven't even got to practice those "perfect" landings yet.

[dmonday]

Just received my 4000 motor and edo fan unit. On the fan unit I got , I had to file down 4 fins (where the stand off unit goes into the motor housing), but then it fit just fine. Hopefully I will get it mounted back in the plane tonight, our newborn kind of cuts into the hobbies a little bit........but man its worth it!

[dmonday]

I got to fly my plane with Don's 4000 motor, very similar to stock performance (minus the melting/smoke) :) I flew on the stock battery for 6 minutes. I have the timer set for 5 but the wind gusts would not cooperate with me on the first pass so I took it back out over the field and landed the next pass (with a "I won't get another chance" attitude). It was crab walking across the landing strip but I did set it down nice and easy with a big "sigh" after it touched down. I even got a few cheers from, what looked to be, a family reunion at the park I fly at. CG seems to have moved back very slightly but I ordered 2 more batteries that weigh slightly more, so that should fix it.

[Prof100]

Here you go -- A Don's 4800 with 40 amp Pentium ESC performance numbers and specs when installed in the HL Panther.

Thrust tube modification to reduce exhaust diameter. I call it the Don's "nip tuck" procedure. It provides the same benefit of thrust tube. It is simply a 3' long taper cutout that starts with 3/8". Cut out the slice, and glue together. Bingo, thrust tube.

AUW weight with Flightmaxx 2200 pack = 23.0 oz.
17.5 ounces empty and 5.5 ounce battery.

31 ounces of thrust with a charged pack that's been sitting for a few days.