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aksydnes
Oct 08, 2008, 11:41 PM
Hi,

New to rc planes but learning and loving. I have been reading quite a bit on this site and decided I want to try my hand at scratch built planes. I found an Ebay store that sold many plans and at a fair price, but I am curious if anyone has bought from here or knows what kind of quality I am looking at. Is this another case of "what you pay for is what you get"? Or is this possibly an alright deal. Thanks in advance.

Eric

http://stores.ebay.com/u-s-wing_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZ1QQfsubZQ2d33QQftidZ2QQtZkm

hogflyer
Oct 09, 2008, 10:29 AM
Eric,

There have been long debates about guys like this. Basically what he is doing is taking somebody else’s plane and, copying it and selling it. One thing to consider is you’ll purchase a PDF file of the plan and then you have to have it printed out which can cost almost as much money as just purchasing it from the original source. Not if it’s a plan for a plane that has been out of production for a while (like Berkeley kits), then you’re sources are more limited. But if you start asking around the forums you’d be surprised what other modelers have stashed away and will have copied and mail to you at the cost of copying and mailing.

There are plenty of sources of free plans out on the internet posted by modelers who just enjoy the hobby and put them out there for others to enjoy. You can also search the plans sections of Model Airplane News, RCM, and other plans companies like Nick Ziroil and many more. Just to some searching and ask questions. Give us an idea what you are look for and we’ll be able to help guide you too.

IMO, If you want to scratch build, go the original source of the plan and purchase it from them. They are the ones who put the effort/money into the design/development of the plane so they should be the ones being rewarded for it, not some hack on the famous auction site that just copies some bodies plan to make a quick buck.

Hogflyer

aksydnes
Oct 09, 2008, 01:18 PM
Thank you for the reply. What I am basically looking for (and this may be asking a lot), is an easier plane first plane to build with no experience. I liked the scratch built with instructions for my first build. From what I have read there are many first time plans, so on and so forth, but I had never seen plans with instruction booklet. I know I may be biting off more than I can chew but as my wife reminds me, I have a habit of starting that way and always will. Thanks again for the reply and in advance for any further replies. I will not be able to respond until tomorrow for any further questions/comments as I have duty this evening.

Eric

hogflyer
Oct 09, 2008, 03:13 PM
There is an easy to build trainer over in the RCU 1/2A forum designed by Bipe Flyer and it has a very good reputation: Building and Flying the 1/2A LST Trainer (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2301186/tm.htm). There is a long build thread with lots of good comments/suggestions by some very experienced flyers, some of whom visit this forum also. The plans are free, and there are full size rib templates. Worth spending the time reading through the thread.

A couple of other sites with free plans are:

Patrick Ulmer's website (http://www.ulmer-rc.com/dotnetnuke/default.aspx)

Dave Fritzke’s website: (http://my.pclink.com/~dfritzke/)

There are more sites with free plans, so just do an internet search.

Spend the time to look in the scratch building section of the forums and you’ll see links for them.

Hogflyer

Meyer56013
Oct 09, 2008, 07:09 PM
Buy yourself a kit like the mini-telemaster for your first build, then build a second one from the plan This will give you a good education in scratch building.
Gary

aksydnes
Oct 10, 2008, 10:32 PM
Thanks for all the help. Bought some of the balsa today for the LST and will check out the telemaster. Thanks again.

Eric

Murocflyer
Oct 11, 2008, 08:09 AM
Buy yourself a kit like the mini-telemaster for your first build, then build a second one from the plan This will give you a good education in scratch building.
Gary

That is the same advice I like to give also. Find a plane(kit) that you like and build it first. This will teach you a lot about RC plane design and get you used to working with balsa, glues, and covering. It will also teach you what works and what doesn't. Plus you get the benefit of a well designed plane and kit. Once you get a feel for building, then you can start experimenting with scratchbuilt designs. The more you do, the more you'll learn.

Good luck.

Frank