Thunder Tiger E620 SE Build Thread ** build is done and pics:D

[helitaiwan963]

Hey everyone,

I was very lucky to get a Thunder Tiger E620SE kit. :D I noticed there was no kind of E620SE thread in Rcgroups so if I may, I'd like to do a build thread of one. Once i recieve the heli, I will build it and snap pictures on the way of the build. I can't wait! I will post setup when i receive the actual heli.


It's HERE!!!!! :cool:

Attached are the pictures of the "opening of the box"




Later
Eric :D

[helitaiwan963]

The Build STARTS:D :rolleyes: :cool:

I hope doing this helps the builders out there:D finless does a video too of the build but the manual is nice so i had to watch the head setup one but that's it:D


More to come ;)


Later
Eric:D

[helitaiwan963]

This is the last part of the build. Includes pictures of the finished heli.

[RC Man]

Glad to see another E620 fan. I have been working on converting a nitro powered Raptor 50 to a E620. This will be my second E620 and I plan on using all the latest technology advances (Spartan Gyro, Futaba brushless servos).


Looking forward to reading your build log.




:) :cool:

[helitaiwan963]

Glad to see another E620 fan. I have been working on converting a nitro powered Raptor 50 to a E620. This will be my second E620 and I plan on using all the latest technology advances (Spartan Gyro, Futaba brushless servos).


Looking forward to reading your build log.




:) :cool:
Thanks:D I can't wait to recieve mine. Weather is horrible up here in IL now, How is it in central IL? I just finished shoveling the snow and wow... it's WET which = heavy:'(

Later
ERic

[RC Man]

Weather is horrible up here in IL now, How is it in central IL? I just finished shoveling the snow and wow... it's WET which = heavy:'(

Later
ERic

A foot of snow … thunderstorms … melted snow … high winds … more snow tonight.

My goal is to get it built, setup, and a few short test flights by mid March when the weather usually gets better. The E620 can handle winds very well – this time of year it’s more of a pilot limitation than a helicopter limitation.

:cool:

[ozace]

Looking forward to it, as a great all round platform that is durable and robust the E raptors are it. Maybe not quite as light as some but for many they do very very well at the right price.

Waiting for pics :) (i am surprised that none of us did a thread when they came out :confused: )

[helitaiwan963]

Looking forward to it, as a great all round platform that is durable and robust the E raptors are it. Maybe not quite as light as some but for many they do very very well at the right price.

Waiting for pics :) (i am surprised that none of us did a thread when they came out :confused: )
hehe:D Nice. I'm looking forward to it:D It'll be a slow build for me cus I need to save up and buy the electronics piece by piece:'( LOL. So far, i have the heli kit, and the CF blades and a few "upgrades". I read and heard about some of the fly apart tail hubs so one of the reccomended upgrades 1st to get was the

THUNDER TIGER SUS TAIL HUB I got mine from Grand RC as well as a few other parts i got from them.

I'll do a "finless" type of thing but with pics:D Opening the box, etc. HEHE.

Feel free to post pics and setups and vids of your E620's I sorta like how my King2 thread is running and hoping this can be a lesurly thread but with control too:D :rolleyes:



later
Eric

[helitaiwan963]

I posted some of the pictures I took of me opening the box. My 600mm Carbon fiber main blades should be here tomorrow waiting at the door for me when i come home from school:D Tomorrow is friday that means THE BUILD STARTS!!!!:D

Also, what kinda loctite you guys would recommend for a 50 sized electric? I've always just used purple, is that enough or would blue be the way to go?

[chrise2]

Good Lord that's large! What kind of batteries does that sucker take? those must cost a pretty penny. I'd cry for 3 days if I puffed one!

[helitaiwan963]

Good Lord that's large! What kind of batteries does that sucker take? those must cost a pretty penny. I'd cry for 3 days if I puffed one!
:D I plan on going A123 or 12S Lipo. A 15S A123 would be around 160-170 for me building it and getting allt he connectors and wires for it. A lipo 12S pack is around 400 dollars or more.

[WIIRED1]

Eric where do you get the cash to buy this stuff?!! That heli is soo cool

[Andrew McGregor]

Thunder tiger make excellent helis. Here's my Raptor 50 e-conversion.

Edit: Hmm, I have to take some better pictures than that…

[helitaiwan963]

Thunder tiger make excellent helis. Here's my Raptor 50 e-conversion.

Edit: Hmm, I have to take some better pictures than that…
Wow. I love that color scheme on it:D Must be SO easy to tell orientation. Frame design is a big different huh. Got any canopy off pix?

[Andrew McGregor]

I will when I get a moment to take some.

[xeispen]

That's one nice heli man. Are you gonna start the build soon or wait for the electronics?

[Andrew McGregor]

Here's some more of my Raptor 50 V1 for comparison (not trying ot hijack the thread here). Mini-Titan for scale comparison.

[helitaiwan963]

Here's some more of my Raptor 50 V1 for comparison (not trying ot hijack the thread here). Mini-Titan for scale comparison.
no way dude. I want all people to post pics here:D We all like to see everyone's setup. What hitecs do you have on there and how did you do the tail boom thing:D It'll really help me with orientation. I like it:D
Can you post your full setup? I only got the frame now and still wondering about servos and whatnot. I'll be doing the zpower 780kv motor with the HV85 CC esc for sure though. Servos is what i'm stuck on now, and what battereies are you using?

Builds under way, got the whole frame together with the skids. Took tons of pix on the way as a "how to" sorta thing. Got the washout and main gear and the swash on and installed too. All picture documented and i'll upload some tomorrow:D

Later
Eric

[Andrew McGregor]

Well, I don't actually know that much about this setup, especially the colour scheme, because I bought it used basically how you see it. The canopy has Cyberheli decals on the edge of the transparency, so I expect they made or painted it. The pics don't do justice to the fluro colours… that's fluro road cone orange and safety yellow!

I gather it's an Electarflight conversion. TPPacks.com have the nearest equivalent conversion set now.

The motor is a Hacker inrunner, can diameter is 35mm, length is 80mm. If it is indeed the B50-15L that I think it is, it's 1610 KV. This is a 5s setup, I'm using Hyperion 5s 3700 packs, and with a headspeed of 1850 RPM I get 14.5 minutes on 5s2p 3700, or about 8 minutes on 5s1p.

ESC is also Hacker, 48A. RX power is supplied by a UBEC.

Servos are Hitec HS-5475HB. Tail is a 401 and 9650. RX is a Spektrum AR7000, and I've been flying it with a DX7; it actually has not yet flown with my X9303.

[helitaiwan963]

Well, I don't actually know that much about this setup, especially the colour scheme, because I bought it used basically how you see it. The canopy has Cyberheli decals on the edge of the transparency, so I expect they made or painted it. The pics don't do justice to the fluro colours… that's fluro road cone orange and safety yellow!

I gather it's an Electarflight conversion. TPPacks.com have the nearest equivalent conversion set now.

The motor is a Hacker inrunner, can diameter is 35mm, length is 80mm. If it is indeed the B50-15L that I think it is, it's 1610 KV. This is a 5s setup, I'm using Hyperion 5s 3700 packs, and with a headspeed of 1850 RPM I get 14.5 minutes on 5s2p 3700, or about 8 minutes on 5s1p.

ESC is also Hacker, 48A. RX power is supplied by a UBEC.

Servos are Hitec HS-5475HB. Tail is a 401 and 9650. RX is a Spektrum AR7000, and I've been flying it with a DX7; it actually has not yet flown with my X9303.
wow...on 5s2p 3700mah you acn get 14 mins??:O 9650 is handling the tail well? also, how are those HS servos working out for you? are they digital ones?

[P-38J-Lightning]

Awsome Eric! Welcome to the club! ;) :p

I love mine :) Here's the set-up:

Z-Power Z50A-800
Castle Creations 85HV
15S A123
UBEC
9252's on Cyclic
611/9256 on the tail
Radix 600 Mains/92 Tails.

Flies amazing!

Joel :D

[oldeflyer]

P38,
what is the 'little' heli in your second picture? I like to get some idea of size of the bigger models. Always can use something for comparision.
What is the loaded voltage of your 15S A123?
Thanks.

963, looking forward to your posts.

[P-38J-Lightning]

The little helicopter is a Mini Titan E325 (450 Size heli) that is blinged out. (And now unfortunatly sold!)

I'm unsure of the loaded voltage of the A123's as I do not have a logger. All I know is when I put them on they are 54V. :D

High Voltage FTW!

Joel :D

P.S. The Mini Heli looks larger in that picture than it actually is due to the angle. The flybar goes about to the center or 1/4 of the boom heightwise.

[helitaiwan963]

OK, builds done, gonna go through the pics and see what ones i like,

I have a question though, i have 600mm blades on there, and it seems like it's pretty close to the tail blades...Doesn't this thing able to go up to 620mm main's? Or is it ok to overlap on this heli a little? I'm confused.

Also, anyone had a E620 kit missing a screw or two? or a little washer? Mine was missing one of the shims that go over the screw on the tail slider. Part number: PV0504. You can see there are the 2 things that go inside the bearings so the screw slides easiely, ANyone have one from a spare they got that they don't need? That is the only thing i had missing from my kit. Odd...

[xeispen]

Cool man. Can't wait to see the pics.

[Andrew McGregor]

wow...on 5s2p 3700mah you acn get 14 mins??:O 9650 is handling the tail well? also, how are those HS servos working out for you? are they digital ones?

Hitec digitals all have 4-digit numbers beginning in 5… so yes, those are digitals (off topic… the HS-5065MG is coming!) Tail hold is absolutely perfect, so far as my flying skills can beat up on it (bearing in mind I haven't flown that heli in quite a while).

And yes, it does get 14 minutes. That's a combination of a low-ish headspeed with a good governor and light weight (it's a full kilo lighter than a glow Raptor, although I can't remember exactly what it does weigh right now). But, it isn't set up for radical 3D power; it would do basic aerobatics fine, but there is a limit. The collective range is only 8.5° each way.

[helitaiwan963]

Hey guys, I added half of the pics up yesterday. LMK what you think. I got to the part where i finished putting the rotor head on the heli. :D



Later
Eric:D

[RC Man]

Another nice upgrade is to replace those plastic frame posts with metal ones PV0567. Then you can upgrade to all Stainless Steel Socket Head screws. I have never liked those Phillips head self-tapping screws.

[xeispen]

Very cool man. Can someone explain how 90* ccpm works? I've only used 120* eCCPM and I've never seen a 90* work before. :cool: :confused:

[RC Man]

Very cool man. Can someone explain how 90* ccpm works? I've only used 120* eCCPM and I've never seen a 90* work before. :cool: :confused:


The E620 uses either 90 degree or 140 degree eCCPM. Both reduce the famous eCCPM cyclic/collective interaction at control extremes that plaque 120 eCCPM designs. The 90 degree has one servo connected to each side of the swashplate and one connected to the front. JR engineered the 140 setup for their World Championships competation helicopters and is the best choice if your transmitter supports that option.

I first tried the 90 setup and it flies about the same as the 120 design. For 90% of helicopter flyers the stock 90 degree setup will feel the same as 120 or 140.

The E620 also has a real nice push pull control system, which feels a lot more solid than some of those direct link designs. All eCCPM helicopters are very dependent on the quality of the servos. I am now using the new Futaba brushless servos (BLS251 and BLS451). Be aware that the BLS251 takes a gyro capable of generating a narrow pulse like the Spartan DS760, GY601, GY611, and some CSM gyros.


:) :cool:

[bao]

I came in for a peek :eek: wow im still impressed those birds are huge, very nice too you can be proud of such a great build.
how do they compare to same size nitro flyers? and what are the differences apart from oil and grease? :D

[Hugeone]

Nice built:)

You'll love your 620SE, fly very smooth.
Here's mine:

[oldeflyer]

Hey guys, I added half of the pics up yesterday. LMK what you think. I got to the part where i finished putting the rotor head on the heli. :D



Later
Eric:D

Where are the pics? My browser doesn't show them with this post. Thanks

[RC Man]

I came in for a peek :eek: wow im still impressed those birds are huge, very nice too you can be proud of such a great build.
how do they compare to same size nitro flyers? and what are the differences apart from oil and grease? :D

The E620 has a lot more power than a Raptor 50. Smooth, clean, and powerful – you can’t for more than that. It also has a much more advanced control system.

:) :cool:

[helitaiwan963]

Nice built:)

You'll love your 620SE, fly very smooth.
Here's mine:

Hugeone:
Nice canopy:D Is it a Rappy 50 one airbrushed? I think i'm gonna go with a dayglo orange and dayglo yellow on the canopy to help with orientation, also, the K&B stiffie tail blades. The stock ones feel "bendy" sorta soft for a tail blade, especially on something this size. Awaiting electronics now:(

Here's what i have in mind for the electronics, LMK if i should change anything:

-Zpower (tonic-x) Z-50 780kv BL motor
-Castle Creations 85HV ESC (will this handle 15S A123 if i decide to go that route?)
-10s 5000mah (2x 5s batts series) or 12s 5000mah (2x 6s 5000mah in series) or A123 15S if i really have to
-3x JR ST126MG Servos for the cyclic
LINK: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JSP20071
-I have a LGT 6100T with the 6100G tail servo for the tail
-Park HV BEC ( anyone use a external bec for this? or a RX pack? if a RX pack, what voltage rx pack and what mah)



Thanks
Eric:D

[helitaiwan963]

Where are the pics? My browser doesn't show them with this post. Thanks
they are in the 1st 3 posts in the thread. All in attachments. I just put up the rest of the pictures. Let me know how they are and if you think they will be helpful?


Thanks
Eric :D

[oldeflyer]

they are in the 1st 3 posts in the thread. All in attachments. I just put up the rest of the pictures. Let me know how they are and if you think they will be helpful?


Thanks
Eric :D
Thnaks for the info and the pictures. I usually don't visit the beginning of a post after I have been there sveral times.
Good work on the build, and thanks for the comparision shots. Post on the flight performance, I'll be watching for it.
I have a choice between the TT e620 or waiting for the Swift 620se. Still haven't decided, but your model sure seems like a good choice.
Good luck!

[helitaiwan963]

Thnaks for the info and the pictures. I usually don't visit the beginning of a post after I have been there sveral times.
Good work on the build, and thanks for the comparision shots. Post on the flight performance, I'll be watching for it.
I have a choice between the TT e620 or waiting for the Swift 620se. Still haven't decided, but your model sure seems like a good choice.
Good luck!
:D it's gonna take awhile to get mine up as i'm saving up piece by piece for this thing. Maybe someone that has theirs up can post flight performance stuff? I have a swift 16 and the Swift 620 supposidly is the same as the swift but with a stretched tail and a driven tail instead of the undriven like the swift 16.

[helitaiwan963]

hey guys,

researching servos, and came accross this:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHKB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9tncoXiCFQ
I was watching that video and asked the person what setup he did, and he has the S3152's on the cyclic and that's the flying i will probably get in the far future. tower has it for 29.99 and they are digitals, just not MG's...what do you think?
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=2369 looking at those too...but much more expesnvie. IDK what servos:( LOL


Thanks
Eric:D

[Hugeone]

-Zpower (tonic-x) Z-50 780kv BL motor
-Castle Creations 85HV ESC (will this handle 15S A123 if i decide to go that route?)
-10s 5000mah (2x 5s batts series) or 12s 5000mah (2x 6s 5000mah in series) or A123 15S if i really have to

12S 5000mAh will make a heavy heli, but you'll be surprised how much the E620 can take. If you plan to run the 780kv Z-motor on 12S PM look at my page here. (http://www.truerc.net/canada/shop/experimental_e620.html)

PM me I'll explain you how to make a 120T gear for the E620.

The 85HV will handle 15S A123.

The canopy is from canomod.

-Hugo

[xeispen]

The E620 uses either 90 degree or 140 degree eCCPM. Both reduce the famous eCCPM cyclic/collective interaction at control extremes that plaque 120 eCCPM designs. The 90 degree has one servo connected to each side of the swashplate and one connected to the front. JR engineered the 140 setup for their World Championships competation helicopters and is the best choice if your transmitter supports that option.

I first tried the 90 setup and it flies about the same as the 120 design. For 90% of helicopter flyers the stock 90 degree setup will feel the same as 120 or 140.

The E620 also has a real nice push pull control system, which feels a lot more solid than some of those direct link designs. All eCCPM helicopters are very dependent on the quality of the servos. I am now using the new Futaba brushless servos (BLS251 and BLS451). Be aware that the BLS251 takes a gyro capable of generating a narrow pulse like the Spartan DS760, GY601, GY611, and some CSM gyros.


:) :cool:


A thanks man. I get it. Great Explanation. ;)

[WIIRED1]

I'm more into playing the song from the vid on guitar more than anything. LOL

[helitaiwan963]

I'm more into playing the song from the vid on guitar more than anything. LOL
ok?? that's random :confused: :confused:

[xeispen]

I'm more into playing the song from the vid on guitar more than anything. LOL


Huh!!! That's a good song. Sorry for hijacking your thread eric. :p

WIIRED1 you got the tab to that song? or the name?

[P-38J-Lightning]

Eric, for 12S 5000 consider 620mm blades.

Also, it the boom seems short to you, check that your belt is not loose. I noticed it needed to be much tighter then the mini's belts to stop it from slapping the boom.

Joel :D

[helitaiwan963]

Eric, for 12S 5000 consider 620mm blades.

Also, it the boom seems short to you, check that your belt is not loose. I noticed it needed to be much tighter then the mini's belts to stop it from slapping the boom.

Joel :D
hmm...mine is setup a little loose right now... I'll check that:D



Later
ERic

[helitaiwan963]

Hmm...my belt is slapping the boom a lot. I need to go ahead and fix that:D

Anyway, wheres everyone's pics of their E620's??
:D:D

Later
Eric

[Eddie M]

Mind is still under construction...


HighRes picture is here http://www3.sympatico.ca/ektmon/e550/DSCN1703.JPG

[helitaiwan963]

Mind is still under construction...


HighRes picture is here http://www3.sympatico.ca/ektmon/e550/DSCN1703.JPG
:D that's sweet. What upgrades do you have in the head?

[Eddie M]

I have the Quick UK swash plate, washout hub, Thunder Tiger flybar cage... I think that is it :)

[helitaiwan963]

Any more pics? I want to know more setups before i decided to buy what electronics to buy:D



Thanks
Eric

[helitaiwan963]

Also...

How good would 6S 5300mah 22C work on the E620?

Say with a Z50A-800?



Thanks
Eric

[Greybird]

I would guess that giant heli needs way bigger than 6S. Maybe 10 or 12S if you want them to last. Hmm. 2 6S 5000 packs, about 600 bucks. YIKES!. I thought you were going with 123's?

[helitaiwan963]

I'm gonna do lipos for the big bird. A123 is sorta heavy, but i might do A123 later as well. I just don't know yet. Sorta confused on what size Lipo pack i need.

[Andrew McGregor]

Depends on what motor you're using. Look back at mine; 5s 3700. But it's not exactly a 3D monster. Most e620 setups seem to be 10s.

[Greybird]

www.tppacks.com has some good info on batteries for this heli.

[helitaiwan963]

Depends on what motor you're using. Look back at mine; 5s 3700. But it's not exactly a 3D monster. Most e620 setups seem to be 10s.
your running 5S? More on your setup please!!!:D I was also thinking 6S 5300... cus i'm not doing 3D either. FFF for awhile and a few loops and rolls is about it.

My future setup:

Z50A-800 780kv motor
3x S3050 for cylic
CC 85HV Esc
Dimension Engineering HV BEC runing 6V with setupdown for tail servo
6100t gyro
6100g digital tail servo:D


Thanks!
Eric :D

[helitaiwan963]

Hey guys,

Whats everyone been up to? Getting ready for the flying season?

[Xipper]

Wow, its great to see others building eRaptors. I built a E550 last year as my first heli, I also have all of the upgrade parts to convert it to a E620 (other than main blades). Its definately been a fun learning experience, except the rainy season was so long that I am essentially starting over.

Mine is spec'd as follows:
TT E550
Z50A-800
DX-7, AR7000, cyclic are the Spektrum servos
Logictech 6100 gyro/tail
CC HV-85
6V UBEC

I have it geared for a low head speed right now, I don't want it too insanely responsive while I am learning it still ;)

I was running 10s a123, but due to a lapse of memory I baked 1 cell in each of 2 packs (too high rate of charge?). I have 4 packs assembled in 10s (though 2 are 9s) and 2 more new DeWalt packs to work with. I have 2 of TPPacks 12s kits to put together for a trial. I have a Mastec 2050 and a Xtrema for charging, the Xtrema is a test of patience at ~200W peak ;)

I have a brand new Kasama head that came with the 620 conversion (Raptor .30 to .50 parts) for when I'm not crashing it anymore. So far all of my crashes have been limited to breaking main blades a couple of times (stripping the main gear at the same time) and tail blades.

I love the sound of it when it spins up, I let someone else fly it at a local event to make sure it wasn't the heli that cause all of the crashes. ha ha, yeah, right...he stated it flew quite well.

I'm just glad to see more people building TT electric birds. I haven't seen any others in around here, the local shop almost thought I was crazy for not going with Align.

[Andrew McGregor]

your running 5S? More on your setup please!!!:D I was also thinking 6S 5300... cus i'm not doing 3D either. FFF for awhile and a few loops and rolls is about it.


Earilier in this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9114599&postcount=19

[helitaiwan963]

My setup:
It's finally all ordered! Should be here early next week.

-3x Futaba S3050 Digital BBMG servos
-6100t/6100g gyro/tail servo
-Tonic X(Zpower) Z50A-800 motor
-RiteHobby 100A High voltage ESC
-Align BEC with setupdown
-2s 2200mah lipo for an rx pack
-2x 5S 5350mah lipos in series for a 10S lipo pack
-600mm HDX FRP 3D blades


There mine:D

[Mashem Marv]

My setup:
It's finally all ordered! Should be here early next week.

-3x Futaba S3050 Digital BBMG servos
-6100t/6100g gyro/tail servo
-Tonic X(Zpower) Z50A-800 motor
-RiteHobby 100A High voltage ESC
-Align BEC with setupdown
-2s 2200mah lipo for an rx pack
-2x 5S 5350mah lipos in series for a 10S lipo pack
-600mm HDX FRP 3D blades


There mine:D
Hey 963, I would have went with 2 6s 3300 packs and saved some weight and used a Neu 1912 1.5y. I use 2 Max Amps4000 6s And after 7min I put back in 2650 ma. You will love the sound it makes. Marv

[helitaiwan963]

Lol, but i don't need that crazy power. HEHE. i'm barely doing FF right now. LOL

[Hugeone]

A neu 1912-1.5Y on 12S would be less powerfull than the z50-800 on 10S but more efficient.

-Hugo

[helitaiwan963]

A neu 1912-1.5Y on 12S would be less powerfull than the z50-800 on 10S but more efficient.

-Hugo
oh...i thought the 1912 motor needed frame mods?

[helitaiwan963]

Hey guys,

More updates on my E620SE

I installed the CC HV85 esc on there and programed it. Waiting on idler pullies cus my belt jumped it on the 1st flight and ya...

I also got the Mavrrick 1010 full metal head and the mavrrick tail case with the cf side tail case and TT metal slider setup. Also the Mavrrick aileron arms and the elevator arms:D

I'll get it build then update with pics:D


-Eric

[DavidB.]

1912 fits like a glove...a tight glove :)

[Happy|Harry]

Hey guys,

More updates on my E620SE

I installed the CC HV85 esc on there and programed it. Waiting on idler pullies cus my belt jumped it on the 1st flight and ya...

I also got the Mavrrick 1010 full metal head and the mavrrick tail case with the cf side tail case and TT metal slider setup. Also the Mavrrick aileron arms and the elevator arms:D

I'll get it build then update with pics:D


-Eric


eric could you post some pics of the HT head and tail when they come in, i already have a Quick UK head but i was torn between the QUK tail setup and the Mavrikk/HT one, there's not much difference in price but i think the HT version is more servicable than the QUK version as it has the replaceable side frames. seeing some close up pics should help me make up my mind:) also are those ail and elev arms for the e series rappy's? if so do you have a link

phil

[helitaiwan963]

eric could you post some pics of the HT head and tail when they come in, i already have a Quick UK head but i was torn between the QUK tail setup and the Mavrikk/HT one, there's not much difference in price but i think the HT version is more servicable than the QUK version as it has the replaceable side frames. seeing some close up pics should help me make up my mind:) also are those ail and elev arms for the e series rappy's? if so do you have a link

phil
I think i got them under the Raptor 30/50 parts. Do you think they will work? ANd sure, once i get the whole thing built, i'll make sure to do closeups

[Happy|Harry]

unfortunately the glow rappy's elevator and aileron arms are of a different design to the e-rappy's so i don't think they will work :(

phil

[helitaiwan963]

unfortunately the glow rappy's elevator and aileron arms are of a different design to the e-rappy's so i don't think they will work :(

phil
seriously? Darn, i knew they looked different, they have a differnt angle to the 2 arms. What about the elevator arms, do you know?

[helitaiwan963]

http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=804090

elevator arms

http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=804020

alieron arms

[Happy|Harry]

unfortunately neither of them will work on the e620, but heliproz should accept them back for a store credit?

phil

[helitaiwan963]

ya, they should. Need to give them a call.

Anyway, the head is built and the tail is installed. I just need to get the head links set and i'll post a ton of pics:D

[Vinger]

HT closeups, fitted to my Hurricane and E550.


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o273/Vinger01/HTPV1003-2.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o273/Vinger01/HT_Tail_4.jpg

[helitaiwan963]

hmm...i guess you got a different version? Mine was sorta a dark gunmetal color. and where did you get the tail rotor setup? I have metal slider setup but i couldn't find any grips.

Been busy, pics will be up tonight. got the head installed last night.

[henrik04]

hmm...i guess you got a different version? Mine was sorta a dark gunmetal color. and where did you get the tail rotor setup? I have metal slider setup but i couldn't find any grips.

Been busy, pics will be up tonight. got the head installed last night.

Well the grips can be found here: http://www.grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/66115

or from Kasama directly Code 012: http://www.kasama.com/index.php?option=catalog_result&c=37&lang=en&sub=3#product

Happy flying.

[Happy|Harry]

eric you can get the quick uk thrusted tailgrip setup from heliproz too>> http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=heli&Category_Code=0QUKR50
i caved in and got the quk tailcase and tailblade grips but the HT/Mavrikk stuff looks great value for money :cool:

phil

[henrik04]

Hmm For $10 difference, I rather select Kasama over quick UK. But everyone is entitled to his opinion. :)

Happy flying.

[Happy|Harry]

henrik i do prefer the kasama head because of the superior mounting system but i prefer the quick uk tailgrips and tailcase, that's why i purchased them :D but as you said we all have our own personal favourites :)

phil

[helitaiwan963]

Here you go guys:D My E620 up to date. Still waiting for that one pully to come in before i can fly.

[Happy|Harry]

thanks for the pics eric :cool: the head and tail look good, as does your install! i'll get some pics up of my e620 once my new tail parts arrive. after those tail parts arrive i'm just waiting for a motor to be released, and i'll have to pick up another spartan DS760, but that's all i need it to make it flight ready :)

phil

[helitaiwan963]

thanks for the pics eric :cool: the head and tail look good, as does your install! i'll get some pics up of my e620 once my new tail parts arrive. after those tail parts arrive i'm just waiting for a motor to be released, and i'll have to pick up another spartan DS760, but that's all i need it to make it flight ready :)

phil
nice!:D i can't wait to see, i'm in the process of painting my canopy right now:D

[henrik04]

Very nice :) Just curious to know where you got the head from?
A google search on "Mavrrick head" wasn't very successful.

Happy flying.

[helitaiwan963]

Very nice :) Just curious to know where you got the head from?
A google search on "Mavrrick head" wasn't very successful.

Happy flying.
I might've spelled it wrong, but i ordered it from Heliproz.com:D It's under the Raptor 30/50 parts.

[cfrank2005]

Very nice :) Just curious to know where you got the head from?
A google search on "Mavrrick head" wasn't very successful.

Happy flying.
Hi Henrik..here are the links for the Mavrikk metal head & tail
http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=804390
http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=805503

I'm ordering a set for myself as well. Will post pics when I have them installed.

[helitaiwan963]

Hi Henrik..here are the links for the Mavrikk metal head & tail
http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=804390
http://www.heliproz.com/prodinfo.asp?number=805503

I'm ordering a set for myself as well. Will post pics when I have them installed.
cool:D it's a great setup

[Happy|Harry]

well my QuickUK tail bling that i got to go with my QuickUK head for my e620 has arrived, as you can see it's the usual QuickUK first class finish :cool:

(click pics for full size images)
http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC-thumb.jpg (http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC.jpg) http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC1-thumb.jpg (http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC1.jpg)

i'll get some pics of the complete heli up soon :)
phil

[helitaiwan963]

well my QuickUK tail bling that i got to go with my QuickUK head for my e620 has arrived, as you can see it's the usual QuickUK first class finish :cool:

(click pics for full size images)
http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC-thumb.jpg (http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC.jpg) http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC1-thumb.jpg (http://freespace.virgin.net/catherine.smith1/Raptor-e620/QuickCNC1.jpg)

i'll get some pics of the complete heli up soon :)
phil
wow, no different collors? did you order from grand rc?

[Happy|Harry]

no i wanted blue, as my QuickUK head is a mixture of blue and sliver, my boom support/horizontal fin mount is blue, my quick tailpulley is blue etc etc, though QuickUK offer all their parts in silver, blue, red and purple so whatever colour takes your fancy :). i ordered them from heliproz here>> http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=heli&Category_Code=0QUKR50 :)

phil

[helitaiwan963]

no i wanted blue, as my QuickUK head is a mixture of blue and sliver, my boom support/horizontal fin mount is blue, my quick tailpulley is blue etc etc, though QuickUK offer all their parts in silver, blue, red and purple so whatever colour takes your fancy :). i ordered them from heliproz here>> http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=heli&Category_Code=0QUKR50 :)

phil
ahh, thanks:D I wanted silver to match my head and tail slider stuff

[helitaiwan963]

Hey guys,

I have a question for you guys now.

My dad keeps saying that the tail servo is way too far from the tail and tail will be very slow and sloppy with the tail servo where it is now and the long links. Is this true? Anyone flying it like this?

I really dont want to have to spend 40 bux to buy the Quick UK one from grand rc. Any alternitives? The mount isn't bad, but the pushrod.


Thanks
-Eric

[RC Man]

Hey guys,

I have a question for you guys now.

My dad keeps saying that the tail servo is way too far from the tail and tail will be very slow and sloppy with the tail servo where it is now and the long links. Is this true?
NO


In fact the E620 works perfectly completely stock. I started with no upgrades and it flies so well that I really don’t know why anyone would spend a lot of extra money on upgrades. Money is much better spent on more batteries.



The only upgrade I did make was install a Kasama head that has an improved design over stock or QUK that really spices up the response. But you don’t need that until you are into hard core 3D.



:) :cool:

[helitaiwan963]

ok:D good. Thanks man.

[henrik04]

no i wanted blue, as my QuickUK head is a mixture of blue and sliver, my boom support/horizontal fin mount is blue, my quick tailpulley is blue etc etc, though QuickUK offer all their parts in silver, blue, red and purple so whatever colour takes your fancy :). i ordered them from heliproz here>> http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=heli&Category_Code=0QUKR50 :)

phil

Very nice look. I wonder which sort of Alu grade they are using...
By the way it could be an idea to have metal pulley to diminishes the electrical resistance between the belt and the tail case. So assuming you ground the tail case and CF tail boom, static generation will be reduced. ;)

Happy flying.

[henrik04]

Hey guys,

I have a question for you guys now.

My dad keeps saying that the tail servo is way too far from the tail and tail will be very slow and sloppy with the tail servo where it is now and the long links. Is this true? Anyone flying it like this?

I really dont want to have to spend 40 bux to buy the Quick UK one from grand rc. Any alternitives? The mount isn't bad, but the pushrod.


Thanks
-Eric

I had the same bad feeling with the 'looong' push rod. I changed for tail boom servo support, CF tube and direct link to the Kasama tail control.
Just personal preference, not saying that the original setup doesn't work. :rolleyes:

Happy flying.

[helitaiwan963]

Man! I finally got this thing up and flying! It's so smooth! Gonna shoot some vids and pics over the weekend:d These new tenergy packs are working out great!

[helitaiwan963]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwT78-KUtiQ

[jamesppp]

Good job . Are you in Idle up or normal mode?Are you using a governor? You did more flying right there than I have done with my Swift. Im still just hovering. I need to just go for it.

How much are the 5S packs???

[helitaiwan963]

Good job . Are you in Idle up or normal mode?Are you using a governor? You did more flying right there than I have done with my Swift. Im still just hovering. I need to just go for it.

How much are the 5S packs???
I'm in normal mode running a flat throttle curve:D Go slow...better to go slow than doing something stupid and crashing.

they are about in the upper 200's each