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rmdesignworks
Oct 28, 2008, 07:06 PM
Something I've wondered about,, is where is the fueling nozzle or port/station on tugboats or similar vessels? It's a detail I haven't seen moeled or at least mentioned on anyone's model.

Filler tube with a high pressure cap or a small hatch or maybe take the refueling hose in through a cabin hatch to refuel below decks?

Anyone know? Maybe TowboatJoe has a few ideas?!

patmat2350
Oct 28, 2008, 07:25 PM
In the old days, you'd find coal scuppers (like small manhole covers) on deck alongside the cabin. Now, look for diesel spigots on the exterior cabin wall, like the yellow one here...

Prins Willem
Oct 28, 2008, 07:25 PM
Fuel fillers and other connections on the tug Ludington in Kewaunee, WI. Ludington was a USACE tug and is now a museum boat.

toesup
Oct 28, 2008, 08:01 PM
Red valves are fire, blue, I believe, is potable water.

Yes, blue is potable water, red is fire...

But there were also Orange and yellow ones on Scout... :confused:

I dont think i asked the Scout Captain where the fuel filler was..

CaptLee
Oct 28, 2008, 08:10 PM
The Canadian tug at Vancouver had flush caps mounted in the deck towards the rear of the cabin. Just unscrew and insert a nozzle similar to the gas station ones. The Skipper said that his scheduled replacement liked it only half full, but he preferred it filled up himself.

Tugboat Andy
Oct 28, 2008, 08:38 PM
Yes, blue is potable water, red is fire...

But there were also Orange and yellow ones on Scout... :confused:

I dont think i asked the Scout Captain where the fuel filler was..

One might be lube oil or bilge water. Not sure what colors they use for gray or black water (if they are even separated)

Some newer boats have the fueling station up against the deckhouse with a low wall acting as a dam to retain any fuel drips or burps. Maybe I can find some examples.

rmdesignworks
Oct 28, 2008, 09:46 PM
Wow,,I guess towboatJoe and a few others,,,great info keep goin on this kind of stuff,,isn't yellow for kerosene? and green for lube oil?

Aerominded
Oct 28, 2008, 09:52 PM
Yellow = Diesel... :)

Prins Willem
Oct 28, 2008, 10:10 PM
I don't remember seeing the septic tank (brown water) pump out on the Ludington. Maybe I can get the Door County Maritime Museum to supply some pics of the John Purves' hook ups.

Tugboat Andy
Oct 29, 2008, 01:29 AM
Well, I started searching the research annex and found this picture. Not sure exactly what the plumbing is for but it looks cool. :)

towboatjoe
Oct 29, 2008, 09:06 AM
I can't speak for the blue water tugs, but on inland river boats blue is potable water, green is lube oil, orange is bilge, and red is fuel.
EDIT: I ment orange/black is bilge and orange is hydralic fluid

toesup
Oct 29, 2008, 12:06 PM
....and red is fuel.

If thats the case (and looking at Andy's pic too) this must be the fuel 'in' on Crowley's Scout..

TROUBLEMONSTER
Oct 29, 2008, 02:19 PM
Here in the gulf on the OSV's our fuel fills are a pipe usually with elbow and a valve with a camlock fitting like in some of the pictures above. Color codes vary from company to company some of the popular color codes I have seen are Carrabian blue-potable water. sea green- ballast water. Safety yellow-fuel. Lube oil safety yellow and black striped. grey-grey water. Teak(Dark brown)-sewage. grey-grey water (I have also seen hyd oil grey). orange- Hyd oil. Alpine green-compressed air. Red-fire fighting piping. If you are looking to add detail don't forget to add vents Pictured below. All tanks fuel, water, etc all have vents. Fuel and oil vents and fills have containments around them. Pic 1 fuel vents. pic 2 ballast fill.

CG Bob
Oct 29, 2008, 07:17 PM
Color codes for USCG & USN vessels (with FS 595 standard colors) is:
Steam - White 17925
Potable Water - Dark Blue 15044
JP-5 - Purple 17142
Fuel Oil/Gasoline - Yellow 13538
Lube Oil - Striped Yellow/Black 13538/17038
Hydraulic FLuid - Orange 12246
Sewage - Gold 17043

towboatjoe
Oct 29, 2008, 07:44 PM
Orange is usually hydralic fluid. The nameplate above the orange/ black is marked bilge. Here are some photo of a fire station and don't forget the Halon station too. They're regulation now.

Aerominded
Oct 29, 2008, 07:48 PM
I'm surprized that these color codes are determined at the 'company level' and are not standard across the industry... Probably not a problem but could be confusing for some... Sure would hate to charge fire fighting equipment with fuel or vice versa! (both coded red in different companys)

Tugboat Andy
Oct 29, 2008, 09:02 PM
... Sure would hate to charge fire fighting equipment with fuel or vice versa! (both coded red in different companys)

I'd be more worried about contaminating the potable water!!! :eek: :D

The more I look at the picture I posted, the more I wonder what that piping is for. Wish I had read the labels when I was there. :rolleyes:

towboatjoe
Oct 29, 2008, 11:55 PM
The colors are standard on inland river vessels.