View Full Version : Discussion Homemade Fail safe: any help?
rva1945
Aug 28, 2008, 10:45 AM
Hi:
I just need a circuit that makes a servo travel to a preset position in case of loss of signal.
PICs are hard to find here, so I'd like to use discrete components.
I guess the circuit should detect loss of signal and trigger a relay that turns a 555 on which is configured to output a preset pulse width, or something like that.
Thanks
Robert
Rodney
Aug 28, 2008, 02:12 PM
You will probably get better help if you do two things, state your location and state what brand and type system you are using. There is quite a difference in FM, AM, PPM, PCM or 2.4GHz and in country (frequency and power allowed).
Chippie
Aug 28, 2008, 02:57 PM
You need a 555 configured to act as missing pulse detector...google will turn summat up..generally for ppm tho'
Tomapowa
Aug 28, 2008, 05:03 PM
Non-Pic-based Fail-Safe.... built many of these years ago...
http://www.laureanno.com/RC/failsafe.htm
rva1945
Aug 29, 2008, 08:58 AM
Non-Pic-based Fail-Safe.... built many of these years ago...
http://www.laureanno.com/RC/failsafe.htm
GREAT BUT, WHICH ES THE IC?
Thanks
Dan Baldwin
Aug 29, 2008, 11:35 AM
The IC is a CMOS quad 2 input nand gate; CD4011
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=HsbVqlCqgzGaKt4meFPo1g%3d%3d
Dan
tarmotaja
Sep 01, 2008, 03:57 PM
Hi,
before you start building that Fail-Safe unit, look the Servo outputs of Receiver. If you can find Oscilloscope, that's the best. In ideal case there is no servosignal by loosing Tx signal. But sometimes will Receiver generate quite strange noise ( random pulses ) to servo outputs. Then you can't use simple solutions.
BR,
Tarmo
pabloantoine
Sep 07, 2008, 12:00 AM
There is a simple/reliable solution without any electronics involved.
I built an optical sensor working on a Futaba 6Ex /R606FS system 2.4 GHz for my blimp. The receiver has a green LED for live trans. At the loss of radio link a red LED lights up. A photocell I adapted on the case of the RX sees only the red LED when it lights up and lets current pass to a servo that pulls an arm and releases a 200 m recovery line on a spool. It works flawlessly, it uses one channel and the system is armed before starting the receiver.
It's basically just a photocell in series with the servo, waiting for the red light to come up...
rva1945
Sep 07, 2008, 10:20 AM
Nice solution. But my receiver doesn't have a led that turns off in case of loss of signal.
And 2,4 GHz systems simply don't work in submarines.
Thanks
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