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stobby256
Jul 29, 2008, 11:17 AM
Hi All,
Im almost new to fast RC boats, but I'm exprenced in constructional
techniques as I've built RC aircraft in the past.
My questions are...
I have a fibreglass hull, around 820mm long and intend to build
something into it.. as I say I'm capable but quetions remain!
1) It weighs around 1.5kg without any running gear, battery or radio or
decking fitted, so my all up weight icuding a 12V pack, servo, ESC, 2 x
motors.. is going over 3kg. Is that now too heavy?
2) I can build one from scratch from some plans downloaded from here,
but whats the finishing technique, build from Balsa/ply etc then glass
fibre the hull?
3) Where should the centre of gravity be?
Any input much appreciated!
Stobby
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Jim
Jul 29, 2008, 03:03 PM
That seems extremely heavy. Is it a fiberglass hull or wood? Is it racing or
scale (tugboat, etc)? For a mono hull or catamaran racing boat I always
start with the CG at approx. 30-33% of the length of the hull from the
stern. On a hydro, I try to balance just at the rear edge of the sponsons.
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> Hi All,
> Im almost new to fast RC boats, but I'm exprenced in constructional
> techniques as I've built RC aircraft in the past.
>
> My questions are...
>
> I have a fibreglass hull, around 820mm long and intend to build
> something into it.. as I say I'm capable but quetions remain!
>
> 1) It weighs around 1.5kg without any running gear, battery or radio or
> decking fitted, so my all up weight icuding a 12V pack, servo, ESC, 2 x
> motors.. is going over 3kg. Is that now too heavy?
>
> 2) I can build one from scratch from some plans downloaded from here,
> but whats the finishing technique, build from Balsa/ply etc then glass
> fibre the hull?
>
> 3) Where should the centre of gravity be?
>
> Any input much appreciated!
>
> Stobby
>
>
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stobby256
Jul 30, 2008, 07:48 AM
Details as follows :-
- Fibreglass hull
- 34" Length
- 12" Beam
- 1.2kg weight (empty, no R/C, motors props etc) :confused:
- Racing Mono Hull
Its great to think I'm not alone - thanks for any help! :)
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Rex Reynolds
Jul 30, 2008, 01:48 PM
my mean machine(29"/737mm) racing cat weighs in 3.75kg(approx) ready to
rock!
rex
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> Details as follows :-
>
>
> - Fibreglass hull
> - 34" Length
> - 12" Beam
> - 1.2kg weight (empty, no R/C, motors props etc) :confused:
> - Racing Mono Hull
>
>
> Its great to think I'm not alone - thanks for any help! :)
>
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DLM
Sep 30, 2008, 11:11 PM
Yes 30-33% is close. I believe 29% is the magic #. I build my own wooden
boats, monos mainly, i lift the boat empty till it is level and mark. I
lay all my equipment in boat around the the mark except rx and rudder
servo. Each are placed close to opposite rear corners. Now with lipos,
i have to move motor towards the bow just alittle due to weight
difference of lipos compared to nimh cells. The difference is about 5
oz. in favor of lipos. I have found that i do not need trim tabs. When
i build a mono, i put on full lenght strakes with the last portion of
strakes looking like steps which raises transom and gives a good ride
attitude. I experimented with a No Step 1 and ran strakes to and
including transom and works great. I did this also with a wooden El
Lobo II plus ran strut down 1 degree negative and ended up with a very
low roostertail and no trim tabs and small turn fins without much drag.
Lipos are in saddle pack formation for easy cg purposes. Good luck and
have fun. I would go BL systems that are waterproof. Now this may not
be the route you want to take, but i did and thought it might help in
some degree.
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stobby256
Oct 01, 2008, 04:59 AM
Great answers...!
A picture would be good :)
ANd whats a BL system.... Told you I was a newcomer!
Steve
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