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joe manor
Jul 23, 2008, 08:28 PM
What is the biggest variable pitch prop and electric motor setup available? Are they used in big planes? I want reverse.
rebell
Jul 24, 2008, 02:04 PM
http://www.ramoser.de/home_e/varioprop_e/varioprop_e.html
Smash McCrash
Jul 24, 2008, 07:18 PM
I think he's looking for a prop that can be varied in flight. I have seen a setup for 50CC gas power, but, I haven't seen any for anything between flat foam and that one.
Mike
Mick Molloy
Jul 27, 2008, 08:22 AM
make you own from the tail rotor assy of a large rc heli and folding props from gliders
rebell
Jul 27, 2008, 02:21 PM
make you own from the tail rotor assy of a large rc heli and folding props from glidersNice idea. Only problem is that you need a hollow shaft on the motor to be able to control pitch in flight. Is there a way to do it without a hollow shaft motor? I would like to use VP prop not for reverse, but for variable thrust for low and high speed. I have a small hotliner with a solid shaft inrunner in it and would like to have PV prop on that.
Mick Molloy
Jul 27, 2008, 08:03 PM
Nice idea. Only problem is that you need a hollow shaft on the motor to be able to control pitch in flight. Is there a way to do it without a hollow shaft motor? I would like to use VP prop not for reverse, but for variable thrust for low and high speed. I have a small hotliner with a solid shaft inrunner in it and would like to have PV prop on that.
Why?? :confused:
the helis dont use them...
rebell
Jul 28, 2008, 01:54 AM
OK, I am not into helicopters so I don’t know how it works. One problem I see is that the blade attachment is 90deg from that of a fixed wing plane folding propeller. Is there a way to change that by replacing spares or do I need to do modifications on the existing attachment? I will also look at it when I see a helicopter again. What rpm will such a tail rotor be able to turn at? Will it handle 20k rpm?
Thanks again for that info.
Mick Molloy
Jul 28, 2008, 02:26 AM
I think you would be up for some machining and some work on calculating laods... I didnt say it would be easy ;) ...
I have seen it done on smaller slow fly models. ... what saize blades are you thinking?
paintball_kidz
Jul 28, 2008, 02:34 AM
http://www.backyardflyer.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=17F3E50B054A4C1C9FDD81B36E52B522&nm=Site+Features&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=5CF9BBA802E44F26B262BE1C6468552A
Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4425979/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm
this was the only one i found, it was invented by eddie weeks, but i dont think the sells them anymore you can try pming him on rcuniverse, hes still active. i know they were $650 each
rebell
Jul 28, 2008, 08:40 AM
... what saize blades are you thinking? 6". A big helicopter's tail rotor assembly will be to big I think. I will work on the idea and see if something comes from it.
Thanks.
Mick Molloy
Jul 28, 2008, 07:18 PM
6". A big helicopter's tail rotor assembly will be to big I think. I will work on the idea and see if something comes from it.
Thanks.
6 " should be very easy ... try this combo as an example only..
http://www.wattsuprc.com.au/product_detail.asp?pid=HS1189-72
http://www.wattsuprc.com.au/product_detail.asp?pid=HS1200
http://www.aircraft-world.com/shopexd.asp?id=1252
Blades have 2 mm hole as does grips......
Only problem may be shaft Dia and length infront of motor
Mick Molloy
Jul 28, 2008, 07:24 PM
You would also need to make an adapter of the links on the grips to give you the correct angle and range of movement for reverse and forward pitch..
hoysome
Aug 01, 2008, 01:22 AM
I plan on using the main rotor head when I eventually get around to building one of theese for myself. Just replacing the hollow shaft with a 5mm shaft, and using the swash plate as a bearing to do just what its suposed to do, without the multiple directions.
Heather
Aug 02, 2008, 06:02 PM
I doubt that the 6" folding blades will take 20,000 rpm for very long.
Heather
Mick Molloy
Aug 02, 2008, 11:41 PM
I found out the align 5" ones dont like 23000 today the hard way... :o
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