For Those interested in looking

[rlboats2003]

Now that the dust has hit the floor and it look like things are coming together I felt that I would like to share the following with you guys that I and many others go back and forth with. I took the plunge and if you are interested please go to the following address http://www.hartmanmodelboats.com and click on the Introduction Section and see what you think.

Happy Modeling,
Rich

[Aerominded]

I was just at the hartman site earlier today before you posted this thread and read that! I was wondering if the new partner was you, congratulations! (and thanks for your commitment to keeping production in the U.S.A.)

Are the boats in the online catalogue ready to order/ship? :)

[TRWXXA]

Alright!!!

Are the boats in the online catalogue ready to order/ship? :)
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[towboatjoe]

Hey Rich, Haven't seen ya since the Toledo show. Glad you got things workwise.
Joe

[rlboats2003]

Just a quick status

We moved Hartman Mothers Day week end from Ill. to its WNY location.
Currently the catalog is in proof reading and there are a couple internet write up to be posted. A short term fiberglass shop is near completion for production while the long term shop is being built. The molds, mat templetes and drawings ect have been sorted by boat mold.

The preordered catalogs should be shipping with in 2 weeks, it will be about 50 pages long and look like a catalog. (not as big as a Loyalhanna Dockyard 2 volume set but give HMB some time) The AMYA class boats, we are waiting on finding out what needs to be done for recertification of the Maufactuer and the EC12 we have to arrange to obtain the EC12 master mold. You will also notice a new addition to the cataloge the Olympia - this was a traditional pond sailer made for RC - from what I gathered it was Dwights first boat mold that he sold to an individual. While picking up Hartman and ask if we would be interested in it, the rest is history.

You can order now - your credit card will not be charged until the order is ready or I beleive when the preordered catalogs are out - it will be time to place an order and obtain a reasonable delivery date.

That is a resonable status of Hartman Model Boats - right know I have the Diane (real Steam Launch) and the Clayton Thoms (dogulas greg tug) in the basement for referb for shows (the clayton needs the most work) Will be starting the How to Build a Fiberglass Boat for the website starting in August. And already looking at some new North American Subjects for Releases I really out of daily sales and information - but will be doing market research/new product development - So if you have a north american watercraft you think would make a great modeling subject let Don and Renee know on your next conversation on e-mail and they will forward it, I will be keeping track of the information - I want Hartman Model Boats not to be what Rich wants to make but what you want to see as long as it is a north american prototype.

Towboat - My real Job settled down, got a new Director, better than the old director, Based on our new direction as a company might have do some european travel to confirm and improve Quality Systems at business/manufacturing sites. Things are going well, Hope the same for you.

Hope this information works for those interested in Hartman Model Boats, a division of Loyalhanna Dockyard, Rich

[gpzy]

Some old Hartman pics, b/w one is a pic, top right hand sideisHe of Dwight Hartman himself circa 1973. He is holding a harbor tug.

[blckgnx]

Congrats Rich,
Its great to see somone interested enough to keep the old traditions alive and add the new technology! Good luck to you and your'e family.
PS-I'd bet a lot of people would dearly love to see a fiberglass version of the old favorite Chris Craft 63 footer!! You'd have my vote and order! Ron

[rlboats2003]

Out there where the big train loop is - Some one already makes a 63 footer - Chuck Steffen fro the Wisc Model boaters. There are a couple of guys on the web from that club - I bet if you pm Prien and a ferw others that have identifed them selves as Wisconson (misspelled) model boater or did some searching for their website you will come up with some one - Chuck will also put in contact with a couple other guys that make fitting sets ect. We have on guy in our club that is using one of chucks hulls and various other people stuff that he found though this contact. If you are serious PM me and I will send you his address and telephone number.

Happy modeling,
Rich

[rlboats2003]

Out there where the big train loop is - Some one already makes a 63 footer - Chuck Steffen fro the Wisc Model boaters. There are a couple of guys on the web from that club - I bet if you pm Prien and a ferw others that have identifed them selves as Wisconson (misspelled) model boater or did some searching for their website you will come up with some one - Chuck will also put in contact with a couple other guys that make fitting sets ect. We have on guy in our club that is using one of chucks hulls and various other people stuff that he found though this contact. If you are serious PM me and I will send you his address and telephone number.

Happy modeling,
Rich

[LONGBIKE]

rlboats2003,

Where did you guys come up with my pictures that I took of my Cheryl Rene tug for your Douglas Greg in the catalog?

I wrote an e-mail to Rene but she did not respond at all, I told her that I didn't mind but she could of at least responded to my questions. Or give me some recognition on the build.

Longbike

[rlboats2003]

I have to beleive the pictures are from one of two sources a) posted pictures of the St. Louis Admirals Regetta's over time b) some orginal pictures form the limited goup of orginal pictures received from those in the possession of Dwight's estate. Sorry for not giving credit - there was nothing written on the back of the pictures or if it was an Admrials regetta it was not visiable or only a numbered entry disk, I have to believe of judging.

Have a good day,
Rich

[LONGBIKE]

Ok, I did send him some pictures a couple years ago when I finish the build, I see now Where they came from Thanks! I was just thinking WOW where are all these pics gettting to, To end up on your new catalog pics.

This is the tread on that tug.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506551
Longbike

[Aerominded]

On the topic of pictures on the site, Re: the Malabar, one of the pictures there is not of a Malabar but of a Grand Banks Schooner (picture of boat without bowsprit) not being nit-picky, just curius if that hull is in the Hartman collection... I'm interested in adding a GB schooner like that to the fleet (not a Bluenose)

Thanks!

[der kapitan]

Rich,

I understand that Don is going to build a dedicated fiberglass workshop, and that he has a temporary one put together. Is he in production yet? ;)

[rlboats2003]

Aero - When I proofed the catalog on Friday night I found a couple of mistakes one the one you noticed and have replaced it with a real malabar picture under sail. Also replaced the Bluenose II model with an actual Bluenose II picture.
Did a couple final wording changes too. Right the catalogs are being produced and shiiped out to the pre - purchasers one complete the website will be updated.

Der Kap
We are getting very close.

Have a great modeling experiance,
Rich

[rlboats2003]

I had no idea the NYCl tug was yours - thanks for the thread - the interesting thing - I didn't have those pictures in my position and realized they did come from the estate. Don and Renee (Mr and Mrs Loyalhanna Dockyard) used them since they knew I was a Railroad Tug nut. You really capatured the feel of the end of steam with the faded PC century paint job of about 1967-68. I know in the future I will build up one of these tugs - yours is a real inspiration - Just got to get the pilot house up another 6-8 scale feet and loose the cabin. I think instead of doing a RR tug I might try to make one look more like a former Standard Oil of NY tug the Pegasus of New York, Pamela H, her capitan gave us (my wife and me) the over the boat for a photo shoot in the spring of 2003 when she was getting the hull redone to make her sound again.
Again - thanks for a great thread.
Rich

[LONGBIKE]

Thanks Rich,

That tug was my fav. Then a client I build for now offered me $4000.00 for it and I took it, but selling it just still hasn't settle in my stomach yet.

But I still have 2 more unfinished Hartman tug kits on hand!

Here is another Hartman tug I built for a member of our club. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615987

Jeff

[Aerominded]

Aero - When I proofed the catalog on Friday night I found a couple of mistakes one the one you noticed and have replaced it with a real malabar picture under sail.

Again, wasn't looking for mistakes... :o Just hoping that tooling for that GB schooner hull is somewhere in the Hartman stash and may one day be available- Looing for a typical, 'late model' Lunnenburg N.S. type- The one that was pictured has it nailed- :)

[green-boat]

One thing that I noticed on the new Hartman site was that the picture of the Monterey Clipper pictured is Ken Valks' from Wet Goose. His hull is about 6" longer than Dwight's Clipper hull.

[rlboats2003]

Well your the second person who identifed this as the Ken Valks model - the reality is with a limited pictue base I looked for a representative model or real boat. Started with the real boats but most of them are bright colored and missing all the hardware that gives them the "look". Searched through my 8 gig flash drive of real and model boat pictures and found a group of six shots that were representative of the look of the "boat" model or real. The reality is outside of the same style hull, there were no two that looked alike. I found more pictures as I researched for the catalog / website and found everything from what looked like a modified tow boat cabin to a modified Maine Lobster boat - but these pictures were the best representation of a 1920-1930's Clipper when matched aganist the Clipper drawings.

Not being from the West Coasts I have limited Access to information and it has only been recently that West Coasts subjects have become interesting. In 2004 was in Reno for six weeks and was trying to schedule enough time to get to SF for a Weekend to hit the maritime places and lighthouses, but it just didn't happen. I think what is going to have to happen is take the Frequent flyer miles for Northwest and take my wife with me for a week in the near future and just do it. Besides west coast light house and boats have a very different look then east and great lake boats and lights.

Happy modeling
Rich