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dhauch
Jul 06, 2008, 01:41 PM
just thought i would pass this along.
this is the best stuff i've ever used.
it also stays on longer then anything i've ever used, even takes some scrubbing to wash it off.
http://www.crownlaboratories.com/bluelizard/
i've been using the Blue Lizard sensitive.
it's chemical free, and fragance free.
i tan real easy, and i barely have a tan this year since i've been using it, so i know it's doing it's job.
not the case with everything else i've ever tried.
dave
www.rc-builds.com
jtlsf5
Jul 06, 2008, 02:45 PM
just thought i would pass this along.
this is the best stuff i've ever used.
it also stays on longer then anything i've ever used, even takes some scrubbing to wash it off.
http://www.crownlaboratories.com/bluelizard/
i've been using the Blue Lizard sensitive.
it's chemical free, and fragance free.
i tan real easy, and i barely have a tan this year since i've been using it, so i know it's doing it's job.
not the case with everything else i've ever tried.
dave
www.rc-builds.com
Sorry, but this is patently untrue. The active ingredient in this stuff is Zinc Oxide, which is very definately a "chemical". To say that this formulation is "chemical free" is just not true. One might also consider that with the difficulty of getting it off, you are intimately exposing yourself to a chemical much more than the use of a sunscreen that will flush off with sweat.
The only real difference between Zinc Oxide and PABA-based (the other most common active ingredient of sunscreens) is their mode of action. Zinc Oxide is like a paste that you cover yourself with. It physically blocks the sunlight (hence no tanning). PABA-based compound (such as octyl dimethyl PABA) is an aromatic compound that filters out UV light by absorbing the UV and re-radiating it as something more harmless.
JT (PhD Organic Chemist)
dhauch
Jul 06, 2008, 02:57 PM
thx for the info.
so your saying this stuff doesn't block the UV rays at all, or just not as good as the other you mentioned ?
dh
jtlsf5
Jul 06, 2008, 04:42 PM
thx for the info.
so your saying this stuff doesn't block the UV rays at all, or just not as good as the other you mentioned ?
dh
No, it does block UV, but by a different mechanism. Zinc oxide is the white stuff our mothers used to put on our noses to keep them from burning at the beach (for those old enough to remember).
Think of Zinc Oxide as a washable layer of paint. It physically blocks the UV and any light from contact with the skin. The PABA based sunscreens are a chemical filter that actually absorb UV light.
Both work, just differently. I just think you should know that the Lizard stuff is based on a chemical.
JT
kwmtrubrit
Jul 07, 2008, 12:18 AM
I have a condition called Vitiligo. Basically, I have no melanin/pigment. This first showed its ugly head during my late teens/early twenties in England. It started out as a white area around the top of my fingernails and progressed to looking like a Jersey cow (sun tanned and white marks) to being completely white. This process has taken almost forty years. Being a person that enjoys fishing, playing at golf and this fantastic hobby/life changing experience, the sensitivity to sun is a major issue. I have heard of dermatologists saying that anything over 30spf sunscreen is no different than the protection given by 30spf. That may be so for an individual with melanin, but without, forget about it. The sunscreen I use is Coppertone SPORT 50spf lotion. I can be out for hours on end and not get a touch of a burn. Without it, I'm red in fifteen mins. I did try the spray this past weekend. Same spf as the lotion but it didn't work for me. I can get better controlled coverage with the lotion, plus there's a lot of wastage (over spray) with the spray. I used almost half a can on my legs, arms and neck/face, and still got a little pink. Hey Coppertone, need a posterboy?
Keith
Mark Miller
Jul 07, 2008, 10:05 AM
http://cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/index.php
Well, very interesting. My highly advertised Neutrogena isn't even
on their list, or so far down I couldn't find it and it has the
oxybenzene bad news as discussed. So --
dhauch
Jul 07, 2008, 10:22 AM
Mark, great site, thx!
dh
http://cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/index.php
Well, very interesting. My highly advertised Neutrogena isn't even
on their list, or so far down I couldn't find it and it has the
oxybenzene bad news as discussed. So --
kwmtrubrit
Jul 07, 2008, 10:33 AM
Man, Coppertone sucks. Back to the drawing board I guess.
IBWALT
Jul 28, 2008, 02:10 PM
I gave Blue Lizard for the face 30+ a try and it is now my favorite sun block. It is non greasy (to me at least) and has not run into my eyes and caused watering and irritation like a lot of other sun blocks that I have tried. It is a little hard to find and somewhat on the expensive side but it works for me. Thanks for the tip Dave.
Walt
dharban
Jul 28, 2008, 03:59 PM
I use Bullfrog Gel. I have never liked lotions which are gooey and greasy. The Gels are alcohol based -- they kind of take your breath away when you apply them, but they dry and then work well.
The first time I used this stuff was in the Florida Keys on a tarpon fishing trip in July. I fished for two days solid in the sun in bare feet on the deck of a flats skiff. At the end of the two days, the tan lines from my sandals were still there and the areas which were usually covered stayed unburned (and untanned).
Happy Landings,
Don
bjr_93tz
Jul 28, 2008, 06:00 PM
[QUOTE=jtlsf5]PABA-based compound (such as octyl dimethyl PABA) is an aromatic compound that filters out UV light by absorbing the UV and re-radiating it as something more harmless.QUOTE]
So I should be using this stuff on my DLG wings and any other surfaces with exposed/visible Aramid fibres ???? :)
Brett
dhauch
Jul 28, 2008, 06:42 PM
I gave Blue Lizard for the face 30+ a try and it is now my favorite sun block. It is non greasy (to me at least) and has not run into my eyes and caused watering and irritation like a lot of other sun blocks that I have tried. It is a little hard to find and somewhat on the expensive side but it works for me. Thanks for the tip Dave.
Walt
Glad you liked it Walt.
I just order it from the site i listed on #1 post.
Seems like just a little goes a long way too.
Your right, it's not greasy, and it doesn't wear off.
dave
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