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F.Cena

Oct 27, 2008, 09:29 AM

We are a Chinese manufacturer specializing in sailplanes--Flying Eagle Model. We are a new name in this industry but we offer some really good stuff.

We're currently working on some new designs. Hopefully we can release new models early next year. You're gonna like them because they will be as good as they look and more importantly, affordable. Let more people join in this small community of ours.

At the same time, we hope to work with more sailplane designers. We can massively turn your design into something as beautiful and ideally durable.

Here is the link of our online album: http://picasaweb.google.com/fk1188.

For more info., please email me at fk1188@gmail.com or call: 0086-769-82874115

Regards,
Jason

Please note: We will not take any new orders of our previous model Vento nor will we advertise in any kind.

Doubletap

Oct 27, 2008, 10:01 AM

Do you have a website with more information?

Doubletap

F.Cena

Oct 27, 2008, 10:41 AM

Do you have a website with more information?

Doubletap

Sorry, our website is currently under construction. I'll post more information here also more pictures in the album.

chip.greely

Oct 27, 2008, 11:09 AM

Do you have pricing and shipping to US?

jrbike

Oct 27, 2008, 11:09 AM

What Chip said...

robjae

Oct 27, 2008, 11:26 AM

Send me one, I would be happy to give it a try. :)

Scott Seidler

Oct 27, 2008, 02:51 PM

subscribed
-Scott

Greygoosegregg

Oct 27, 2008, 03:14 PM

How much??? I'll try one out for you.... =)

chip.greely

Oct 27, 2008, 04:22 PM

........our purpose is not so much to make money as to earn a reputation in this community.

What Mfgr Name are you trying to establish?

Smashed_Toad

Oct 28, 2008, 12:12 AM

Indarotor

Oct 28, 2008, 02:48 AM

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F.Cena

Oct 28, 2008, 08:43 AM

Is it possible to visit your factory?

I will be in Donguan City from Nov 20-23.

I would like to see this plane.

Welcome. Let's keep in touch. My email address is fk1188@gmail.com

F.Cena

Oct 28, 2008, 09:17 AM

Guys, more pictures uploaded.

Please go visit: http://picasaweb.google.com/fk1188

Thanks.

Doubletap

Oct 28, 2008, 10:16 AM

What is the name of your company? Also, can you list some specifications of the models you are producing and pricing for 1 piece and volume?

Thanks,

Doubletap

Louied

Oct 28, 2008, 11:03 AM

Please more info as stated above.

carlesf3b

Oct 28, 2008, 11:38 AM

http://picasaweb.google.com/fk1188/Sailplanes#

It's time for the clones :cool:

http://www.south-coast-sailplanes.com/planes/bladexxl.asp

It's the same model??

wakumann

Oct 28, 2008, 11:56 AM

It's time for the clones

http://www.south-coast-sailplanes.c...es/bladexxl.asp

It's the same model??

Clones ?
there are some simularities in all Modells

No not the same as the X Model Blade XXL
the single (10mm) Joiner and the Fuse are completly different.

Looks good on the pictures, for a non competitive sport model why not.

m2c

Thomas

bluffman

Oct 28, 2008, 01:02 PM

can't find the pictures

seerspaz

Oct 28, 2008, 02:32 PM

Try this link (http://picasaweb.google.com/fk1188)

I like the guy standing on the wings!! LOL!!! :D

And then the bandsaw going through the wing. Nice sacrifice for the hordes!

belouder

Oct 28, 2008, 03:22 PM

how much?

jrbike

Oct 28, 2008, 04:55 PM

can't find the pictures

Scroll down the page for pics.

Looks like a rockin' plane. I'm not an expert, but it seems well built. For me it would come down to price (and shipping since it's coming to me from half-way around the world).

Doc Holiday48

Oct 28, 2008, 06:25 PM

I viewed the pictures earlier, but now the link does not work. Did you all scare him away with talk of the clone??

Bob

belouder

Oct 28, 2008, 06:30 PM

go to the latest link and click the single pic-it will open a folder

HIPPO CHANG

Oct 29, 2008, 07:25 AM

Here's the film taking a flight test: http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=OzA-XXu9F94

Because the recent wind condition is not good, the wind speed while taking a flight test is 1ms

F.Cena

Oct 29, 2008, 10:10 AM

I viewed the pictures earlier, but now the link does not work. Did you all scare him away with talk of the clone??

Bob

The link is renewed. :cool:

Also more pictures uploaded.

PDX Slope Pilot

Oct 29, 2008, 10:18 AM

That flew quite nicely in the light lift conditions.... How much US $ for this model?

jrbike

Oct 29, 2008, 12:52 PM

I think we're all feeling kind of teased by this. I like the build quality (from what I can see). Nice static shots and video shows good light lift capability. But how much will it cost me (and how much to have it shipped to the U.S.)????

seerspaz

Oct 29, 2008, 01:41 PM

F.Cena

Oct 30, 2008, 08:25 AM

More Questions:

And what does is the all up weight when ready to fly?
What are the numbers for span, length, etc.?
How many are available or what is the wait time?
What Taiwan importers are selling them? Do you have link or other information?

And of course, Price!! :D

Wingspan: 3.10 meters
Airfoil: RG15 mod
Overall Length: 1.40 meters
Weight Empty: 60 ounces (+/-)
Weight All Up: 87 ounces (+26 oz ballast)
Ctrl Surfaces: Ail/Flap/Rud/Elev (V-tail)

We have 8 units in stock right now. So how long you wait pretty much depends on how soon you pay :D .

PM you the rest.

tiju000

Oct 30, 2008, 08:47 AM

What about price ?

Crashaholic

Oct 30, 2008, 09:58 AM

PM me the price as well. Thanks.

pmccleave

Oct 30, 2008, 11:20 AM

Please add me to the list of guys wanting to be pm'd a price.

Thanks,

Pat

maguro

Oct 30, 2008, 11:32 AM

I'd like a price and full details.

fooesboy

Oct 30, 2008, 11:47 AM

I think that the price should be open for all to see, not sent to people on an seprate basis.

F.Cena

Oct 30, 2008, 12:00 PM

I think that the price should be open for all to see, not sent to people on an seprate basis.

Sorry for the inconvenience caused. Just buyers are from different locations, need to take that into account.

mgroves

Oct 30, 2008, 12:16 PM

please pm me the pricing too if you please

F.Cena

Oct 30, 2008, 12:28 PM

please pm me the pricing too if you please

Sorry. Could you give me your email address please? I've sent too many private messages today and this forum has a limit for that. :D

smurf

Oct 30, 2008, 12:41 PM

Sorry for the inconvenience caused. Just buyers are from different locations, need to take that into account.

Sounds fishy to me.
You should post the price and the calculation can be done on the shipping.

dawg

Oct 30, 2008, 12:58 PM

Sorry for the inconvenience caused. Just buyers are from different locations, need to take that into account.

Does this mean rich Americans pay more than people form poor countries?

I live in a poor farming village in Mexico and have a very large family, how much is my price? (Lets get a gray market to the US going guys :p )

F.Cena

Oct 30, 2008, 01:07 PM

Does this mean rich Americans pay more than people form poor countries?

I live in a poor farming village in Mexico and have a very large family, how much is my price? (Lets get a gray market to the US going guys :p )

You may have to prove that you live in a poor farming village in Mexico and have a very large family first :p

Dbox

Oct 30, 2008, 01:22 PM

You may have to prove that you live in a poor farming village in Mexico and have a very large family first :p

Have You ever seen a small Mexican family :confused: :D
Yuri.

pcdii

Oct 30, 2008, 01:31 PM

Are Europeans just charging us too much? If it is this inexpensive to make a good airframe what is next?

Phil

wakumann

Oct 30, 2008, 02:16 PM

with all digitals built by a pro for less than it will take (most likely)

Not likely, only if Dig servos are at ~$130 a pop.

Cheers
Thomas

pcdii

Oct 30, 2008, 03:04 PM

I'll Take one!

F.Cena

Oct 31, 2008, 10:50 AM

Guys, for your information, we're going to provide F3B in 2 to 3 months.

fooesboy

Oct 31, 2008, 02:30 PM

Are the wings painted or covered with a film? The fuse looks painted. is it painted in the mold with a gelcoat or after?

Scott Seidler

Oct 31, 2008, 09:11 PM

Is anyone around the new jersey area interested in getting one of these??
Contact me if you do..

Scott

F.Cena

Oct 31, 2008, 10:44 PM

Are the wings painted or covered with a film? The fuse looks painted. is it painted in the mold with a gelcoat or after?

All our planes are painted in the mold with a gelcoat. We call it inner painting, literally translated from Chinese :D

Scott Seidler

Nov 01, 2008, 11:18 AM

Folks -- I am putting an order in shortly for one of these. I can ship 4 more in the same box so shipping would be 1/5 for those who wish to have me bring them in. Contact me for a total of your choice of Full Glass (why?), Carbon D-Box, or full carbon builds. Each will have a full ballast set and plane bags (wings, tail, fuse) included.
Unless you plan on picking up in NJ - or within a reasonable driving distance from me - expect you will still have domestic shipping costs. I will be happy to re-box and ship at cost.
PM me - or email me - I can give you pricing but final price will be based on whether we can get 4 more planes shipped. Color choice is yours....

I will need prepayment prior to the order going in (as i have to pre-pay for them as well)

-Scott

albysurfin

Nov 01, 2008, 02:12 PM

Please PM me the pricing...............

Diggs

Nov 01, 2008, 10:20 PM

I would like a PM for the price also.

Diggs

Scott Seidler

Nov 01, 2008, 10:28 PM

I would like a PM for the price also.

Diggs

PM Sent.....
-S

DanielPip

Nov 02, 2008, 08:08 AM

I'll bite, send me a PM on price. I can pick it up in person, upstate(not too far from NYC) NY.

IRONMIKEII

Nov 02, 2008, 08:10 AM

Scott,

PM sent requesting pricing. I'm in NJ so pick up will be easy.

snowfly56

Nov 02, 2008, 08:20 AM

I'm in upstate new york friends with danielpip also interested!

cvanscho

Nov 02, 2008, 08:59 AM

What a strange thread. Why all the secrecy :confused: ?

cycle1racing

Nov 02, 2008, 09:43 AM

They are afraid the goverment will stop subsidizing their business...lol

Scott Seidler

Nov 02, 2008, 09:47 AM

Pm's coming -- anyone else wnat pricing PM me - its easier!

-Scott

Scott Seidler

Nov 02, 2008, 09:54 AM

What a strange thread. Why all the secrecy :confused: ?

Well - Its not my thread so Im not posting the costs.. But anyone who wants the pricing Ill send it to them - or PM F.CENA and he will also send them to you.............
Im trying to get a decent size order together to save on the shipping - shipping from China is ALOT...

-Scott

PDX Slope Pilot

Nov 02, 2008, 10:45 AM

I am curious about a few things. F.Cena, is your company also producing the Predator F3F we just saw emerge on the market? It incorporated many improvements based on suggestions from fliers across the world. If so, did those improvement go into this model?

Your price is certainly tempting but it would be nice to know more about the R&D and testing that went into this model. Take this in the proper light...I'm sure no one, including myself, wants to be a part of your R&D team. :)

PDX

F.Cena

Nov 02, 2008, 11:50 AM

PDX Slope Pilot

Nov 02, 2008, 12:20 PM

Thanks Jason. Your price is certainly unreal in the positive sense. If I didn't have a small stable of euro plastic fantastic I would move on one. Good luck and I'll be looking for that review.

PDX

Scott Seidler

Nov 02, 2008, 08:16 PM

Guys - here are some of the standard color patterns.
I still have room for planes......... Cmon step up!!!

-Scott

Mrboot0

Nov 02, 2008, 08:26 PM

PM sent

mgroves

Nov 03, 2008, 09:44 AM

I'm not all up todate on all the FAI nomenclature..F3B or F3F....Is this plane from F. Cena a sloper or thermal duration?

trend.ab

Nov 03, 2008, 09:59 AM

Sloper

Scott Seidler

Nov 03, 2008, 10:59 AM

F3F is slope racing -- F3B is like our TD but has 2 other tasks.. If your flying flat land an F3B is a better ship. but Im gonna fly it TD anyway!
-Scott

SmokinJoe101

Nov 03, 2008, 11:05 AM

F3F is slope racing -- F3B is like our TD but has 2 other tasks.. If your flying flat land an F3B is a better ship. but Im gonna fly it TD anyway!
-Scott

Yea, Just like TD :eek:

sj

Scott Seidler

Nov 03, 2008, 11:12 AM

Ok So it will fly a litttttle bit faster -- and Ill need ALOT more camber - but hey! WHAT A DEAL!!!!
( I know Trend will tell me Im nuts!)
-S

F.Cena

Nov 04, 2008, 12:38 AM

Empty weight of three versions:

Full carbon: 1710g（double carbon spars）60oz
1950g（double steel spars） 68oz
D-BOX: 1670g（double carbon spars） 59oz
1910g（double steel spars） 67oz
Glass fabric: 1610g（double carbon spars） 57oz
1850g（double steel spars） 65oz

Error: +-50g

Scott Seidler

Nov 04, 2008, 05:58 AM

F.Cena,
Does empty weight include the carbon V-Tail rods and other "accessories" that go in the plane. In other words everything but the servos, receiver, battery, wiring?
-S

Gavin Trussell

Nov 04, 2008, 06:13 AM

F.cena will they take a full winch launch ,and are the wings you are standing on the carbon ones

Scott Seidler

Nov 04, 2008, 06:25 AM

F.cena will they take a full winch launch ,and are the wings you are standing on the carbon ones
What he said :P

F.Cena

Nov 04, 2008, 06:35 AM

F.cena will they take a full winch launch ,and are the wings you are standing on the carbon ones

yes they can take full winch launch. The guy was standing on a Dbox

mgroves

Nov 04, 2008, 05:00 PM

Maybe i missed it....are these in stock ready for shipment or build to order? If build to order what is lead-time?

maguro

Nov 04, 2008, 05:07 PM

What's the chance of getting one modified as a motor glider, or do you already have plans for one?

Scott Seidler

Nov 04, 2008, 06:32 PM

Maybe i missed it....are these in stock ready for shipment or build to order? If build to order what is lead-time?
last time I asked (yesterday) they had two d-box and 3 fiberglass planes left ..... about a week lead time on new builds.
-s

Scott Seidler

Nov 04, 2008, 09:51 PM

OK GUYS!!!
Lets go!

Everyone is interested - so far I have ONE PERSON WITH THE BALLS ENOUGH TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE!!!

Im dying to get this moving --

Who wants one??? You know you want one... cmon - over here - just like candy

Scott Seidler

Nov 05, 2008, 08:19 AM

OK - - to end any confusion I started a group buy thread for those interested.
Includes pricing and pics too..
Its located here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948928
-Scott

Soarhead00

Nov 05, 2008, 08:43 AM

Please include me on the distribution of the price list.
Thanks
Bob

F.Cena

Nov 05, 2008, 02:01 PM

Please be advised, we will terminate our current price range shortly. Please refer to my announcement made on page one of this thread. Thanks.

F.Cena

Nov 05, 2008, 02:04 PM

What's the chance of getting one modified as a motor glider, or do you already have plans for one?

Sorry we have no plan to make motor glider at this stage. But you can buy an extra fuse to make it yourself.

jml724

Nov 05, 2008, 05:45 PM

please PM me on the price
thanks
JML

BARNESJONR

Nov 06, 2008, 09:03 AM

I would probably be interested but the whole PM the Price thing is ridiculous IMHO.

You'd get more response by eliminating that part.

F.Cena

Nov 06, 2008, 09:37 AM

I would probably be interested but the whole PM the Price thing is ridiculous IMHO.

You'd get more response by eliminating that part.

We will, soon.

km2579

Nov 15, 2008, 06:40 AM

Thanks for creating a great quality plane at a great price. F.Cena your doing an amazing job. I can't wait for new and exciting models.
To all those thinking of getting one they have been more than helpful with me.
A ++ :)

F.Cena

Nov 16, 2008, 05:31 AM

F.Cena

Nov 16, 2008, 05:34 AM

See prices on the first page. More pics about production and newly produced planes to be updated soon.

km2579

Nov 16, 2008, 08:10 AM

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gYGRlolXrFA&eurl=http://www.henryf3f.com/foro/index.php?topic=4.msg4

Glass version single spar

km2579

Nov 16, 2008, 08:12 AM

Mine should arrive this week and I will put it through it's paces.

Ezza is going to fly it also and give some feedback. :D

F.Cena

Nov 19, 2008, 02:38 AM

:) :) :)

Indarotor

Nov 19, 2008, 04:19 AM

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prondel

Dec 10, 2008, 02:01 AM

Hi All,

I'm discovering this thread and I'm sorry to say that the Vento is an exact copy of the blade from X-Models !

Just have a look at the short review which is on planet-soaring.com:

http://pierre.rondel.free.fr/images2/blade2.5/index.htm

So ?

What is your opinion now ?

Pierre

Scott Seidler

Dec 10, 2008, 05:32 AM

My opinion is........................
Wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here it comes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like it!

-S

Gavin Trussell

Dec 10, 2008, 08:25 AM

I cant read french but blade doesnt have double wing joiner rods ,So i guess it cant be an exact copy , How about this, I will put a sticker on mine to make it different from everyone elses.
I can feel mine being built as we speak SWEET

prondel

Dec 10, 2008, 09:50 AM

diego84

Dec 10, 2008, 08:44 PM

are still available???

SlopeFlyer33

Dec 11, 2008, 01:20 PM

I understand they're negotiating with an SF Bay Area F3F designer to build other
products. I believe one of them won the Davenport MOM a few years back.

Gavin Trussell

Dec 11, 2008, 02:29 PM

Toy

FireFlyer

Dec 13, 2008, 10:19 AM

You are right, changing a clevise make the plane different :p !!!

Since my first post, I learned that some people running this company are coming from zoom model, which explain lots of things ...

Then of course, it's up to each of us to decide if buying a copy is well or not, until you loose your job because somebody else copied what you produce and selling it half the price, then we will rediscuss :cool: ...

Regards,

Pierre

Well my 2 cents,

I don't recall mention of a clevis being a primary difference...I think it was the DOUBLE not single wing joiner system.

As for it being built at half price.... The Chinese lead the way in Six Sigma and Lean manufacturing processes and if they can build something for less of equal or similar product value....well then good for them and the economy as well. So, another consideration is this: By them selling their product for less to increase product volume sales (which allows for lower pricing) and bump their profit margins up through increased sales is that all that bad? I don't think so. So ask yourself this...why is it that your price is about 2 times as much? Similar materials should be about the same cost to either company. Labor rates...well that depends on where one lives.

Not knowing if your products are patented or not...You may have a very legit argument. As for us consumers it is hard at times to tell one plane from the next as there are so many out there. If you see a new product and it is appealing to you what do you do? You think about it for a while and decide to purchase it or not. Who really thinks about or wants to spend lots of time researching who may have designed it first and/or if it is a clone or not?

Anyway enough from me.

Happy flying and Holidays to All!
FF