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[T. Lyttle]

I got to thinking (a rare occurrence): this is an electric site, right?

We have been discussing freeflight, right?

Some discussion on the Scale site about Guillows kits, right?

Some discussion about NoCal on this site, right?

I have a Guillows Dauntless kit, a GWS motor/prop, and a friendly land owner who allows me to fly on ~ 60 acres. My nefarious plan here is to increase wood sizes proportionately to the Dauntless size (~31") and have some fun.

Anyone tried this?

[steve lewin]

No it's a general site, though it does include a lot of electrics.
Yes we discuss freeflight in the freeflight forum.
Yes we discuss Guillows kits in the scale forum
Yes No-cal has been discussed in this FF forum

Then you lost me.

Did you say you want to make a 31" span GWS powered No-cal Guillows freeflight Dauntless ?

Doesn't the Dauntless kit already have Dauntless size wood in it ? Where does the No-cal come in ?

It's obviously too early in the morning for me to take in ideas, however brilliant ;).

Steve

[Bob Chiang]

Hi T.

I don't have personal experience, but it should work fine.

I power a converted rubber model of about that span with a GWS motor as a three channel RC job, and it works fine. As a free flight you could use quite a small battery and it would be a real floater. Once the motor stops running, it will probably create quite a lot of drag, reducing your glide.

Check out these folks that (I think) do something similar to what you're asking about:

http://www.aeronutz.flyer.co.uk/

[T. Lyttle]

Morning there, night time here, I empathise with your morning IQ, I have the same problem (lemme see, two legs, three holes... I managed yesterday...).

I have the kit, use kit wood for back fence, use plans only to build a very large NoCal, just for the hell of it. I have the motor & batteries, and a place to fly.

Will check out the site suggested by Bob. I know the Brits like to do this srt of thing for radio, but I thought ff would increase the challenge :D

[steve lewin]

Ah...I thought NoCal was a size which is one reason I got confused. I imagine you're using the term to mean a built-up profile fuselage plane, a sort of stick-built Ebeneezer ;).

Sounds entirely practical. I'm not sure the Aeronutz site will be very much help because they're mainly into smaller and smaller indoor foamies, with IR or R/C control but it should at least be interesting :).

A GWS motor would be plenty of power, possibly even too much but then you can just cut down on the number of cells in the battery. It's not exactly difficult developing a cut-off timer (unless of course you actually want a 10-15 minutes motor run).

Good luck - Steve

[Rifleman]

just to let you in on a bit..........5-6 yrs ago, we were doing the early learning in electric stuff and naturally the quickest way, was to build No-Cals and put in the smallest motors and battery packs along with a pot to be used for a speed control. Zoom we were off to the ceiling....these, along with the Thistle design, provided many hours of fun while learing......" real " No-Cals " 16" wing and beefed up to 1/16 square, 8lb balsa stock for the build. worked fine !