AMX New Jet!

[bouncebk2003]

This jet is listed with "New color's"as available on the Aerosmith R/C Hobby website but info is limited.Anyone know who the Manufacturer is,or what the specs are!It looks great to me!

[RCAV8R13]

I'm always suspicious of sites that don't let you buy anything. It pisses me off and wastes my time. The plane looks nice but the lack of info is disturbing. What are they hiding? Why are they in buisness if they won't let you spend money with them? What's the point?
Too bad it's not for sale.

RCA

[firebirdfly]

Yup, They never answer emails.
Very very frustrated.... you can only look
at it.

:-(

[RCAV8R13]

Good grief! Did you notice the price? $125.00 usd. Includes: 64 mm fan, BL motor, esc 30A and 4 servos INSTALLED! Of course, shipping is $50.00 :rolleyes:

[vortices]

Guys the specs are here..

http://aerosmithhobby.proboards55.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=jpower&thread=27&page=1

I have been flying the AMX with the New colours for pass week. May compose a video in you tube. This plane is good. The guys at aerosmith-hobby is attending a convention, currently busy. Will be replying all mail soon.

cheers.
Kevin

[bouncebk2003]

Kevin,what batteries are you flying with and what is your flight time like.I just bought a bunch of 3s 1800"s and the specs say 1300-1800 so I am wondering if that is accurate.

[vortices]

I have been flying it with 1300 25C for 3 minutes, 1800 16C for 4 minutes and 2200 25C for 6 minutes with same cg position. Battery landed warm. With no load residue voltage at 10.9V.

Best performance is with 1800. Light enough and long enough flight. Loops and roll. High speed performance is very respectable but the low speed performance is amazing. You have to see it to believe.

It doesnt come with landing gears though. Hand launch and belly land. It does however comes with 'landing bumps' so the belly doesnt really touch the grd.

Take off power static draw 28 amps. Cruise 1/2 throttle, about 1/3" minimum level flight.

will try to post video.
cheers
kevin

[bouncebk2003]

Kevin thanks for the info.I prefer to hand launch anyway.I just hate to see a jet make a pass with the gear hanging out.I will be interested to see if/when/and how much we can get this one for in the U.S.

[tomme21]

This jet is listed with "New color's"as available on the Aerosmith R/C Hobby website but info is limited.Anyone know who the Manufacturer is,or what the specs are!It looks great to me!
looks a little like a twister, the indian paint scheme looks awesome. :)

wait a minute, it IS a twister!! :eek: jk

[vortices]

Kevin thanks for the info.I prefer to hand launch anyway.I just hate to see a jet make a pass with the gear hanging out.I will be interested to see if/when/and how much we can get this one for in the U.S.


I was told within the next 3 weeks it will be available in the USA by a prominent hobby shop.

cheers.
kevin

[Sid3ways]

I was told within the next 3 weeks it will be available in the USA by a prominent hobby shop.

cheers.
kevin
Oh no. :( $$$$

[bouncebk2003]

Geeze,I sure wish it had wing tanks available too.Nothing looks as good as ordinance hanging off a jet.

[jpower.jalin]

Hi Guys, I'm new here. And I'd like to say the AMX is of our product. Please understand the aerosmithhobby, cause I have an agreement with him not sell to other area. If you are in USA, please wait and you'll get the AMX from Hobby-Lobby maybe one or two weeks later:)
Thanks
Jalin
www.jpower.hk

[darmar]

Hi Guys, I'm new here. And I'd like to say the AMX is of our product. Please understand the aerosmithhobby, cause I have an agreement with him not sell to other area. If you are in USA, please wait and you'll get the AMX from Hobby-Lobby maybe one or two weeks later:)
Thanks
Jalin
www.jpower.hk

Hello Jalin
How about Nitroplanes instead of Hobby Lobby?

[jpower.jalin]

Hi Darmar, are you from Nitroplanes?
We have shipped out an order for HOBBY-LOBBY and they got the exclusive.
So it's a pity now.
You can check in my website and find out others.
Thanks
Jalin

[darmar]

Hi Darmar, are you from Nitroplanes?
We have shipped out an order for HOBBY-LOBBY and they got the exclusive.
So it's a pity now.
You can check in my website and find out others.
Thanks
Jalin

Did you ship RTF or just kits?
No I am not with Nitroplanes.

[jpower.jalin]

Did you ship RTF or just kits?
No I am not with Nitroplanes.
We shipped both RTF and ARF to Hobby-Lobby

[Ben-Rod]

WoW, Hobby-Lobby must be scouting the oreint for edfs.

Cool looking jet for sure... Really like that indian scheme.

Hope its easily upgradeable.

Ben Rodriguez

[metroidrc]

Is it an F11 tiger?

[metroidrc]

wings on the f11 are bigger I'm not sure what the heck this one is.

http://www.pssaonline.co.uk/images/449.jpg

[bouncebk2003]

Guys,it is an Aeromacchi-Embraer AMX.So far used in Italy and Brazil as I understand.Here is a link http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/amx.htm

[metroidrc]

wow - thats great, I'd never heard of that one before.

[jpower.jalin]

Guys,it is an Aeromacchi-Embraer AMX.So far used in Italy and Brazil as I understand.Here is a link http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/amx.htm

Yes, it's AMX used in Both Italy and Brazil.
Anyone who can show me how to post pictures here? I'm new with Rcgroups.
I have some details of the AMX on hand.

[Andy chen]

Beautiful

[jpower.jalin]

Thanks Jon:) Here now comes the picuters!

[BARNESJONR]

Looks really, really nice JJ!! Did you get the rest of my PM? ;) :D

[jpower.jalin]

Looks really, really nice JJ!! Did you get the rest of my PM? ;) :D
Check your PM Joh:)

[BARNESJONR]

That AMX is gorgeous and your A7 is also a great looking plane. I am really looking forward to seeing how they fly! Thanks for posting the photos Jalin!

[metroidrc]

That AMX is gorgeous and your A7 is also a great looking plane. I am really looking forward to seeing how they fly! Thanks for posting the photos Jalin!

don't think we'll need any scale mods on this one! :D

[bouncebk2003]

don't think we'll need any scale mods on this one! :D

Except for maybe drop tanks!They would really look great!I may just hold off on my next jet purchase and wait for this one.

[jpower.jalin]

Except for maybe drop tanks!They would really look great!I may just hold off on my next jet purchase and wait for this one.
Drop tanks like this?
Of course it has!

[bouncebk2003]

No those look like missiles on the wing tips.I am talking about underwing drop tanks like in this picture.

[firebirdfly]

looks a little like a twister, the indian paint scheme looks awesome. :)

wait a minute, it IS a twister!! :eek: jk


no way that an AMX is a twister?
Impossible....


What is the Twister anyway?
I take the AMX by all means.


:-)

[firebirdfly]

Drop tanks like this?
Of course it has!

I will replace those drop tanks with Bombs and
Sidewinders on the wing tips. See picture :-)

And Hopefully Hobby Lobby will offer
the ARF version of the AMX, no motor, no fan, no electronics.

:-)

[firebirdfly]

photo of Full scale AMX with
LE flaps, TE flaps, refueling probe,
full tail elevator and AIM-9 on
wingtips

:-)

[Doubletap]

I like the colorful version of this model; although I prefer jets with military schemes, I find them difficult to see in the sky (that's why they are painted the way they are!). This one looks nice for a smaller size jet and I like the fact that it has enough room to carry a 3S 2200 pack.

Doubletap

[BARNESJONR]

I don't think it was mentioned in this thread yet but for those of you subscribed here who may have missed it in the thread, Hobby Lobby has these In Stock and available NOW! :D

[Drew816]

So can you use a 2250 3s1p on the AMX with no problems? I have a stockpile of this sized lipo and that makes the AMX an attractive offering for me plus the $180 price of entry, heck only a $20 bill away from a PNP Stryker and it looks a heck of a lot better!

[Doubletap]

So can you use a 2250 3s1p on the AMX with no problems? I have a stockpile of this sized lipo and that makes the AMX an attractive offering for me plus the $180 price of entry, heck only a $20 bill away from a PNP Stryker and it looks a heck of a lot better!

According to vortices (see post #7), 2200 3S fits. I also have a pile of older 3S 15C-20C 2100-2200 packs this would be perfect for.

Doubletap

[Drew816]

Yeah I saw his posting but I wanted to see if anyone else had tried and had similar success. No offense to Vortice's but I've found the success story of a single poster may not translate into success for all; especially when there's a lot of variation in a 3s1p in the 2100-2250 size range. I have 4 FAT G-Force 2250's that have proven to be incredibly durable and a bargain (surviving stresses that other 'better known and more expensive lipos' did not survive!) but they are pretty chunky.

I was thinking I was going to wait to get another EDF as my Lander Panther should be arriving next week and I can wait a few to see what else comes out over the Winter months (like they upcoming F-16D/I and Hawker Hunter) BUT for $180 and the ability to use existing lipos, hummm....

Happy Flying!

[firebirdfly]

I have been flying it with 1300 25C for 3 minutes, 1800 16C for 4 minutes and 2200 25C for 6 minutes with same cg position.
kevin


Kevin.

Could you please post the CG of the AMX.
Thanks.


:-)

[Doubletap]

I don't think it was mentioned in this thread yet but for those of you subscribed here who may have missed it in the thread, Hobby Lobby has these In Stock and available NOW! :D

Thanks Jon! I found the Hobby Lobby "free shipping" ghost and ordered all the airframe parts plus fan unit for $77.94 delivered.

Doubletap

[twiztidbowler]

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/amx.htm

[BARNESJONR]

Hmmmm..where was that ghost? Is it still there!?

[Doubletap]

It's there if you look hard enough. ;)

PM sent.

Doubletap

[Glasair]

Hmmmm..where was that ghost? Is it still there!?

The ghost is for $50 off any one stock above $250. Won't work for the AMX but they have a 20% off going right now for star customers and also a $15 off for any $100 abv item. Hit the website now and check it out.

[Doubletap]

There are 5 different ghosts scattered throughout the website, each for a different discount.

[Sammy70]

and also a $15 off for any $100 abv item. Hit the website now and check it out.


Is that $15 off $100 deal one of the ghosts, or just a regular offer somewhere?

[Glasair]

Is that $15 off $100 deal one of the ghosts, or just a regular offer somewhere?
I don't think it was a ghost. Someone sent me a link for the $15 off. it's on the HL A-7 thread. I think the last page.

[The Don]

Thanks Jon! I found the Hobby Lobby "free shipping" ghost and ordered all the airframe parts plus fan unit for $77.94 delivered.
Doubletap

I am curious if that will be all the parts needed. I tried that with the F-18 and the battery hatches were not included and they would not sell them to you uless you had bought the ARF or RTF version prior. It is a nice model and I would like to get it. I guess I will wait until you get your stuff first :)

Don

[Doubletap]

I am curious if that will be all the parts needed. I tried that with the F-18 and the battery hatches were not included and they would not sell them to you uless you had bought the ARF or RTF version prior. It is a nice model and I would like to get it. I guess I will wait until you get your stuff first :)

Don

Yeah, I was kinda wondering about that; does this model have a wing spar and does it come with the wing set and the same for stuff like hatches. I guess anything can be supplied or fabricated by the builder but it's just one less hassle if it comes with those little nick nacks already. I'll let you know as soon as I get it. ;)

Doubletap

[smbc]

will the amx take a alfa fan unit?

[jpower.jalin]

will the amx take a alfa fan unit?

It needs all a 64mm ducted fan :)

[smbc]

the alfa is a 61mm. i was going to fly it with that fan, a dons wicked edf motor with a 40 amp esc and 2100 3s 20-c battery, what do you think? should be around 500 watts

[Psycho Synapse]

Doubletap,

If you don't mind, when yours comes in and you get everything put together, could you please report back or send PM to let us know your thoughts on the plane? I am curious how it flies with your setup and what your setup is.

I am thinking about buying the pieces as well and adding my own stuff.

thanks in advance,
David

[Doubletap]

Doubletap,

If you don't mind, when yours comes in and you get everything put together, could you please report back or send PM to let us know your thoughts on the plane? I am curious how it flies with your setup and what your setup is.

I am thinking about buying the pieces as well and adding my own stuff.

thanks in advance,
David

No problem; I fully intend to report once I received the kit and when I finished building and flying it. Right now, I plan to use a Hobby City motor I already have, the HXT 2435 4040kv. This motor has a 24.2mm diameter and 2mm shaft which should fit the stock fan according to the info I've gleaned. Speed control will be a Super Simple 40A and Turnigy 3A BEC. I have lots of older 3S 15-20C 2100-2200 lipos I think would be perfect for this model.

Doubletap

[vortices]

Kevin.

Could you please post the CG of the AMX.
Thanks.


:-)

As per instruction, 65-70mm from the inboard leading edge. Even flew it recently at 60mm, it flew fine.

This plane is unbelievably easy to launch! no running, no critical release angle, no hard toss, plenty of grip area, almost no torque roll, no pitch up or down tendency. Very good candidate for first EDF for those graduating from propellers.

cheers
kevin

[BadClams]

OK folks...

I'm new to EDF and am wondering a couple things about this AMX. Does the RTF version need an added BEC? Does the included ESC have a built-in LVC? As it would be my first EDF, I prefer to minimize after-purchase tinkering as much as possible, but I want to know what else I'd NEED to get it going. This thing looks like a perfect jumping off point to get into the EDF game, but I'm open to suggestion: are there any other solid performing first-EDF choices out there? I currently fly from a field/parking lot and would like to keep performance where I don't need a "formal flying field".

Also, can anyone post a picture of the underside of the jet and battery/motor compartment?

thanks!
Brendan

[Doubletap]

UPS dropped off my AMX parts set today. The parts were all very well packed with multiple layers of bubble wrap but even then, the fuselage at the aft end around the tail cone was damaged. Everything else survived. The only other issue I had was that the stock fan that I ordered was missing the adapter. I'll have to get on touch with my buddy Jason Cole at Hobby Lobby to take care of this problem. ;)

To answer some previously asked questions, the long bottom access hatch is not included with any of the airframe parts; neither were the little tip tanks/missile thingys that go on the wing tips. Additionally, the fan housing is made to accept either a 20mm diam motor or 24mm. If you plan to use a 24mm motor, you must remove the plastic alignment ridges inside of the motor housing. There is plenty of room to fit most batteries up to 3S2200 I would say, although some foam would have to be removed in certain spots.

On to the pictures.

Doubletap

[The Don]

Thanks for the report. That is the same fan I have so the stock rotor plug will be for a 2.3mm shaft so if you want 3mm let me know as I have them for 3mm shafts. By the way, the damage to the back I believe is from the packer at Hobby Lobby. They jam this brown paper into the boxes just before closing the box to fill the void at teh end of teh box and have had two foam fuselages damaged the same way.

Don

[Doubletap]

Thanks for the report. That is the same fan I have so the stock rotor plug will be for a 2.3mm shaft so if you want 3mm let me know as I have them for 3mm shafts. By the way, the damage to the back I believe is from the packer at Hobby Lobby. They jam this brown paper into the boxes just before closing the box to fill the void at teh end of teh box and have had two foam fuselages damaged the same way.

Don

Thanks Don! I already dropped Jason an email; he should be able to send me the stock 2.3 adapter which I have a few motors for anyways. Yeah, the broken parts were pretty clean and fit back together like a puzzle, almost. It's not that noticeable but if it was in the nose area that would be different. I'll let HL slide on that one as they've come through for me many times in the past and in fact went far above what would be normally expected from a retailer. ;)

Doubletap

[Drew816]

Not sure where the damage is coming from but my A-7 showed up with it's nose crunched right at the intake (HL is sending a new complete fuse) and in my case no brown paper and the exterior box was fine, however the interior J-Power box was crunched. The need to 'brace' these areas with something and insure they're packed better, way too many reports of this same kind of problem here on this forum and that can't be cheap for Hobby-Lobby...

Sorry to hear your AMX showed up dinged but it does look like it will go right back together. I look forward to seeing it assembled and up and flying.

Y'all have a good one.

[Doubletap]

OK, I had ordered all the individual airframe parts PLUS the fan unit. I found that the fan did not include the adapter which is normally included with any fan unit you buy regardless of manufacturer. I PM'ed Jason from Hobby Lobby and he got back with me; he said that it looks like the adapters did not come with the individual fan units and they will have to order them separately and that it will take some time.

My point is: if you plane on going for the airframe only parts route, DO NOT ORDER THE FAN UNIT. You won't be able to use it as is because they are missing the adapter. The only exception is if you plan to use a motor with a 3mm shaft such as Don's wicked motors, then you can get a special 3mm adapter for this fan unit directly from Don. That is the only exception.

I now have to decide if I want to buy a complete replacement fan or use something that I have in the parts bin to build this bird. Oh well. :(

Doubletap

[firebirdfly]

OK, I had ordered all the individual airframe parts PLUS the fan unit. I found that the fan did not include the adapter which is normally included with any fan unit you buy regardless of manufacturer. I PM'ed Jason from Hobby Lobby and he got back with me; he said that it looks like the adapters did not come with the individual fan units and they will have to order them separately and that it will take some time.

My point is: if you plane on going for the airframe only parts route, DO NOT ORDER THE FAN UNIT. You won't be able to use it as is because they are missing the adapter. The only exception is if you plan to use a motor with a 3mm shaft such as Don's wicked motors, then you can get a special 3mm adapter for this fan unit directly from Don. That is the only exception.

I now have to decide if I want to buy a complete replacement fan or use something that I have in the parts bin to build this bird. Oh well. :(

Doubletap


Strange.
Hobby Lobby service is getting strange lately?

[Doubletap]

Strange.
Hobby Lobby service is getting strange lately?

I don't think it has anything to do with Hobby Lobby; rather an error by the factory.

Doubletap

[jpower.jalin]

OK, I had ordered all the individual airframe parts PLUS the fan unit. I found that the fan did not include the adapter which is normally included with any fan unit you buy regardless of manufacturer. I PM'ed Jason from Hobby Lobby and he got back with me; he said that it looks like the adapters did not come with the individual fan units and they will have to order them separately and that it will take some time.

My point is: if you plane on going for the airframe only parts route, DO NOT ORDER THE FAN UNIT. You won't be able to use it as is because they are missing the adapter. The only exception is if you plan to use a motor with a 3mm shaft such as Don's wicked motors, then you can get a special 3mm adapter for this fan unit directly from Don. That is the only exception.

I now have to decide if I want to buy a complete replacement fan or use something that I have in the parts bin to build this bird. Oh well. :(

Doubletap

The fan unit is really come without the adapters.
While the adapters are come with the spare part motors.

We think that you pilots might have your own motor with fixed adapter, you know, if your own motor comes with a 3mm diameter, our adapter is just for 2.3mm diameter, it won't work.

So that's why the adapters comes with spare part motor, while do not come with fan units.

Anyway, we'll apply adapters also with fan units in future. And we will send some PCS of adapters soon to hobby-lobby!

My suggestion is, if you order spare parts of fan unit or motor, ordder them together.

There's many factories with the problem, spare part fan unit do not quite match your own motor.

Anyway, If someone of you can kindly give me a good idea to solve this problem?
Thank you in advance!

Jalin

[Doubletap]

The fan unit is really come without the adapters.
While the adapters are come with the spare part motors.

We think that you pilots might have your own motor with fixed adapter, you know, if your own motor comes with a 3mm diameter, our adapter is just for 2.3mm diameter, it won't work.

So that's why the adapters comes with spare part motor, while do not come with fan units.

Anyway, we'll apply adapters also with fan units in future. And we will send some PCS of adapters soon to hobby-lobby!

My suggestion is, if you order spare parts of fan unit or motor, ordder them together.

There's many factories with the problem, spare part fan unit do not quite match your own motor.

Anyway, If someone of you can kindly give me a good idea to solve this problem?
Thank you in advance!

Jalin


Hi Jalin,

actually, the shaft adapter is ALWAYS included with all fans I have purchased including Haoye, Wemotec, HET, GWS, HyperFlow, APS, etc. They typically come in the most common size shaft diameter, and some come with a few different adapters to suit different shaft sizes.

Most motors sizes have a common shaft size. For example, 20mm inrunner brushless motors almost always have a 2.3mm shaft. 370 size (24mm) use 2mm shafts. 380-400 size (28mm) typically have 3.17mm shafts. There are only a few different size shafts the adapter needs to fit, however there are too many different impellers that you can't expect an adapter to fit all of those.

If the fan housing is sized for 20mm motors, then typically the 2.3mm adapter is included. Same with housings sized for 28mm/3.17mm shafts. 3mm shaft is really the only exception on some motors (especially outrunners) but never does this size shaft appear on 20mm inrunners which is what this fan is designed for.

This fan is basically useless to me now unless someone can give me the adapter that should have been included with it in the first place.

Doubletap

[jpower.jalin]

Hi Jalin,

actually, the shaft adapter is ALWAYS included with all fans I have purchased including Haoye, Wemotec, HET, GWS, HyperFlow, APS, etc. They typically come in the most common size shaft diameter, and some come with a few different adapters to suit different shaft sizes.

Most motors sizes have a common shaft size. For example, 20mm inrunner brushless motors almost always have a 2.3mm shaft. 370 size (24mm) use 2mm shafts. 380-400 size (28mm) typically have 3.17mm shafts. There are only a few different size shafts the adapter needs to fit, however there are too many different impellers that you can't expect an adapter to fit all of those.

If the fan housing is sized for 20mm motors, then typically the 2.3mm adapter is included. Same with housings sized for 28mm/3.17mm shafts. 3mm shaft is really the only exception on some motors (especially outrunners) but never does this size shaft appear on 20mm inrunners which is what this fan is designed for.

This fan is basically useless to me now unless someone can give me the adapter that should have been included with it in the first place.

Doubletap


Doubletap, please see the PM, Sorry again!
Please try agian with HL, aslo I'm going to make a PM to Jason and hope we together can solve this problem as quick as we can!

[The Don]

missing the adapter. The only exception is if you plan to use a motor with a 3mm shaft such as Don's wicked motors, then you can get a special 3mm adapter for this fan unit directly from Don.

I have the complete fans units with 2.3mm adapter
http://www.donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=74

If you just need the 2.3mm version adapter I have a few extra.

Don

[Doubletap]

I have the complete fans units with 2.3mm adapter
http://www.donsrc.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=74

If you just need the 2.3mm version adapter I have a few extra.

Don

Thanks Don, I'm going to wait a bit and see if Hobby Lobby and Jalin can make things happen on their end. If it's going to take too long, I'll hit you up for one of those 2.3mm adapter. Please save one for me. :)

Thanks,

Doubletap

[mjemery]

So just ordering the parts seems like a good way to go but is there anyway to get a bottom access hatch or do you just have to go without one?

[Doubletap]

So just ordering the parts seems like a good way to go but is there anyway to get a bottom access hatch or do you just have to go without one?

I'm just going to make a hatch perhaps out of 1/32" plywood and tape it on. I think if you make the battery pack accessible from the cockpit area by removing some unneeded foam; there is no reason to have to access the area under the bottom hatch.

Doubletap

[Doubletap]

I'm assembling mine right now. Thanks to "The Don" for providing me with the missing 2.3mm rotor adapter that was not provided with the fan unit. ;)

Here's my equipment list:

-Hextronik 2040 130L 4850kv motor
-Stock fan unit
-Super Simple 40A ESC
-2 Hextronik H900 9g servos (for ailerons)
-2 Hextronik H500 5g servos (for elevators)
-ASSAN X8 R6 receiver
- 3S 20C 2200mah lipos

Hoping of for 300W+ on this setup.

Doubletap

[Doubletap]

Any flight reports? I'm just waiting for my motor heatsink to arrive in a few days; been working on it in the meantime. All servo leads are soldered up and run as well as all the extension cables for the ESC. I cut a hole in the bottom of the inlet duct in front of the fan to bury the ESC so it will be exposed to the oncoming airflow.

Doubletap

[Glasair]

I've flown mine stock a few times. Good performance. Half throttle loops are easy. WOT vertical is decent with maybe 3 rolls before stalling. Diving down for high speed it makes an interesting whistling noise as the air flows around the plane. For a little plane it's more stable than most it's size. I'm sure with all the upgrades everyone is doing this little guy will really zoom. Only problem I had was my control settings were changing as the flight progressed. I leveled the elevator before flight but after landing each side was offset a few degrees. I'm using a cheap Exceed RC TX/RX so that must be the problem.

[gquiring]

Only problem I had was my control settings were changing as the flight progressed. I leveled the elevator before flight but after landing each side was offset a few degrees. I'm using a cheap Exceed RC TX/RX so that must be the problem.It's the servos included. Check out my video on the problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjrS-N5lxQ

[Glasair]

That's funny. I just watched your video on the other thread after posting mine. Well that definitely answers the problem. I've never had a plane where the servos slowly get out of center as the flight progressed. I had to constantly re-trim this thing as the flight went on. What sucks is the elevator is like that. That's why some of my loops kept getting skewed to one side. Thanks for the vid!

[Doubletap]

Can someone tell me where the recommended CG of 65-70mm is measured from? Do you measure from the leading edge root right at the fuselage or where the actual wing panels are glued to the fuselage? I hope that makes sense. :o I didn't receive a manual because I bought only the individual airframe parts.

Thanks,

Doubletap

[big-john-52]

This is what happens when you (and when I say you I mean me) :D must by the latest and gratest new thing. I would like to wate and let some other sucker work out all the bugs on the new what ever but no not me ...you ...lol who ever I got to get it now and when I do its a pain in the butt.

Some time in August Hobby Lobby will have all the bugs worked out and this will be a great jet but for us ( got to have it now guys )
we have to suck it up and be the guinea pig for all the rest of you guys.

Just say thanks caus thats all we will get for our truble...lol :D

fly for fun, love for life and just have fun John

[big-john-52]

I have seen in other post that the new batch of AMX jets or to have new and inproved servos I hope this is true.

I ordered my AMX last friday order said they should be in on 2-13-2009... I hope so...

untill it comes in ill just keep on flying my phase 3 F-16 it dose not look as good but flys good.

John

[krashfree]

That's funny. I just watched your video on the other thread after posting mine. Well that definitely answers the problem. I've never had a plane where the servos slowly get out of center as the flight progressed. I had to constantly re-trim this thing as the flight went on. What sucks is the elevator is like that. That's why some of my loops kept getting skewed to one side. Thanks for the vid!


do yourself a big BIG favor, throw those
Servos into the trash can. I just lost my J-power
mini F-5e because of one of those servos.
I really like the J-power F-5E but not those junky
servos.

[Glasair]

Too late. i crashed that thing months ago. Came into flare for landing and it rolled to one side and ripped the wing off. Checked the servos and the left elevator was'nt hardly moving. Combine that with the ailerons were off center and it created a right roll low to the ground. This is the only model that I've really had problems with servos. My HL F-5 has crap servos but they work fine. I hear it's only a matter of time before they fail though. To replace a model's servos can be a costly thing especially if it has like 6 of them. Unfortunately there aren't many aircraft that are sold airframe only so I'll keep rolling the dice.

[krashfree]

Too late. i crashed that thing months ago. Came into flare for landing and it rolled to one side and ripped the wing off. Checked the servos and the left elevator was'nt hardly moving. Combine that with the ailerons were off center and it created a right roll low to the ground. This is the only model that I've really had problems with servos. My HL F-5 has crap servos but they work fine. I hear it's only a matter of time before they fail though. To replace a model's servos can be a costly thing especially if it has like 6 of them. Unfortunately there aren't many aircraft that are sold airframe only so I'll keep rolling the dice.

well I learned the hard way and totaled the plane.
So, I would rather bite the bullet now, replace the stock servos,
than total my plane again.

It is really a Pain in the behind with those stock junky stuffs.

[Doubletap]

That's why I keep saying, DON'T buy PNP/RTF's. Buy just the airframes and install your own gear. It doesn't even cost that much; the problem is the gear that comes with the PNP/RTF's may look like the ones you get at HobbyKing but they are very low quality, much more so than HK. I've never had a single Hextronic HXT900 9g ($3.50) or HXT500 5g servo from HK fail on me. I buy them by the dozen and test them immediately when I receive them. I use 2-HXT 9g on the ailerons for the AMX, and 2-HXT 5g servos for the elevators. Cost me $14 for the servos.

Doubletap

[krashfree]

That's why I keep saying, DON'T buy PNP/RTF's. Buy just the airframes and install your own gear. It doesn't even cost that much.

Doubletap

I knew that. I wanted that. NO PNP/RTF :mad: :mad:
I can find some hen's teeth out there but
it is impossible to find that mini F-5E airframe.

[Doubletap]

I knew that. I wanted that. NO PNP?RTF
But I can find some hen's teeth out there but
it is impossible to find that mini F-5E airframe.

That's why you have to pester the vendors and manufacturers constantly so that they will sell the airframes only. That's what I've been doing for almost a year now; I'm very vocal about this on these threads because I know that they are reading and listening. In the last 6-8 months I've noticed a huge increase in the number of airframes being offered by manufacturers who normally only sold RTF or PNP. But everyone has to do their part and speak up! ;)

Doubletap

[big-john-52]

I see that the AMX is now not ready to ship on 02-13-2009 but now it said 02-20-2009. :confused:

I know I know 02-13-09 was just a guss right :D ... but it will be on 02-20-09 right ...right... we will see not going to hold my breath though.

[BadClams]

I see that the AMX is now not ready to ship on 02-13-2009 but now it said 02-20-2009. :confused:

I know I know 02-13-09 was just a guss right :D ... but it will be on 02-20-09 right ...right... we will see not going to hold my breath though.

and don't forget the 02-13-09 was an update from the LAST expected arrival of 01-20-09!!!!!!! I wonder whats the holdup???

[BARNESJONR]

I think it may be a little hard to predict an incoming container AND the time it will take to clear customs? Pretty dynamic me thinks! :D

[big-john-52]

Well my wife just lost her job and and I work for the same company and wonder how long before I get the ax, they layed off 16 this week.

Its a small company that had 179 working in july and now its down to 49 very solum around here, only about 8 people left in our building wow gost town.

I wonder if I did the right thing ordering that amx now but at least ill have somthing to play with when I get layed off ...lol

[BARNESJONR]

Ouch ... sorry to hear that. The hurting is really affecting a lot of people. :(

[BadClams]

Could someone please post the dimentions (and weight, if you have it) of the stock 1300 mAh battery please? The HL site has no info for this battery that I could find!!!

thanks
bc

[BARNESJONR]

BC:

Stock lipo is:

2 3/4 x 1 5/16 x 15/16 inches
66mm x 34mm x 24mm
L x W x H

Weight is: 4.1 oz (116 G)

Sorry I never PM'd it back to you man! The difference this time is you caught me in "build" mode ... not working, home, and covered in balsa dust and building! ;)

[BadClams]

Thanks Man!!! Long live Jon!

(just didn't wanna pester you again...)

bc
BC:

Stock lipo is:

2 3/4 x 1 5/16 x 15/16 inches
66mm x 34mm x 24mm
L x W x H

Weight is: 4.1 oz (116 G)

Sorry I never PM'd it back to you man! The difference this time is you caught me in "build" mode ... not working, home, and covered in balsa dust and building! ;)

[BadClams]

BC:

Stock lipo is:

2 3/4 x 1 5/16 x 15/16 inches
66mm x 34mm x 24mm
L x W x H



66mm long?!!!! That thing is TINY!

Can you get a 100 - 110 mm long batt in there? With or without cutting?

[Doubletap]

66mm long?!!!! That thing is TINY!

Can you get a 100 - 110 mm long batt in there? With or without cutting?

I'm using 2200 3S packs in mine; you have to remove a couple of foam sub-bulkheads to do so. No big deal.

Doubletap

[big-john-52]

Doubletap: Do you have any pics you can pass on to us? I have lots of 2200mah packs 103mm (4.048in) and a few 1500mah packs 85mm(3.34in).

And what about the CG?

And how do you compensate?

thanks John

[BadClams]

Doubletap: Do you have any pics you can pass on to us? I have lots of 2200mah packs 103mm (4.048in) and a few 1500mah packs 85mm(3.34in).

And what about the CG?

And how do you compensate?

thanks John

Anyone??? (yeah...I'm wondering too!)

[big-john-52]

I see that H-L has changed the AMX jet to read AVAILABLE NOW so

I guess we will see our jets in a few days :D we can only hope right?

How long from TN to Texas maby three days we will see

John

[big-john-52]

got my shipping notice last night checked tracking this morning it made ot all the way

to nashville...lol might get to Texas by the weekend. If so ill be fling on sunday

SWEET.

John