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Flyboone
Mar 06, 2008, 03:40 PM
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HLA110 6 Foot "Telemaster Electro" ARF
73-1/4" wingspan, 53-1/2" long, 848 sq. in. wing area, 88 oz. flying weight, 15 oz. per sq. ft. wing loading. Hundreds of modelers have had their first successful flying experience with a Telemaster, and many beginners have successfully flown a Telemaster 40 without assistance. With Telemaster Electro, all the things that made Telemaster 40 great are there but now in Almost Ready to Fly form. It’s set up for AXI OUTRUNNER power (more powerful and no temperamental and messy glow motor to deal with). We wish that we could build a model this well; the construction is as though you had a Telemaster kit custom built for you. We insisted the plane be built up with stick longerons, not the light ply sheeting you find in other ARF planes. The motor mount is installed, ready for an AXI 2826/12 motor with a radial mount; the battery box is installed, ready for either 8-10 cell NiCad or NiMH batteries or a 3 cell Lipo pack. The access hatch for the battery is built and the magnetic latch pre-installed. Photo-illustrated instructions are included showing step-by-step how the model is assembled, including the addition of optional flaps (servo location in wing is pre-installed). For 4 channels: Ailerons (2 servos), Elevator, Rudder and Throttle, Flaps (2 servos) are optional.
For more information and to watch the video click HERE (http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster6.htm?c1=ezone&source=trd&kw=6fttele)
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edge5foamy
Mar 06, 2008, 04:22 PM
Here are the pics of my 6ft Telemaster Electro (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=804736)
I set up a removable bomb drop on the bottom of mine, and found some nice parachute men at the local $1 store.
I am currently working on setting mine up for night flying. After I do that I will also be able to do some night time air drops! I do that by taking a key-chain type LED, and taping it around the parachute men facing up, when I drop it the chute opens up, and the LED makes the chute glow!
Azarr
Mar 07, 2008, 10:10 AM
Jason,
I've thought about one of these for a while, but what keeps me from buying one is the rubber banded on wings. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. You should consider changing this to a bolt on wing, otherwise it looks like a great plane. Flew one at a fly in somewhere (don't remember where) it was fun.
Azarr
www.ecubedrc.com
jbrooks02
Mar 07, 2008, 09:16 PM
My Telemaster is still my favorite to fly Plane. Have been flying it with skis of late, can't wait to put the wheels back on. Picture enclosed, the 4 1/2" wheels handle the rough field with no problem. John
Rickochet
Mar 08, 2008, 06:27 PM
Hi Flyboone,
I have been looking at the Telemasters for some time. The flying videos are very impressive.
It would seem that you offer most Telemaster models in kit form but not the 6'. I enjoy the build process as much as the flying and really don't want an ARF. Is there any chance a 6' kit might be made available or even plans/instructions for a scratch build?
Rick
jbrooks01
Mar 08, 2008, 11:46 PM
Hi Flyboone,
I have been looking at the Telemasters for some time. The flying videos are very impressive.
It would seem that you offer most Telemaster models in kit form but not the 6'. I enjoy the build process as much as the flying and really don't want an ARF. Is there any chance a 6' kit might be made available or even plans/instructions for a scratch build?
Rick
Rick: The Telemaster 40 is A kit and it is the same as the 6' Telemaster Electro. John
Rickochet
Mar 09, 2008, 10:37 AM
Rick: The Telemaster 40 is A kit and it is the same as the 6' Telemaster Electro. John
Thanks John, I feel like a fool, but then I am used to it so no biggie. :D
I have passed over that model a bunch of times. I guess the Telemaster 40 name is a bit misleading. I wonder why they don't name the Telemaster 6' ARF as the Telemaster 40 ARF? But, alas, they are out of stock until late March. :(
Rick
Flyboone
Mar 09, 2008, 11:36 PM
Hi Rick,
We're working very hard to get those kits back in stock. It won't be much longer. The ARF version we named 6' Telemaster Electro because it is a purpose built electric only airplane. Calling it the same as the Telemaster 40 kit would be misleading although the dimensions and most of the construction is the same. We have a lot of backorders in for the Tele 40 kit, so I would go ahead and get one on order to make sure you get in on this next shipment. We don't charge your card until it ships out. Have Fun!
Thanks,
Jason Cole
Hobby-Lobby
MrEpoxy
Apr 22, 2008, 02:28 AM
Hi all,
I would like to known if the 6 foot telemaster electro ARF is easily converted to glow?
ty
Yellowspider
Apr 27, 2008, 09:39 PM
Flybone is right, I have a original TM 40 glow converted to e-power. Without looking at HLs specs I am sure the glow version is a bit heavier. I use a AXI 4130/16 with a 15x8 APC prop and 6s 4000Mah Lipo. Yes it has awesome power and can carry a video camera too. The flaps really slow her down for some great shots as she just hangs there and floats around. I love doing one wheeled touch and gos. LOL! everybody makes them OHHHH!! sounds as I roll the runway on one wheel for like 30 yards. They are just waiting for me to hit my wing tip.
Yellowspider
PS HL is my fav site and hobby dealer.
pedestrian
May 12, 2008, 01:42 PM
How much does the model weigh without batteries/servos/etc?
Also, I may have gone a little overboard, but I'll just ask.
Is this an appropriate setup or did I go overboard and overweight? :D
6' Telemaster Electric ARF
10000 mah 3S LiPo @ 600grams & perhaps too large @ 59mm X 155mm X 35mm (4200 3S LiPo is 299grams ish)
TURNIGY TR35-48-A (1100 Kv, unknown weight, compares to AXI 2826 models)
TURNIGY 80A Plush BEC/ESC
Six HS-322HD Servos
Corona 8ch RCV
Highride
Jun 11, 2008, 05:21 PM
Jason...
I've been looking at the 6 ft Telemaster for a while. I've read some reviews and have learned as much as I can at this point.
One thing that I can't seem to find is a description of the covering. Is matching covering available for repairs?
David
Flyboone
Jun 11, 2008, 05:40 PM
Hi David,
The covering material used on the Tele Electro does not match the covering material that we sell. I do not know if other covering brands would match it or not. I've seen repairs that used solid white to cover up the patch and looked pretty good. Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Jason Cole
Hobby Lobby
Highride
Jun 11, 2008, 06:33 PM
Jason,
Thanks. I'm not a neat freak, but...
I like my stuff to look nice <smile>. We have a guy in our club who is a master with trim, etc so he could help in case I do an "oops". I intend on putting in flaps so I was concerned with getting that done so as not to spoil the finish.
Thanks again,
Dave
Hum5alot
Jul 03, 2008, 10:07 PM
Jason, or any one ----- HELP
I need to find a roll of transparent red to recover a large Boo-Boo on my six foot Electro. Suggestions Please!!!
Tony
Pilatuspc12
Aug 25, 2008, 12:18 PM
Someone, on a previous Electro Telemaster thread said they had used Transparent Red Monokote and it was very compatible.
Good Luck :)
Felthamg
Nov 22, 2008, 09:39 PM
I've been wondering,
can you hand launch telemasters of this size?
thanks
John O'Sullivan
Dec 28, 2008, 06:43 PM
The Electro Telemaster is one fine airplane at an unbeatable price.
As one who has designed and built my own airplanes for nearly 60 years, I have been slow to accept ready-to-fly models. However seeing that I can obtain a RTF for less dollars than the materials would cost, not to count my building time, I am impressed. I have an Electro Telemaster flying with a Chinese Axi 2826/12 equivalent and am highly impressed. I also recently purchased locally, an unflown Senior Telemaster. Gear (4130/12 Axi equivalent going in). Am just as impressed with this model.
They will add significantly to my airphoto and video fleet.
A couple of modifications I made to the Electro Telemaster were
1) I suspected the ply wing joiners were marginal in size and replaced the centre ply piece with unidirectional carbon fibre of equivalent thickness.
2) I noticed that the upper longerons terminated at the tailplane leading edge and were butt joined with the rear longeron portion. This would create a weak joint at this point. I rectified this by adding a 3/32 x 1/2" basswood doubler on the inside of each longeron, straddling the butt joint.
Other than these minor points I have found the Electro Telemaster to satisfy my expectations for this model.
I have no reservation in recommending both of these wonderful models.
Hand Launch!! -No problem.
John O'Sullivan
annarelli
Jan 04, 2009, 04:18 PM
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A couple of modifications I made to the Electro Telemaster were
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2) I noticed that the upper longerons terminated at the tailplane leading edge and were butt joined with the rear longeron portion. This would create a weak joint at this point. I rectified this by adding a 3/32 x 1/2" basswood doubler on the inside of each longeron, straddling the butt joint.
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John O'Sullivan
Funny you should mention this issue. I had a bad experience with this very joint. Fortunately, HobbyLobby (the best online hobby shop on the planet) helped me with the issue. Here's a post from our club's website:
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana, The Life of Reason, Volume 1 1905
It was a cold, semi-calm day at the cul-de-sac. B The Man, Charrua, Doc, and Jlow all came to help me learn to land the Telemaster, and to fly whatever they had with them. I for one appreciated the input, although it is easier to concentrate when only two or three people are yelling directions at you at the same time. Takeoff was a little unusual, and I blame it on Jlow for parking the Bentley (which everyone knows is a magnet for near-disaster) right near where we were flying. I didn't know it at the time, but that was the beginning of a theme...
I was flying to be sure, but it was not pretty. About what I had been experiencing the first two times I flew the Telemaster. B The Man took the controls and trimmed out the plane. MUCH BETTER! Jlow - who has the most experience with Telemasters - gave me some good pointers. First, I was flying WAY too fast. Second, I was flying WAY too wide. Turns out that if you cut the speed in half, you can fly in a lot smaller space. Who knew?
On to the landings. This is where I thought I needed help - the previous lessons not withstanding. After a few exciting attempts, I began to get the hang of lining up at the right altitude at the right speed at the right place. They weren't all that bad, and I may have greased one or two. Things were looking up - or so it seemed.
B The Man took the controls for awhile and shot a touch 'n go. VERY nice! We'd been flying for maybe 10 minutes on an electric, and really didn't know how much time we had left (literally), so were talking about bringing her in. Jlow wanted to try a few stunts first, so he got the controls.
Jlow showed his experience with the Telemaster model. He hadn't flown it as an electric. Executed a few rolls - again, very nice. Then he said something I'll never forget: "I think I'll stir the tanks."
We all looked at each other. Stir the tanks? It hung in the air, almost like a baloon over a cartoon figure. Stir the tanks - it grabbed us in our gut. Stir the tanks - the sophisticated version of "hey y'all, watch this"; Stir the tanks - isn't that code for blowing part of the ship apart? We all saw Apollo 13, and we remember the scene. B The Man tried to yank the controls out of Jlow's hands. Doc was climbing over B The Man's back trying to get there first. Charrua pull out some Central American weapon made of sticks and leather that looked like it would end Jlow's chances of ever becoming a father again. I was frozen in my tracks, trying hard to make sense of the scene. And then it happened. For no apparent reason, Jlow jettisoned the tail feathers. Just blew 'em off the back of the plane. Intact. It was surreal. The rear stab spun top over bottom, while the rudder kept it from falling to one side or the other. Staring at it was almost... relaxing. Hypnotic, actually. The rest of the plane, however, was having none of it. As you probably know, on the Telemaster, the stab is a flying wing. This means that while the plane lost weight in the back, it also lost lift. To a certain extent they counteract each other. Of course, control was also lost. We debated afterwards if it would have been possible, with the controls available, to somehow avoid catastrophy. Maybe if Jlow had deployed the flaps, or adjusted power, or something. Of course, none of this was possible, because we had already beaten Jlow into a shallow grave, and were looking for debris to hide the body.
The crash occurred in slow motion, and it's a real shame we didn't get it on video. It's not the kind of thing you see every day. Cars were stopped on the highway. News crews were watching in wonder. Several schools sent busloads of students to watch the carnage. The best part was the tail parachuting down to earth - if we'd been closer we could have caught it. It was a total loss, and while rebuilding looks possible, it would take skills beyond what I possess. Besides, after we divided up what Jlow had in his wallet, I had enough to order a replacement.
Back to HobbyLobby for another Telemaster. Back in the air in two weeks. See you then!
Grampa Tony
skypan12
Jan 07, 2009, 02:35 AM
What a story, I am looking at getting this plane for fun I have plenty of experience but like to get my hands on a nice flying plane like this once and a while I am new to electric so this should be a great addition to the heard.
FiremanBill
Feb 17, 2009, 10:26 AM
I have this one now and flew it for the first time last Saturday. All I can say is WOW! This is one cool bird!
I picked up at our club swap meet, used but in like new condition. It has the recommended Axi motor and Jeti ESC. I am running a great planes 3s 5000 mah 20c pack and Spektrum radio gear.
No flaps, but I may put them in, don't need them but it would add to the cool factor for sure. :D :cool:
skypan12
Feb 17, 2009, 03:03 PM
Looks good I have mine ready to go and have the flaps on it I am waiting for better weather to do the maiden flight on it.
Rickochet
Feb 17, 2009, 03:42 PM
I have this one now and flew it for the first time last Saturday. All I can say is WOW! This is one cool bird!
I picked up at our club swap meet, used but in like new condition. It has the recommended Axi motor and Jeti ESC. I am running a great planes 3s 5000 mah 20c pack and Spektrum radio gear.
No flaps, but I may put them in, don't need them but it would add to the cool factor for sure. :D :cool:
I have been looking at one of these for quite awhile. I have some 4sA123 2300mAh I thought about running 2 packs parallel. How easy is it to change battery packs? Is there a hatch or do you have to remove the wing?
FiremanBill
Feb 17, 2009, 04:48 PM
I have been looking at one of these for quite awhile. I have some 4sA123 2300mAh I thought about running 2 packs parallel. How easy is it to change battery packs? Is there a hatch or do you have to remove the wing?
Very easy. There is a hatch on top of the fuse just behind the motor. No wing removal required.
bobsoar
Jun 05, 2009, 07:09 PM
Can I use a Magnun 52RFS 4 cycle gas engine for this plane ?
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