My turn

[DLM]

I was just reading on OSE about rx power and a lightbulb went off! I
never gave it a thought but in my group of rc boats, if i use the
servos for turning, the propulsion suffers. I use a 9 volt flat
battery but of lately, i use 4 AA good batteries that i check for
voltage each time out and get over 6 volts, which is good. Now i wonder
if certain servos require more juice than others. I read on servo box,
4.8/6.0v which gives faster action at 6v but now i ? the propulsion
letdown when i start turning the boat and use rx separate power supply.
Oh yes, THANKS! have a good day!


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[Jim]

digital servos draw MUCH more amperage than standard analog servos.

"DLM" <DLM.3grbva@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
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> I was just reading on OSE about rx power and a lightbulb went off! I
> never gave it a thought but in my group of rc boats, if i use the
> servos for turning, the propulsion suffers. I use a 9 volt flat
> battery but of lately, i use 4 AA good batteries that i check for
> voltage each time out and get over 6 volts, which is good. Now i wonder
> if certain servos require more juice than others. I read on servo box,
> 4.8/6.0v which gives faster action at 6v but now i ? the propulsion
> letdown when i start turning the boat and use rx separate power supply.
> Oh yes, THANKS! have a good day!
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[DLM]

Jim, thanks for the reply. I'm retiring from forums cause i get banned
due to being real honest and do not give out bad info which others
think is bad info and they complain i one thing leads to another and
etc. I wish you luck! Thanks for having me.


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[Jim]

yep, problem with the forums is everyone is an expert. Unfortunately, the
one who speaks the loudest and gives the most advice is normally the most
clueless of all. Those of us with real knowledge just remain silent so as
not to be bashed. So many of the forums have turned into dumbies training
idiots.


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> Jim, thanks for the reply. I'm retiring from forums cause i get banned
> due to being real honest and do not give out bad info which others
> think is bad info and they complain i one thing leads to another and
> etc. I wish you luck! Thanks for having me.
>
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True, to a point. As a "newbie", I've spent some time lurking. It doesn't
take long to figure out who the knowledgeable people are. I hope you will
shrug off the bashing and continue to share your experience. When you live
in a small town, forums can be your only source of good information.

Randy

"Jim" <jim@slaughter.org> wrote in message
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> yep, problem with the forums is everyone is an expert. Unfortunately, the
> one who speaks the loudest and gives the most advice is normally the most
> clueless of all. Those of us with real knowledge just remain silent so as
> not to be bashed. So many of the forums have turned into dumbies training
> idiots.
>
>
> "DLM" <DLM.3gt6i0@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Jim, thanks for the reply. I'm retiring from forums cause i get banned
>> due to being real honest and do not give out bad info which others
>> think is bad info and they complain i one thing leads to another and
>> etc. I wish you luck! Thanks for having me.
>>
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[DLM]

Ok, i talked to Andy Kunz of former builder and owner of Rc-hydros escs.
Andy said that 9 volt batteries have a tendency to drop off fast in
voltage which gives RXS ( receivers ) a headache. Andy has said 9 volts
is not the way to go. Either 4 AA's or rx power pack of 6 volts. I
checked around for the rx packs but their size were to big for my size
boats. I saddle packed the 4 AA's with a Du-Pro switch which allowed me
to place each 2 piece AA with ease. The already 5 cell packs give a 6
amp total as do 4 AA's at 1.5ams each. Food for thought; some RX's
don't like 9 volts as do some servos. Now i find some analog servos
turn easier than others and thats the ones i go for. Now i'm in the
process of using micro Deans plugs for the rx wiring so i can unplug
the 4 AA's and use in other boats. I already do this with rx and
antenna and just use 1 rx and etc. Jim was right on digital servos plus
the price tag. I use JR. equipment except i use Fub. 3003 servos which
have never failed. Make sure antenna is at least 19" long. Hope this
help explain my first posting .


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[deestingray]

DLM, a question about the RX power. Have you an opinion on using lipo
power to keep the rx power up? I have heard/seen this done with
apparently no problems however I did read something on RRR recently
that suggested otherwise.
I understand that most RX's aren't actually rated above 6V but will
take the extra voltage.

Off topic, I kind of know what you and Jim are talking about RE:
knowitalls.....
I hope I do not come across as one on this or any other forum that I
look at/post in. Basically to me, it is the sharing of info that I
know works and I will only share if I am 100% in what I am talking
about. I definitely agree with the comment of the more posts, the less
they know sort of thing, I reckon it is a post count comp in most cases
to try to get a good rep on a particular forum.

Sorry to see experienced people leave the cyber world. The way I got
to where I am in my boating has been because of good experienced
comments and learning the hard way.


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[DLM]

Mr. Des!; your one of the best posters along with Paul of your country.
I tried a No Step One yesterday on 4 AA's in saddle packs and ran
perfect. I started with voltage of 6.07 and when done has 5.95 voltage
on a Fub. 3001 servo. I used Deans micro plugs so i could take the 4
AA's out and leave the rest of the Du-pro switch in place. Now as far
as lipo rx power, the size of the lipo rx power is to long at 1.44mm
and 7.4 lipo is too much juice. Ok, when lipos are charged; the full
charge will be close to 8.44 volts which is too much juice for the rx.
I think the answer is to have the correct height of antenna which the
manufacturer recommends. This way, saves on the batteries and that part
of the system. Hump pack packs to me would be top heavy. Now alot
depends on location for rx power too. The best antennas were piano wire
and silver solder with 16 guage wire soldered to piano wire and used
spade clips. I used shrink for tip of piano wire so no eyes got poked
out. I just covered the wire with 1/8" plastic tube. Have a good day.
Reason i posted was , your one person who deserves an answer and your
honest on your answers. Take care.


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[John]

I switched over to running 7.4 volt Lipo RX packs about two Months ago
on all my boats. I run a regulator between the pack and the RX so it
is only fed 6volts. So far it has been working great.


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[deestingray]

Thanks for those insightful answers. I am on a fence at the moment on
what to run. As some of you might be aware, I stay away from the
internal combustion type boats for a world of electricity and have
tried both ways of powering up.
My biggest problem was on the receiver connection to the battery, for
some reason, I could never keep a reliable connection and often had
stoppages in the middle of the lake. So stopping short of soldering a
wire and connector on the receiver I gave up and went to a BEC and love
it but now I have the issue of less ballast and brushless power seems to
warrant extra weight to keep the boat on the water.......one of those
push pull things I guess...

Off topic again, DLM thanks for those kind words. I wasn't fishing at
all and am a bit humbled that somebody takes the time to read what I
have written and agree with it. The hobby can greatly benefit from
good clean opinions and I also believe, good clean debates. It is a
shame to see experience walk out the door anywhere you are.


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[DLM]

First, a regulator for the lipo is perfect answer for voltage,
THANKS!--------Mr. DES; i use a balloon which cover the rx and keeps
connections in place. I got in the habit of checking for fraid wires
and like to give a little tug just to make sure. I still like the 9
volt battery and weighs less than 4 AA's and will check today on a
regulator. I have used the same rx for over ten years, i just give it a
shot of Corrosion-X and a shot with hair dryer and away i go. I went out
again yesterday and the 4 AA's did there job. They dropped from 5.95 to
5.82 volts, so i can't complain. People, have a good weekend and thanks
for the regulator tip!----- Put 1 or 2 AA's in boat with velcro and
place where needed. You can always remove them.


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[kneedeep]

Jim" <jim@slaughter.org> wrote in message
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> yep, problem with the forums is everyone is an expert. Unfortunately,
the
> one who speaks the loudest and gives the most advice is normally the
most
> clueless of all. Those of us with real knowledge just remain silent
so as
> not to be bashed. So many of the forums have turned into dumbies
training
> idiots.
>
>
> "DLM" <DLM.3gt6i0@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
> newsLM.3gt6i0@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au...

woohoo!!! someones woken up and smelt the coffee!!
its been a long time since ive even looked at this site for this very
reason
cheers
"no longer interested" kneedeep


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[DLM]

I got a notice, i'm being censored on my postings. Good - bye! Take my
name off your membership.


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[DLM]

What the same hill are you talking about? I posted a message and nothing
was wrong in my message at all and i got censored. What are you talking
about as it was intended to be used. News, i wasn't even using the
news, i was posting. Yes, i'm mad and i did nothing what so ever. I
have a reason and i would like an answer and a apology from this site.
When i found out i got censored, i deleted my postings, that's what a
normal person does when they just got dumped on!


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[John]

There are list of a few words that spammers use frequently to post spam
on this forum that are automaticlly censored. This is done
automaticlly by the forum software, it's nothing personal. So if you
have a word that has been censored, which will show as ***** then
perhaps chose another word.

There is also another measure that detects another list of words that
the spammers use. If a post has those words then the whole post is put
into the moderation queue. Again, this is done automaticlly and is
nothing personal. If the post is not spam, then the moderators will
approve it and it will appear (as I have done with your post).

These measures have been put in place to keep the posts in this forum
about model boats and free of spam posts. Sometimes genuine posts get
caught in the filters, but that is better than letting any of the spam
through.

To give you an indication, there are currently more spam threads that
have been moved to a hidden area than there are real posts in the
General forum.


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[DLM]

I typed a message that kneedeep has an opinion like everyone else and is
entitled to say so. Now when i got done talking about boating,; a
message said i was censored and my posting must be approved. I never
been sensored on this site and i could find a reason to get censored
now. There was nothing derogatory in what i typed. Water over the dam
now and damage has been done. Good-bye and good luck! Remove DLM from
membership, thank you, no replies.--- I'm not thinskinned but a few
have to ruin things for other people.


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[John]

Sigh... I guess you didn't even read my post explaining how it works?

Anyway, best of luck DLM, you are welcome back should you choose to
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[Black Dragon]

DLM wrote:

> What the same hill are you talking about? I posted a message and nothing
> was wrong in my message at all and i got censored. What are you talking
> about as it was intended to be used. News, i wasn't even using the
> news, i was posting. Yes, i'm mad and i did nothing what so ever. I
> have a reason and i would like an answer and a apology from this site.
> When i found out i got censored, i deleted my postings, that's what a
> normal person does when they just got dumped on!

"This is not a list. This is not a board. This is not
some web page forum with rules and moderators. This is
USENET. The wild west of online communication. Where
trolls and flames roam rampant. Where you keep your
asbestos underpants handy if you lack wit (or have an
ego that greatly exceeds your actual abilities).
If you don't like it, feel free to run back to the
comfortable safety of moderated web forums and mailing
lists where everyone lives in enforced peace and harmony
in the land of Nod."
-Cichlidiot

There are many way to read this NEWSGROUP, the web forum your reading it
from now being the worst of them. This isn't a whole lot better from the
user interface perspective but it will assure you will not ever get
censored. It's Google Groups interface to rec.models.rc.water on Usenet:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.rc.water/topics

See also:

http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?q=rec.models.rc

If you like what you see and would like a much better way to access
USENET, please feel free to ask how.

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Once upon a girl there was a time...

[DLM]

Yes, i read your post , but i'm no guru on the computer and i look at it
from a laymans view and common sense view. Now all that spammer stuff is
ROTTEN and spoil it for the rest of us rc boaters. That doesn't help the
new people interested in boats. I just about eat and sleep rc boats now
that the economic picture is not great. Now the rc boaters ( electric )
are a super small % and bother noone and each enjoy helping others. When
i started, there were no sites to go to and didn't know little unless
you bought plans. You replied on Jerry Dunlap,Jay Turner in RCBM
Magazine for help in the middle 90's. You people will do fine without
me and what has happened will help others to understand. Take care
downunder, ok!


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[DLM]

You really get a kick out of what you type. Question, why bother this
site as it doesn't mean a hill of beans to you and to others it means
some kind of support in boating. Speaking of asbestos underwear, i
think yours must be real tight . You like to irrate to see what kind of
answers you'll get which means your not much of a person. Now a REAL man
not a spammer would present themselves in a manner like you have
presented yourself. Take a hike. Why don't you take your turn in Iraq!
I'm laughing at you and you made my day and i can chuckle the rest of
the day now. Have a good day! Take 2 aspirin and call me in the
morning.


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