Speed or Sail

[squirrel4]

Hi i am 16 and i want a change of a new hobby and i thought i will try boats as i like them alot and i need to make my mind up as in what kind of to get Speed or sail

[drakonis]

depends what you want to do. go fast really easy or go slow and learn some skill. it takes some skill to sail but anybody can go fast. check out amya for local sailing clubs and look online for the go fast clubs and check out each. but dont say anything about going fast to the sail guys or sail to the go fast guys. check out both and see what you might like better. the sail guys are more likely to let you try a boat to see if you like it. the fast boats would not likely let you drive a boat untill you have your own. faster boats are more likely to get damage if you crash it. a sail boat will stay out of trouble easier. see what you like and go from there. me personally i have done both and keep going back to sail boats. good luck!

[squirrel4]

I dont think The Cornwall Plymouth has aney clubs :(

[Ironman929]

Look around to see what you can do. Can you run a powerboat(gas/eletric) on a lake somewhere? Can you do this without getting the neibours mad? Is your local pond deep enough for a sailboat's keel? What are others running?

You can always get a small electric boat for cheap and then go from there. If you do, don't buy a ready made one. get a kit that you can learn to build.

[squirrel4]

Well i have a place i can go but its not a pond its the river But i am sure i can find a pond or somethin

[420TEE]

Rivers have currents and dead or upside down boats can disappear if you don't have some way to retrieve them.

[HoaRC]

look on youtube and see what you like

but generally,

speed: ten minute runtime, more speed=more $, but WOWs the crowd
sail: runs all day, high initial cost ($500-600 for an RC Laser sailboat), sit and relax

[patmat2350]

I dont think The Cornwall Plymouth has aney clubs :(

Cornwall Plymouth as in the UK? If there are no boats or boat clubs in Plymouth, then we must be into the next Ice Age!
Ask about at the forum at http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/

[tigerbay]

Speed or Sail?

I prefer sail, but when the wind is low it is frustrating, but requires more skill to get the boat to go. And a set of battereis will last 8-9 hours. Ordinary battereis are OK, you will need to allow extra money for a Sail Servo, unless you are thinking of a footy (12") class boat. s bigger sails need a lot of pulling in.

Many young people like speed, and it can be a lot of fun. I would say if you choose speed, go fast electric. The petrol boats are more expesive and many areas you cannot use them because of noise or environment. Fast electric is popular and you can buy a cheap boat and even put in bigger motors. A cheap fun starter boat is the Club 500, they are a real laugh. However the fast electrics will only give you 10-20 mins out of a set of batterries. So allow for extra battereis and charger in the cost. Some battereis are Lithium Polymer, very light, expensive, and need a special charger. But the fast boats must be very light to get up and plane across the water.

As with most things in life. Cheaper is not better. Bigger is better. Bigger boats sail better on the water. With a few exception, e.g. the Club 500.

[Prins Willem]

Sailing and FE each have positive aspects but are polar opposites. If you want to race each will give you the opportunity and each can be intense (but in different ways). You have to choose which suits your personality. Note, I said FE because many scale clubs don't allow fuel engines due to noise, safety, and site regulations. Fast electric is clean, safer, and less expensive in the long run. FE boats can achieve some high speeds. I believe the record is in excess of 160 mph currently.

If you are in or near Plymouth England

Sailing:
http://www.plymouthmbc.webeden.co.uk/

Scale
http://beehive.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/default.asp?WCI=SiteHome&ID=8582&PageID=46233

[Hunty1]

Yeah that sound cool the top link i just live over the sea witch is easy t cycle to witch i will have to email them ......I think i made my mind up on gettin a sail

[squirrel4]

Sorry that was my old account

[Prins Willem]

Now the fun begins. There are ALLOT of choices in sailboats. If you want to start racing you will have to find out what classes of boats are being raced in your area. if you just want to sail around the pond you can choose most any boat. Depending on the prevailing weather in your area you might get by with a smaller model but if you normally experience strong or gusty winds you may opt to go larger. Also take into account transporting the model. If you have to transport it unrigged look for one with easy setup. Being 16 it will be a few years before you can choose a vehicle to suit your hobby (like most of the rest of us do). If you will be using public transportation the model will have to be cased so pick one you can make a box for that will be easy to carry.

working out details like this beforehand will prevent headaches and disappointment later on. Keep us posted.

[squirrel4]

There is a Yacht in my local hobby shop for £40 and it looks kool to mod and do stuff

[pompebled]

There is a Yacht in my local hobby shop for £40 and it looks kool to mod and do stuff
Which yacht would that be?
Got a link?

Regards, Jan.

[squirrel4]

http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/429_1_15414.html

Looks kinda kool

[squirrel4]

I like the other sail boats that have no mast its like the tug boat type of things

[HoaRC]

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/micmagic.htm

[squirrel4]

I like the sail boats the onse like orgiginal boats the ones have no masts

[HoaRC]

I like the sail boats the onse like orgiginal boats the ones have no masts

but these don't sail that well.. :(

[squirrel4]

My Price range is not that much eather and im not in the US im in the UK I kinda like the scale boats aswell but tehre dear

[johnmca72]

depends what you want to do. go fast really easy or go slow and learn some skill.There are lots more options than just fast vs. sailboats:

1. Scale modeling. Many people enjoy building & attention-to-detail. Not all finely-detailed scale models just sit on shelves; many go out & sail around under R/C power. There's an incredible variety of subjects on the water, from runabouts to fishermen, up to the largest tankers & container ships. Tugboats are especially popular. In some areas there are clubs that get together regularly to sail around, & even have piloting competitions.

2. Combat. Less detail-oriented (at least, as far as looks are concerned), there are people who actually arm their ships, then get together & fight them against each other.

it takes some skill to sail but anybody can go fast.I'd dispute that. A big part of going fast, for many people, is to constantly push the envelope & go faster. It can suck up a lot of time, effort, & money, just to go a little faster, once you get to a certain point. Building for optimum speed can be a huge challenge, that not everybody is up to. Not to mention, it takes a lot of skill just to keep certain "go fast" boats upright, on the water, & under control. For many people it's not enough to just go faster; you want to be fastest, & there can only ever be 1 of those (certainly not "anybody").

I'd recommend taking stock of your own interests, to see whether you like to take the time & effort to build things yourself, or if you want to run them & aren't as interested in the building. Also, look around your area & see what others are doing. It can add a lot of fun, if there are others around who are into the same thing.

JM

[HoaRC]

There are lots more options than just fast vs. sailboats:

1. Scale modeling. Many people enjoy building & attention-to-detail. Not all finely-detailed scale models just sit on shelves; many go out & sail around under R/C power. There's an incredible variety of subjects on the water, from runabouts to fishermen, up to the largest tankers & container ships. Tugboats are especially popular. In some areas there are clubs that get together regularly to sail around, & even have piloting competitions.

2. Combat. Less detail-oriented (at least, as far as looks are concerned), there are people who actually arm their ships, then get together & fight them against each other.

I'd dispute that. A big part of going fast, for many people, is to constantly push the envelope & go faster. It can suck up a lot of time, effort, & money, just to go a little faster, once you get to a certain point. Building for optimum speed can be a huge challenge, that not everybody is up to. Not to mention, it takes a lot of skill just to keep certain "go fast" boats upright, on the water, & under control. For many people it's not enough to just go faster; you want to be fastest, & there can only ever be 1 of those (certainly not "anybody").

I'd recommend taking stock of your own interests, to see whether you like to take the time & effort to build things yourself, or if you want to run them & aren't as interested in the building. Also, look around your area & see what others are doing. It can add a lot of fun, if there are others around who are into the same thing.

JM

Anybody interested in airsoft combat sailboats? :D

[mfr02]

For a UK dweller, low cost, think Glynn Guest plans. These are almost all intended for simple building at low cost from materials easily available. The fast electrics, built according to plan, will be fast. His scale boats can be made to look very good with care and attention rather than a lot of expense. The low cost is because you make parts, thus becoming a craftsman, rather than just buying and placing ornaments like an interior decorator.
For low cost sailboats look at the free plans that appear in model boat magazines from time to time. Browsing the magazine racks in W H Smiths helps.

[squirrel4]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/huntye/boat-main1.jpg

This is like a boat i want that dosant go that fast and just sails smoothy in the water

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/huntye/boat-main1.jpg

This is like a boat i want that dosant go that fast and just sails smoothy in the water

That's a Robbe kit, you pick that up locally for about £152.

http://www.westbourne-model.co.uk/Robbe-Model-Boats.htm

[squirrel4]

I just found out this hobby is a kinda dear one for me

[mfr02]

If you are down on money, you avoid expensive kits. Look at self building from magazine plans. Its just a case of browsing your local town centre newsagent until one that you like comes along. Usually they are a shaped box (pointed at one end, blunt at the other) buildable from low cost materials, usually fairly simple, and, with the magazine, with a pretty full set of instructions.
With a kit like the Robbe one you like the look of, you will need to add in the cost of making it go as well.

[Prins Willem]

Another way to start in is to contact local clubs and see if any members want to unload an old model or kit. Flea markets, yard/garage sales, and estate sales are also possible sources for old models and kits.

[squirrel4]

Yeah the local club doasnt run no more and i found out we dont have ponds but i have a sea line next to me and that isant rough seas if i dont go in to far

[LtDoc]

squirrel4,
It isn't really a matter of if you 'can have' a boat or not, it's more a matter of how much trouble will having a boat be. If you are willing to go to the trouble of having a model boat in terms of finding a place to sail it, or being careful when sailing it in the sea (or when not to sail it in the sea), I don't see why you can't do so.
This hobby can get quite expensive. A lot of that expense can be lessened by building rather than buying, but unfortunately, not all of it. That's typically true of any hobby, not just model boats/planes/cars. You might also find that the building is as much fun as the sailing, if not more so at times :).
You might also do a little looking around for those ex-club members, no telling what you might find...
- 'Doc

[squirrel4]

yeah i know when not to sail in bad water And whe it comes to my b day i will have a price range what i have got to spend on a boat

[Greg_Vincent]

A very fine entry level sailboat is the Megatech Nirvana II. Retail in the US is around $200.

[squirrel4]

I am in the UK and i doubt to think how much postage will be to ship to the UK i ainbt loookin for a sail sail boat no more if u look at my 1st or 2nd tehre is a picture of what boat i am lookin for not the same as the pic but the same type of deck

[woodybob]

Red Bank Models have some nice boats, http://quantrum.co.uk/redbankmodels/bboatsb-bscale-c-61_65.html (http://quantrum.co.uk/redbankmodels/bboatsb-bscale-c-61_65.html)

[squirrel4]

Woodybob u have just made my night by proving there is cheap model boats around and there awsome