Diarama's for boats

[Ironman929]

I was gonna build a diarama for my PT boat so I can display it when not in use. I was thinking of doing a drydock look. Something simple, timbers across the bottom and stakes up for support with felt pads to rest on.
Anyone else build something like this?

[Kmot]

I did not build this but I found the pictures when I was doing some internet research a few years ago for my PT boat:

[Hoghappy]

That has to be one of the coolest diarama's I've seen! :cool:

Capt. Crash

[Greg W]

check out http://www.geocities.com/y2patmat/ It's a good site with picture/drawings of actual pt shipping carriages.

[papower]

Tom, I think that is located at mystic seaport. I have some pics also. Including a restored PT engine (NOT motor!!!)
Bruce

[Kmot]

That has to be the same diorama! Thanks for the extra pics! :)

[Ghost 2501]

well on the subject of diaramas, I did a river scene with a cargo ship.

here's the build log

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7542736#post7542736

[Ironman929]

Wow, you guys are thinking alittle overboard here(MAN OVERBOARD :D ).
I was just thinking a simple old style drydock, with blocks and timbers to hold it up, not having it directly touch the base. Look at the pics and you can get an idea what I was thinking about.

[patmat2350]

...PT engine (NOT motor!!!)
Bruce

What do they make at General Motors?

[papower]

Pat, When I was in auto trade school one of the first things they drilled into our heads was to call an engine an engine. I get peeved watching all of the so called pros on TV repair/resto shows calling engines "motors". I was tought that we have internal combustion ENGINES and electric MOTORS. So in my book calling an engine a motor is a no no :D
Bruce

[patmat2350]

I know, I know, just enjoy pushing various buttons!
I put this in the same category as the argument over whether a ship is a "vessel" or not...:confused:

[Ghost 2501]

ironman, having a "dry dock" is ok, BUT it will mean you have to be careful about crew placement, by having a hole cut in some wood and a "sea" put around it will give you extra scope.

[patmat2350]

This picture comes from another related thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1168481

http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/attachments/4/9/6/5/9/a1168481-251-stand02.jpg

[Ironman929]

This picture comes from another related thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1168481

http://static.rcgroups.com/forums/attachments/4/9/6/5/9/a1168481-251-stand02.jpg
Ya that's the idea i'm going for. something simple but can be used for display in my house.

[Ironman929]

I can across this at a local shipyard. Not was I was gonna do but interesting to see what little holds a boat up.

[Ironman929]

So here's what I have done so far. It's just to make it look like it's in drydock. When I have to take it to the lake, I'll use a craddle with foam.
I'll encase it in glass to keep the dust off of it between taking it to the lake.

[mr.boat]

looking good, Ironman. :)

I might make one myself, given time.

[quicksilver]

there was this diarama I found a while back

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782702

[Kmot]

Ironman: that looks superb! Well done!

[Ironman929]

Well I stained it and then added some paint marks(like it was touched up). Now I just have to make the lexan case.

[Radek2]

why are there no watter diarama stands just wax your hull pour some epoxy or resin in a box with some blue additive and cavasil swirl some waves before it kicks off and pop the hull out. now there would be a perfect fit stand

[CG Bob]

Ironman - the cradle looks good. The diagonal support pieces have a minor problem where they meet the base - they're cut to a chisel point, they should be cut with a right angle instead. Take a look a stair stringer and you'll get the idea.

just wax your hull pour some epoxy or resin in a box with some blue additive and cavasil swirl some waves before it kicks off and pop the hull out. now there would be a perfect fit stand From your description, it sounds like the entire hull will be encased in the epoxy or resin. Generally, you have to work the epoxy or resin in thin layers like 1/8" - 1/4" thick. The epoxy idea is pretty fatal with a plastic (vac formed or molded styrene) hull, as the curing epoxy heats up and melts the plastic hull; it may not be the best idea with a fiberglass hull either. Flooding the hull with ice water will eliminate some heat induced problems.

I've seen a few "water" display stands custom made for each boat. Some of the best I saw were in Milwaukee, when I was in the Wisconsin Scale Boatong Association (http://www.wiscaleboat.org/index.htm). Bob Stewart would carefully cut plexiglass to fit around the hull. Most of Bob's model were static display, so they were usualy attached to the plexiglass. One of the more impressive models he did was the steamer Erie Hackley which sank in Green Bay. He made a beautiful model of the Hackley underway, inserted into the plexiglass. The overboard discharge was done by dripping plastic cement onto a piece of monafilament fishline curved between the hull and the water. The bow wave was worked in with some acrylic casting resin, as was the wake and prop wash. About a foot below the underway Hackley is the wrecked version - resting in the mud bottom of Green Bay. Bob also did a very nice model of the Schooner ROUSE SIMMONS, aka "The Christmas Tree Ship", unloading trees at a pier in
Chicago.

[Prins Willem]

CG Bob,

These look familiar?

[Aerominded]

those are neat, Prins!

[CG Bob]

Prins,

Those do bring back some wonderful memories. Another one of Bob's models I also enjoyed was the carferry (CHIEF WAWATAM?) in the ice, just to the right of the Hackley.

[Prins Willem]

CG Bob,

Here are a few more images for your memory lane trip. That wasn't the Chief. I wasn't sure which C&O boat it was until I pulled my Pictorial History of the C&O Train and Auto Ferries and looked it up. It should be the City of Saginaw 31 (see picture). I also included a few of Bob's other models. The G Tug Kenosha and Minnie Selvick are in dioramas(next to docks). The Hennipin is R/C and one he ran a lot at events. General FYI: Hennepin was the world's first self unloader.

Bill

[Prins Willem]

CG Bob,

I stand corrected. We had a meeting tonight so I asked Terry Bruce about it. Bob Stewart did the City of Flint 32, Terry did the City of Saginaw 31. BTW, Terry's 1/48 City of Midland is in Wisconsin Maritime Museum's ship model gallery.

[afwing]

Sir i have a set of drawings for a cradle for a 70' pt. i downloaded them but i dont know where. if you want them e-mail me at bbowing@hotmail.com thanks

[Ironman929]

So here is my end result. Simple, keeps the dust off and looks like(well it does to me) something from a museum.