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boosst
Nov 05, 2007, 11:46 PM
i am still learning with my phoenix sim. i can do fine with most helis at 75% simulation speed but when i bump it up to 100% i have a hard time controlling it. i assume that 100% is "real time" and that you can just slow it down to learn...? just curious as to what everyone else practices at or what "real time" sim speed is. thanks

boosst
Nov 06, 2007, 06:21 PM
anyone using phoenix? i would really just like to know the default setting that would be considered "real time".
thanks

Daedalus66
Nov 06, 2007, 07:16 PM
I have always flown at 100% and it feels about right. As a result of your question I tried 75% and 125%. As expected, the former felt too slow and the latter too fast.

I assume that slowing down might help one learn certain manoeuvers where otherwise things happen too fast to figure out.

boosst
Nov 06, 2007, 08:56 PM
thanks for your help. i haven't ever flown anything other than a coax and i can't tell with those. as long as 100% seams like the real life-like speed then that is what i will use. thanks again.

Daedalus66
Nov 06, 2007, 11:20 PM
You might slow things down a bit until you get the hang of it, then step up the speed gradually to 100%.

You've already found the handling of a regular helicopter to be very different from that of a coax. You'll also find considerable differences between models and among the variants of models.

For example, try the TRex 450 in the beginner variant, then in the 3D version. I think you'll find the former much more manageable! Then try the TRex 600 for a much smoother flying machine.

In effect, slowing down the speed is somewhat like reducing the sensitivity of the controls. There's a whole raft of adjustments you can make to get different feel (e.g., adding expo or increasing the hover stability setting to 100%). You can also tinker with paddle size, etc.

All these adjustments are interesting and instructive, but don't get obsessed with trying to make the sim behave exactly like the real model. It doesn't need to be identical to provide good training. In fact, I think it's helpful to learn on a variety of sim models. The main thing though is to set yourself specific tasks and keep practicing them, moving up to more demanding tasks as you master the basic ones. I spent a lot of time just doing circuits and landings on the sim last winter and it made a big difference to my flying of the real model when the weather improved.

Good luck.

bilboa
Nov 09, 2007, 12:59 AM
I normally fly at 100% speed. However I find the ability to slow down the sim very useful for learning new maneuvers. At 100% speed I might just keep crashing immediately before I even get a chance to get through the maneuver, but if I slow it down to 50% for just a few minutes, so that I can get through the whole maneuver a few times, then that's often enough to let me speed it back up.

I've never found it useful to speed up the sim beyond 100%.